why is the game so memory intensive

[BunnyAlex321]

not even ingame and it takes up ~750 mb of computer memory
thats more than microsoft chrome like damn
and then when i load ingame, my used memory shoots up to ~95%
its like 6k-7k mb of memory and im not even fully loaded in the game, i swear it wasnt that bad a few updates ago, last time i played the game

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by BunnyAlex321:

not even ingame and it takes up ~750 mb of computer memory
thats more than microsoft chrome like damn
and then when i load ingame, my used memory shoots up to ~95%

this game is a raycast-lit fully simulated city with a population of hundreds of civs, being tracked in real-time, and simulated fully every second of operation.

This game is not easy to run just because it has voxel graphics. Look at the recommended specs page.

Also, MOST games take more than "microsoft chrome", unless that's not Google Chrome, and it's something else entirely- games are hard to run.

Also, less than a gig of ram is really not a lot being used, anyway.

on top of the constantly fully simulated world, the game is also casting thousands of rays of light in every direction from light sources all around you, calculating screen-space reflections, applying physics to objects in range, etc... there's a lot going on in a game.

[Shurenai]

Your chrome uses less than 750mb?? That's like, nothing. That's like nothing for most games nowadays even- That's like nothing for many games 10 years ago even.

My chrome right now is at 2.7gb mem, my discord at 1.1gb(though i think it's memory leaking)... Many of my games run at 8+gb, minecraft can take 16gb+ depending on what you're doing. The typical computer nowadays has 16-32gb memory, even laptops.

[BunnyAlex321]

Originally posted by Isabelle:

Originally posted by BunnyAlex321:

not even ingame and it takes up ~750 mb of computer memory
thats more than microsoft chrome like damn
and then when i load ingame, my used memory shoots up to ~95%

this game is a raycast-lit fully simulated city with a population of hundreds of civs, being tracked in real-time, and simulated fully every second of operation.

This game is not easy to run just because it has voxel graphics. Look at the recommended specs page.

Also, MOST games take more than "microsoft chrome", unless that's not Google Chrome, and it's something else entirely- games are hard to run.

Also, less than a gig of ram is really not a lot being used, anyway.

i mean microsoft edge god im stupid

im still surprised how bad it was when i checked the memory in task manager though, as i said earlier it wasn't that memory intensive last time i played, some updates and patches ago where it was running perfectly fine for me and now i can barely play the game

and all other games ive played i have had basically 0 issues with memory at all

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by BunnyAlex321:

Originally posted by Isabelle:

this game is a raycast-lit fully simulated city with a population of hundreds of civs, being tracked in real-time, and simulated fully every second of operation.

This game is not easy to run just because it has voxel graphics. Look at the recommended specs page.

Also, MOST games take more than "microsoft chrome", unless that's not Google Chrome, and it's something else entirely- games are hard to run.

Also, less than a gig of ram is really not a lot being used, anyway.

i mean microsoft edge god im stupid

im still surprised how bad it was when i checked the memory in task manager though, as i said earlier it wasn't that memory intensive last time i played, some updates and patches ago where it was running perfectly fine for me and now i can barely play the game

and all other games ive played i have had basically 0 issues with memory at all

"memory" in terms of computing can mean a lot of different things.

if you're talking about RAM, that's far from the most utilized component when running the game. RAM is more for texture streaming and UI and stuff- not sure how this particular unity framework uses RAM, but it's certainly not going to be your bottleneck on a normal computer.

The amount of actively used RAM changes depending on what you're doing in game, how big the city is, the objects around you, stuff like that.

either way though, using less than a gig is far from an issue, unless you have a potato laptop with 4gb of RAM

if you can barely play the game it's entirely possible there's something else happening but it definitely wont be a RAM issue

there was a memory leak a while ago. switch to experimental mode for this game if you want the fix.

[TasteDasRainbow]

There's a memory leak issue with the public build; the experimental build claims to have this fixed, and is downloadable via the steam beta feature for the game.

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by TasteDasRainbow:

There's a memory leak issue with the public build; the experimental build claims to have this fixed, and is downloadable via the steam beta feature for the game.

experimental definitely fixed it

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Most games will need more than 1gb of RAM, especially ones like this.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Isabelle:

"memory" in terms of computing can mean a lot of different things.

no. it means RAM. disk space is "storage." it might be taken to mean a CPU's caches, but those are only ever referred to as caches.

source: A+ and N+ certified for damn near 20 years.

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

Originally posted by Isabelle:

"memory" in terms of computing can mean a lot of different things.

no. it means RAM. disk space is "storage." it might be taken to mean a CPU's caches, but those are only ever referred to as caches.

source: A+ and N+ certified for damn near 20 years.

what? in what dimnension is OP talking about this game taking up disk space?

you realize ram quite literally stands for random access memory? It's memory. There's no debate about this. It also just happens to not be literally the only thing in a computer that could be called "memory".

why do you keep replying to my comments trying to "correct" the already completely fine things I have said, only to be wrong

also i never said anything about storage what????

edit: actually, now im trying to figure out what you even think I got wrong in the first place. Are you under the impression that nothing in a computer could ever reasonably be called "memory" that isn't RAM?

Newsflash- the "memory" that your graphics card uses- yknow, VRAM- is similarly called memory for a reason. I don't care what letter cerifications you have, that doesn't stop you from making annoying comments trying to correct people's semantics. You aren't even right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_random-access_memory

this took me four seconds to find

(In computing, memory is a device or system that is used to store information for immediate use in a computer or related computer hardware and digital electronic devices. The term memory is often synonymous with the term primary storage or main memory.)

It's almost like there are several components in a computer that qualify as "memory", and it's perfectly acceptable to refer to them as such in context.

[J-&Dre]

Just wanted to point out that RAM and storage in itself is different things, but on a computer hard pressed for memory, Windows will start using storage space for RAM, also called a page file (virtual memory/memory paging) writing things to the storage instead of the RAM. This will considerably slow down the process so it is something you should avoid.

Only solution is to either to install more RAM or a really fast SSD, in which both probably require an upgrade of hardware anyway.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Isabelle:

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

no. it means RAM. disk space is "storage." it might be taken to mean a CPU's caches, but those are only ever referred to as caches.

source: A+ and N+ certified for damn near 20 years.

what? in what dimnension is OP talking about this game taking up disk space?

you realize ram quite literally stands for random access memory? It's memory. There's no debate about this. It also just happens to not be literally the only thing in a computer that could be called "memory".

why do you keep replying to my comments trying to "correct" the already completely fine things I have said, only to be wrong

also i never said anything about storage what????

edit: actually, now im trying to figure out what you even think I got wrong in the first place. Are you under the impression that nothing in a computer could ever reasonably be called "memory" that isn't RAM?

Newsflash- the "memory" that your graphics card uses- yknow, VRAM- is similarly called memory for a reason. I don't care what letter cerifications you have, that doesn't stop you from making annoying comments trying to correct people's semantics. You aren't even right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_random-access_memory

this took me four seconds to find

(In computing, memory is a device or system that is used to store information for immediate use in a computer or related computer hardware and digital electronic devices. The term memory is often synonymous with the term primary storage or main memory.)

It's almost like there are several components in a computer that qualify as "memory", and it's perfectly acceptable to refer to them as such in context.

vRAM is RAM. it's in the name, try again. there is nothing other than some flavor of RAM that is generally called memory, in a computer.

you also demonstrate why no one should cite a wiki itself. again, no one calls storage "memory." well, no one but clueless laymen, but that's proving my point.

my point is no, "memory" in computers does not mean "many different things." it means RAM. full stop. it does not mean your storage disks. it really doesent even mean your vRAM.

when your computer throws an "out of memory" error, it's because you ran out of available RAM, not vRAM, not disk storage, not cache. RAM.