Can we have a gun now?

[Vitowns]

The only reason i refunded this game.. thanks in advance

[Vitowns]

Som1 said theres a mod to have a gun so thats awesome.. I wonder if it works well

[Girthquake]

Origineel geplaatst door Kyle:

Origineel geplaatst door Girthquake:

Is this a joke? Have you seen the sequel Aliens? Put yourself in Ripley's shoes during the first movie. Do you think she would have said "no" to a gun? Idiot.

I think their point was that there's no gun because it increases the suspense and threat to the character, not that the fictional character would have said no to a gun.

The dev did a blog post saying something similar, there are other weapons, but guns don't match the devs vision and thus they don't want to add them. (This is the actual reason)

I do think that combat needs to be reworked overall though to achieve that though.

I think that's terrible reasoning from a terrible vision. It's one thing if the setting has no firearms at all, but when many crimes are done USING these weapons bought from the ARMS DEALER in town it's a complete disconnect. Actual braindead developer take.

[FireEqual]

Origineel geplaatst door Kyle:

The dev did a blog post saying something similar, there are other weapons, but guns don't match the devs vision and thus they don't want to add them. (This is the actual reason)

Link?
Because the only comment on the matter I know of is this.
The dev hasn't acknowledged any feedback on the matter afterwards. And if "solving cases" was their "goal" - it certainly faced barely any improvement, in the end we get neither guns nor engaging cases.

[Kyle]

Origineel geplaatst door FireEqual:

Origineel geplaatst door Kyle:

The dev did a blog post saying something similar, there are other weapons, but guns don't match the devs vision and thus they don't want to add them. (This is the actual reason)

Link?
Because the only comment on the matter I know of is this.
The dev hasn't acknowledged any feedback on the matter afterwards. And if "solving cases" was their "goal" - it certainly faced barely any improvement, in the end we get neither guns nor engaging cases.

https://colepowered.com/2022/10/

i edited the previous post as well

if you search through the discord with control f you can also find a few more gun comments

[Girthquake]

Origineel geplaatst door FireEqual:

Origineel geplaatst door Kyle:

The dev did a blog post saying something similar, there are other weapons, but guns don't match the devs vision and thus they don't want to add them. (This is the actual reason)

Link?
Because the only comment on the matter I know of is this.
The dev hasn't acknowledged any feedback on the matter afterwards. And if "solving cases" was their "goal" - it certainly faced barely any improvement, in the end we get neither guns nor engaging cases.

Lmfao. The reasoning given is more based on spaghetti code than any sort of vision. What a joke.

Origineel geplaatst door Kyle:

https://colepowered.com/2022/10/

i edited the previous post as well

Still flimsy reasoning. If Resident Evil could manage it, an actual horror game where you are armed, I don't see why the developers of Shadows of a Doubt couldn't. Laziness is the reason, justification for terrible coding that will never be fixed.

[nicks husband coach]

theory: the player is a huge batman fan thats why they wont use lethal weapons cuz they think they are batman
evidence: gameplay

[FireEqual]

Origineel geplaatst door Kyle:

https://colepowered.com/2022/10/

i edited the previous post as well

Much appreciated.
Didn't know the Dev mentioned anything about this besides the reply I've linked.
Still disagree with him, but at least now I see more of his reasoning.

[Girthquake]

Origineel geplaatst door nicks husband coach:

theory: the player is a huge batman fan thats why they wont use lethal weapons cuz they think they are batman
evidence: gameplay

A batman mod would be pretty cool, I want a grappling hook.

[Manwith Noname]

Origineel geplaatst door Zothen:

Did you ever wonder why Ripley had no gun in Alien even when its a Sci-Fi setting?
Im asking for a friend. Let me when you find the answer.

They are a bunch of "truckers" (except one plant). Not exactly jobs befitting the need for firearms.

[V.V.]

Origineel geplaatst door Girthquake:

The only detective to not have a gun handy is Batman, and he's the exception that makes the rule. Even Sherlock Holmes and Watson needed a gun to arrest suspects sometimes. If I murdered someone and some unarmed rando came up to me and said he suspected me and tries to cuff me, I'm killing him too.

Hmm trying to remember if Sherlock had any guns in the games I have played.... been a while, but I dont recall ever having to use a gun. Then again I haven't bought any of the newer Sherlock games so maybe those have guns.

[Girthquake]

Origineel geplaatst door V.V.:

Origineel geplaatst door Girthquake:

The only detective to not have a gun handy is Batman, and he's the exception that makes the rule. Even Sherlock Holmes and Watson needed a gun to arrest suspects sometimes. If I murdered someone and some unarmed rando came up to me and said he suspected me and tries to cuff me, I'm killing him too.

Hmm trying to remember if Sherlock had any guns in the games I have played.... been a while, but I dont recall ever having to use a gun. Then again I haven't bought any of the newer Sherlock games so maybe those have guns.

Sherlock Holmes and Watson in the novels and the movies occasionally utilizes a gun, albeit only as a last resort, as they recognize the ugliness that comes with a gun. It's pretty clear that even when they don't use it, that Watson carries one.

[Arby]

Origineel geplaatst door Girthquake:

Origineel geplaatst door Zothen:

Did you ever wonder why Ripley had no gun in Alien even when its a Sci-Fi setting?
Im asking for a friend. Let me when you find the answer.

Is this a joke? Have you seen the sequel Aliens? Put yourself in Ripley's shoes during the first movie. Do you think she would have said "no" to a gun? Idiot.

Ripley didn't have a gun because she was a civilian on a spaceship. Trusting random people with weapons that can easily depressurize your entire spacecraft and possibly cause structural failure depending on the severity of the depressurization, is not particularly smart. Now, the crew was given a handful of laser pistols by Dallas, since that would merely heat a wall up, not blow it apart. So, yeah, Alien didn't have guns for a very good reason.

Then again, they didn't seem to care about that in the sequel, so... touche.

[Manwith Noname]

Origineel geplaatst door Arby:

Then again, they didn't seem to care about that in the sequel, so... touche.

The people with guns in the sequel were marines, until eventually they armed Riply for her own safety against a serious threat. The original Alien was a bunch of haulers. Also, the gunfights in the sequel took place on a terraformed atmospheric planet, not inside a spaceship.

[Girthquake]

You sound exactly like the TSA agents who kicked me off the plane. I've demonstrated good trigger discipline but apparently pointing it around and practicing reloading drills before take off is some sort of crime. The air marshall on board looked pretty embarrassed when I pointed out his limp-wristing while he was arresting me.

[Manwith Noname]

They are Girthquake.