Detective Badge Feature?

[Skyguard]

Anyone knows if there's any plans to add some item that allows you to stop hiding from Enforcers on the crime scene? I feel really silly every time I gotta do that since I am pretty much outing myself as a criminal every time I am submitting a finished case. Would also be nice if I could call them for help, to lockdown an area for example so that suspects can't walk away.

[go fast, eat ass]

Not sure about a badge, but there is a mod that allows you to buy a "Private Eye" implant. All it does is basically allows you to get into the crime scene without any troubles, but penalises you for doing crime if other people see you.

[Skyguard]

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Not sure about a badge, but there is a mod that allows you to buy a "Private Eye" implant. All it does is basically allows you to get into the crime scene without any troubles, but penalises you for doing crime if other people see you.

This should be a feature that comes with the game. This whole Enforcer situation looks ridiculous. Enforcers aren't supposed to be your main enemies yet they are, even more so than actual criminals.

[go fast, eat ass]

Originally posted by Skyguard:

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Not sure about a badge, but there is a mod that allows you to buy a "Private Eye" implant. All it does is basically allows you to get into the crime scene without any troubles, but penalises you for doing crime if other people see you.

This should be a feature that comes with the game. This whole Enforcer situation looks ridiculous. Enforcers aren't supposed to be your main enemies yet they are, even more so than actual criminals.

But should it? I don`t recall police detective or police in general being very nice and open with private detectives. Of course, I might be mistaken. The game is not that hard anyway, so this creates a bit of difficulty that is good imo.

[Skyguard]

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Originally posted by Skyguard:

This should be a feature that comes with the game. This whole Enforcer situation looks ridiculous. Enforcers aren't supposed to be your main enemies yet they are, even more so than actual criminals.

But should it? I don`t recall police detective or police in general being very nice and open with private detectives. Of course, I might be mistaken. The game is not that hard anyway, so this creates a bit of difficulty that is good imo.

It's not the difficulty, it's the dissonance. The police in the game is privatized and outright doesn't have a detective bureau. They NEED your help. They will try to clap you when they see you investigating but they will happily take a solved case that they tried to prevent you from solving just a day ago. The game is largely about role playing. You actually need to eat, drink and sleep. The stuff that takes you out of the experience outright harms the game.

[go fast, eat ass]

Originally posted by Skyguard:

It's not the difficulty, it's the dissonance. The police in the game is privatized and outright doesn't have a detective bureau. They NEED your help. They will try to clap you when they see you investigating but they will happily take a solved case that they tried to prevent you from solving just a day ago. The game is largely about role playing. You actually need to eat, drink and sleep. The stuff that takes you out of the experience outright harms the game.

The only reason why they "need" your help is because the player is the main character. And there aren`t any AI detectives in game currently. But that doesnt mean that the police has to kiss you on your forehead and jerk you off each time you visit the crime scene to solve another crime. As I`ve said, there is a mod for this. Install it if you want.

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by Skyguard:

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Not sure about a badge, but there is a mod that allows you to buy a "Private Eye" implant. All it does is basically allows you to get into the crime scene without any troubles, but penalises you for doing crime if other people see you.

This should be a feature that comes with the game. This whole Enforcer situation looks ridiculous. Enforcers aren't supposed to be your main enemies yet they are, even more so than actual criminals.

You are not a cop. Enforcers are not cops. I can't explain this over and over and over in every single thread that this is brought up in, which it is brought up often- You're in a dystopian hell future where the only "police" force is a group of corrupt weirdos with guns that get paid exclusively to assist Starch Kola corporation and nobody else. Your life is not in their interest, or even a consideration in their mind at all.

Not only that, this is a gameplay restriction for the purposes of making investigating crime scenes more challenging. If you could just walk in there would be literally no challenge.

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by Skyguard:

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

But should it? I don`t recall police detective or police in general being very nice and open with private detectives. Of course, I might be mistaken. The game is not that hard anyway, so this creates a bit of difficulty that is good imo.

It's not the difficulty, it's the dissonance. The police in the game is privatized and outright doesn't have a detective bureau. They NEED your help. They will try to clap you when they see you investigating but they will happily take a solved case that they tried to prevent you from solving just a day ago. The game is largely about role playing. You actually need to eat, drink and sleep. The stuff that takes you out of the experience outright harms the game.

What makes you think they "need" any help from anybody? The simple fact that you can pick up a case form and submit it does not mean the enforcers are ♥♥♥♥ out of luck and incapable of doing anything if not for the player character.

[Skyguard]

Originally posted by Isabelle:

Originally posted by Skyguard:

This should be a feature that comes with the game. This whole Enforcer situation looks ridiculous. Enforcers aren't supposed to be your main enemies yet they are, even more so than actual criminals.

You are not a cop. Enforcers are not cops. I can't explain this over and over and over in every single thread that this is brought up in, which it is brought up often- You're in a dystopian hell future where the only "police" force is a group of corrupt weirdos with guns that get paid exclusively to assist Starch Kola corporation and nobody else. Your life is not in their interest, or even a consideration in their mind at all.

Not only that, this is a gameplay restriction for the purposes of making investigating crime scenes more challenging. If you could just walk in there would be literally no challenge.

Mr. Brainman got it all figured out. How dare I question the wisdom of the game designer.

[Isabelle]

Originally posted by Skyguard:

Originally posted by Isabelle:

You are not a cop. Enforcers are not cops. I can't explain this over and over and over in every single thread that this is brought up in, which it is brought up often- You're in a dystopian hell future where the only "police" force is a group of corrupt weirdos with guns that get paid exclusively to assist Starch Kola corporation and nobody else. Your life is not in their interest, or even a consideration in their mind at all.

Not only that, this is a gameplay restriction for the purposes of making investigating crime scenes more challenging. If you could just walk in there would be literally no challenge.

Mr. Brainman got it all figured out. How dare I question the wisdom of the game designer.

You could spend time thinking about the things I've said and actually make a reply or you could insult me and refuse to respond in any way.

I gave you legitimate responses. You insulted me in return. I won't engage further. Cringe behavior

Don't make forum posts then get pissy with people who simply respond to said post

[Skyguard]

Originally posted by Isabelle:

Originally posted by Skyguard:

Mr. Brainman got it all figured out. How dare I question the wisdom of the game designer.

You could spend time thinking about the things I've said and actually make a reply or you could insult me and refuse to respond in any way.

I gave you legitimate responses. You insulted me in return. I won't engage further. Cringe behavior

Don't make forum posts then get pissy with people who simply respond to said post

Dude. You deny that Enforcers are interested in doing their job. I don't think that deserves a response. But fine. Let's play ball.
No private security force would ever impede an investigation. It is in their direct interest to aid it because their reputation is on the line. They have already failed to prevent the crime and property damage so they might as well at least ensure that whoever did it gets busted. No one is going to hire them to protect their privately owned skyscrapers if they are not going to at least try.

Besides. I don't think just closing the door when you are entering the room is going to make your investigation any harder. Just more annoying.

[JackhatTripper]

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Not sure about a badge, but there is a mod that allows you to buy a "Private Eye" implant. All it does is basically allows you to get into the crime scene without any troubles, but penalises you for doing crime if other people see you.

What is the name of the Mod. I search it everywhere :D

[Warzone]

The enforcers are payed regardless of actually succeeding in their jobs.
The enforcers are also co-opted by the Kola Industry.
The Kola industry, includes in all of their machines, an implant that gives you money, but will require you more or less, to drink Kola.

Including introducing Adverse effects into the person who installed it.

The case that starts you in an apartment, the tutorial case if you will, involves you, a former detective, being 'let go' by this new enforcer team.

What type of police force drops their detectives? I mean sure, we as players have shown a blatant disregard for the law on numerous occasions. But the starting blurb is 'Justice only exists in the shadows'.


Heck, the enforcers- If they don't see you go past the tape, won't really check most of the time? You slip past them by walking casually in most of the time. And they don't really care.
If you don't do anything, they aren't going to solve the case. Because they aren't punished nor incentivized to do so.

They are, literally, posting 'help wanted' in bars to go run down 'armed and dangerous suspects'. With varying degrees of information. For people to go and do *their* job for them.

[Skyguard]

Originally posted by Warzone:

The enforcers are payed regardless of actually succeeding in their jobs.
The enforcers are also co-opted by the Kola Industry.
The Kola industry, includes in all of their machines, an implant that gives you money, but will require you more or less, to drink Kola.

Including introducing Adverse effects into the person who installed it.

The case that starts you in an apartment, the tutorial case if you will, involves you, a former detective, being 'let go' by this new enforcer team.

What type of police force drops their detectives? I mean sure, we as players have shown a blatant disregard for the law on numerous occasions. But the starting blurb is 'Justice only exists in the shadows'.


Heck, the enforcers- If they don't see you go past the tape, won't really check most of the time? You slip past them by walking casually in most of the time. And they don't really care.
If you don't do anything, they aren't going to solve the case. Because they aren't punished nor incentivized to do so.

They are, literally, posting 'help wanted' in bars to go run down 'armed and dangerous suspects'. With varying degrees of information. For people to go and do *their* job for them.

Yeah and if doing that job happens to include entering someone else's apartment, or arrest someone who isn't in a secluded place, they'll give you a beating. Man, this such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I just can't.

[Warzone]

I mean, the minute you throw hands with anyone in the city in a wide open, populated space, your going to get gunned down. Or if you commit a crime that someone sees, and they tell their buddies, they'll also vigilante justice style, gun you down.

There's literally obvious criminal activity, including having passwords sprayed on walls for black markets and other operations.

The Kola Drug company doesn't give a damn about justice. They're there to look like they care and, let it slide off.

But god help you if you try to vandalize a kola machine, they'd probably state-execute you.

[Skyguard]

Originally posted by Warzone:

I mean, the minute you throw hands with anyone in the city in a wide open, populated space, your going to get gunned down. Or if you commit a crime that someone sees, and they tell their buddies, they'll also vigilante justice style, gun you down.

There's literally obvious criminal activity, including having passwords sprayed on walls for black markets and other operations.

The Kola Drug company doesn't give a damn about justice. They're there to look like they care and, let it slide off.

But god help you if you try to vandalize a kola machine, they'd probably state-execute you.

Yeah, if only. They will never find me if the kola machine happens to be in an office because the detective that took the case was busted when they tried to get to the crime scene.