Shadows of Doubt

Shadows of Doubt

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VodkaMilk May 3, 2023 @ 9:20am
Help me solve my case
I have a case on which I've been working for a few days, but I'm at a dead end.
All I know is that the victim was killed by a small gun wound, even though the blood stains doesn't seem to be from a gunshot. I have leads on a footprint and 2 fingerprints. But I've checked through all employee files from the company of the victim and the company of the victim's girlfriend. No match.
So where else should I try to search for fingerprints ? are there registers where I could find the names of people who bought weapons ? The pawn shop only show melee weapons which doesn't match the murder weapon.
Or is there something else I'm missing ?

Edit : Solved
Originally posted by VodkaMilk:
So I found the guy. Gunstore's sales ledger didn't help so I went through all the contacts in the victim's address book, one of them had a matching fingerprint. Turn out it was one of his employees, I did a lousy job searching for clues in the company the first time. :(
Couldn't find the weapon though, but I found a box of 8mm ammo on the killer which was sufficient to be used as the murder weapon.
Last edited by VodkaMilk; May 3, 2023 @ 11:55am
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Zalugar May 3, 2023 @ 9:26am 
You can check the sales ledgers at the Weapons Dealer and Black Market Trader. Both sell small firearms.
They're located in basements somewhere and both require different passwords you can find scrawled on walls here and there, portraying a gun and burglar respectively. Or you can skip the password stuff and just force your way in as per usual.
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SadeShadow18 May 3, 2023 @ 9:26am 
Not sure, Did you check their emails and address book?
Hunterwolf May 3, 2023 @ 9:29am 
I'd say try to get as much profiles with fingerprints as you can,
Try to find a hidden gun store, since they have sales books.
What evidence do you have that links the scene to the potential murderer ? You need to investigate everything you have, even if it's not much, it could give you a lead.
Did you check trash, mailboxes, past phone calls at the murder scene ?
VodkaMilk May 3, 2023 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Zalugar:
You can check the sales ledgers at the Weapons Dealer and Black Market Trader. Both sell small firearms.
They're located in basements somewhere and both require different passwords you can find scrawled on walls here and there, portraying a gun and burglar respectively. Or you can skip the password stuff and just force your way in as per usual.

Ah thanks ! I didn't check for underground map, just saw a gun dealer. I will go on this lead.



Originally posted by SadeShadow18:
Not sure, Did you check their emails and address book?

Yes but there were nothing in the emails. I checked the adress book but there were a lot of names. Eventually I will search further inside if i'm once again in a dead end. Thank you !
VodkaMilk May 3, 2023 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Hunterwolf:
I'd say try to get as much profiles with fingerprints as you can,
Try to find a hidden gun store, since they have sales books.
What evidence do you have that links the scene to the potential murderer ? You need to investigate everything you have, even if it's not much, it could give you a lead.
Did you check trash, mailboxes, past phone calls at the murder scene ?

Not much evidence, only the fingerprints and footprints. two bullet cases on the murder scene which could confirm the gunshot kill.
And yes I checked trash (empty), mailbox(empty) and past phone calls (nothing)
Evolacoaster May 3, 2023 @ 9:47am 
Don't forget pawn shops too. I've managed to track a couple of people down who bought the murder weapon from a pawn shop.
Nizaha May 3, 2023 @ 9:55am 
Don't forget to check all of their contacts in their address book.
Sunshine May 3, 2023 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by VodkaMilk:
So where else should I try to search for fingerprints ?
The building's management office ("camera room").
It contains files of all tenants and the killer is often a tenant in the same building... unfortunately.
Dr.RawHerring May 3, 2023 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Sheyra:
Don't forget to check all of their contacts in their address book.
I don't believe address books actually link to killers other than superficially due to proximity. The game seems to choose killers either based on employees at the victims work (if a business card was left at the scene) or picked entirely randomly but within general proximity of the victim (usually within the same building).

Other things to try are the security cameras if its not too late. Also for some types of killings the killer will leave graffiti with the first letter of their name as a clue, but the game is very buggy about graffiti, you can check if this was left at the scene by reading a newspaper about the crime.
Sunshine May 3, 2023 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by RawHerring:
Originally posted by Sheyra:
Don't forget to check all of their contacts in their address book.
I don't believe address books actually link to killers other than superficially due to proximity. The game seems to choose killers either based on employees at the victims work (if a business card was left at the scene) or picked entirely randomly but within general proximity of the victim (usually within the same building).
Yes, but that person can still be a contact in the address book.
One of my cases was a lipstick killer guy with his first letter being "D". Checked the victims contacts, got a D guy and it was indeed him. He was also a coworker, so your general idea checks out - but it does not rule out them being part of the contacts.
Dr.RawHerring May 3, 2023 @ 10:15am 
Yea, its just a convenient resource for checking some of the people they are in proximity with - if you get a matching initial in the address books it sure saves a trip to the management office or 5 minutes sifting through the phone book
Cooperal May 3, 2023 @ 10:25am 
Another possibility could be that the killer is a nearby resident of another apartment. Check for prints on the doors immediately surrounding the victims apartment, at least one or two floors up and down. Mailboxes on the ground floor are also a fast way of matching a fingerprint to a residency quickly but it isn't a 100% comprehensive catalogue of every print of every person living there.

It feels a bit cheap but I've brute forced a couple of cases this way after hours of following every path that actually seemed logical.
Nizaha May 3, 2023 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by RawHerring:
Originally posted by Sheyra:
Don't forget to check all of their contacts in their address book.
I don't believe address books actually link to killers other than superficially due to proximity. The game seems to choose killers either based on employees at the victims work (if a business card was left at the scene) or picked entirely randomly but within general proximity of the victim (usually within the same building).

Other things to try are the security cameras if its not too late. Also for some types of killings the killer will leave graffiti with the first letter of their name as a clue, but the game is very buggy about graffiti, you can check if this was left at the scene by reading a newspaper about the crime.
If proximity is what you care about, then yeah, you can just go door to door and check fingerprints left on the doors as well. I prefer checking contacts first via the city database as it builds up your fingerprint knowledge for future cases.
VodkaMilk May 3, 2023 @ 11:54am 
So I found the guy. Gunstore's sales ledger didn't help so I went through all the contacts in the victim's address book, one of them had a matching fingerprint. Turn out it was one of his employees, I did a lousy job searching for clues in the company the first time. :(
Couldn't find the weapon though, but I found a box of 8mm ammo on the killer which was sufficient to be used as the murder weapon.
Zalugar May 3, 2023 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by VodkaMilk:
So I found the guy. Gunstore's sales ledger didn't help
Did you check both stores? I've yet to have a gun killer who didn't purchase a gun from 1 of the 2 stores at some point. I even stole one of their guns, let them kill again, and they just buy another of the same model from the same guy.
Last edited by Zalugar; May 3, 2023 @ 12:11pm
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