Shadows of Doubt

Shadows of Doubt

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This game heats my RTX 3080ti a lot
Fun game, but horrible performance issues, even on low graphics.

For the record, these are my pc specs:
RTX 3080ti
Intel i7 8700 3.20GHz
16 GB RAM
SSD Disc with 500 GB
2K Monitor (2560x1080)

My main problem is the temperature of my GPU. Usually when I play the general temperature ranges from 40Cº to 50Cº. But everytime I step ourside it begans to rise up a lot until it reaches 65Cº and worse, making my fans spin like crazy. I've tried very heavy games, like Red Dead Redemption 2, Battlefield 2042 on high settings and Crysis and I've never encountered heat problems with my GPU.

Is it maybe cause of the amount of objects in the streets? The reflections? Does this game has any rtx option enabled that I do not know about?

I love this game, and I want to see how far it goes, please I need an answer for this.

P.D: I know we are talking about a EA game, the product that we have today is going to be very different to the one we'll have later, I just want to talk about this and ask you all if you have encountered the same problem. Btw, I know 65C⁰ isn't that much, but it's still a pretty weird temp for this "kind" of game, as I said, I rarely see my GPU working at +65C⁰
Last edited by Fuwa The Iberian Lynx; May 3, 2023 @ 6:16am
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LT Cuddles May 2, 2023 @ 6:07pm 
Well, 65C isn't a high OR dangerous temperature for one thing when talking about GPU's.
As for your performance, is your monitor 60hz model? is it a higher hz model?
It sounds like you might be running into a situation where you're actually stressing your gpu for one of the first times in it's life to close to 100% utilization due to the early access and un-optimized nature of the game.
Last edited by LT Cuddles; May 2, 2023 @ 6:07pm
EliteForceQc May 2, 2023 @ 6:09pm 
Lower your setting, i have NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960. And im ok with temp.

I can burn my card just by putting my resolution and setting at max.
Sneep Snorp May 2, 2023 @ 6:13pm 
Yeah ill admit the game is unoptimized at this state, just lower the settings youll be completely fine, i got a 4090 and still get frame dips and high temps sometimes, the game will probably get better optimization at some point, the devs have been on top of things
Originally posted by Sneep Snorp:
Yeah ill admit the game is unoptimized at this state, just lower the settings youll be completely fine, i got a 4090 and still get frame dips and high temps sometimes, the game will probably get better optimization at some point, the devs have been on top of things
Yeah, I've seen that lately, glad they are taking care of their game
Originally posted by LT Cuddles:
Well, 65C isn't a high OR dangerous temperature for one thing when talking about GPU's.
As for your performance, is your monitor 60hz model? is it a higher hz model?
It sounds like you might be running into a situation where you're actually stressing your gpu for one of the first times in it's life to close to 100% utilization due to the early access and un-optimized nature of the game.
Hello there, thanks for the comment.

I'm using a 144hz monitor, but I'm running the game at 60fps, I dunno what to tell you :/

Any tips?
HackerNoobCamper May 2, 2023 @ 8:53pm 
Last night I could not connect to EA servers for some reason. I got a heat warning and was at 190 degrees in the menu. 13900k and 4090. That is the hottest I have ever seen it. It looks and plays so much better than on the series x but has too many issues on PC.
Originally posted by HackerNoobCamper:
Last night I could not connect to EA servers for some reason. I got a heat warning and was at 190 degrees in the menu. 13900k and 4090. That is the hottest I have ever seen it. It looks and plays so much better than on the series x but has too many issues on PC.
80C⁰?????!!!! How did that happened?
weiss May 2, 2023 @ 9:49pm 
60~65°C is normal work temp for most gpus, you can check your optimal work temp for your gpu with gpu-z, a well known tool, it shows you aswell at which temps it gets dangerous for your gpu. the only thing which you dont want is anything at 80°C+ in your rig/tower. while it is ok when it is only for short, can it cause over an extended time issues. cause stuff in your rig gets heat saturated over time. having anything in your towe at 80°C+ over an extended time=not good.
Last edited by weiss; May 2, 2023 @ 9:51pm
Originally posted by Chiro:
60~65°C is normal work temp for most gpus, you can check your optimal work temp for your gpu with gpu-z, a well known tool, it shows you aswell at which temps it gets dangerous for your gpu. the only thing which you dont want is anything at 80°C+ in your rig/tower. while it is ok when it is only for short, can it cause over an extended time issues. cause stuff in your rig gets heat saturated over time. having anything in your towe at 80°C+ over an extended time=not good.
Thanks for the Info!
pichiYVALEN May 2, 2023 @ 9:58pm 
Originally posted by EliteForceQc:
Lower your setting, i have NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960. And im ok with temp.

I can burn my card just by putting my resolution and setting at max.
I got a laptop with a gtx1060 6gb ram, do you think it will run the game properly?
Bucks May 2, 2023 @ 10:01pm 
I have a 3080ti as well and get around the same temps. 60-65C isn't bad, rather normal temps for gaming and much better performance-wise vs other games running you up to 80 or even 90.
dorohn May 2, 2023 @ 10:14pm 
3090 here, on 4K with Vsync and setting max framerate at 60fps, my GPU gets to about 50 degree when running the game.
weiss May 3, 2023 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by LONGE$T MONEY:
I have a 3080ti as well and get around the same temps. 60-65C isn't bad, rather normal temps for gaming and much better performance-wise vs other games running you up to 80 or even 90.
if your gpu goes up to 80 or even 90°C is something wrong with your cooling.

all nvidia gpus have their optimal work temp between 55~70°C
their thermal throttle on factory default ranges from 81°C to 84°C
while they have an absolute max between 86°C to 88°C
you can download cpu-z, if you never changed anything on the factory default will all values i wrote down within that range.

when you google about gpu temps saying all sources that 80°C+ is not good INCLUDING nvidia itself.

again, you do not want anything over 80°C in your rig.
expecially not over 5hours+.
like i wrote, stuff gets slowly heat saturated and if your cooling system cant get it out will it sooner or later start to damage stuff on the board, the first things which usually suffer under the heat are condensators.

like for example, if i show you my gpu
https://gyazo.com/ba58845ebe18e2ad2555ff435030bd92
and and factory defaults like this will all nvidia cards show.

i only seen on AMD gpus an absolute max of 92°C but their thermal throttle was at 84°C but like i said, i never seen a maximum over 90°C on factory default settings on any nvidia card.

gpus should never go over 80°C.
Last edited by weiss; May 3, 2023 @ 1:32am
Originally posted by Chiro:
Originally posted by LONGE$T MONEY:
I have a 3080ti as well and get around the same temps. 60-65C isn't bad, rather normal temps for gaming and much better performance-wise vs other games running you up to 80 or even 90.
if your gpu goes up to 80 or even 90°C is something wrong with your cooling.

all nvidia gpus have their optimal work temp between 55~70°C
their thermal throttle on factory default ranges from 81°C to 84°C
while they have an absolute max between 86°C to 88°C
you can download cpu-z, if you never changed anything on the factory default will all values i wrote down within that range.

when you google about gpu temps saying all sources that 80°C+ is not good INCLUDING nvidia itself.

again, you do not want anything over 80°C in your rig.
expecially not over 5hours+.
like i wrote, stuff gets slowly heat saturated and if your cooling system cant get it out will it sooner or later start to damage stuff on the board, the first things which usually suffer under the heat are condensators.

like for example, if i show you my gpu
https://gyazo.com/ba58845ebe18e2ad2555ff435030bd92
and and factory defaults like this will all nvidia cards show.

i only seen on AMD gpus an absolute max of 92°C but their thermal throttle was at 84°C but like i said, i never seen a maximum over 90°C on factory default settings.

gpus should never go over 80°C.
You're very wrong. New AMD cards are known to run hot even with decent cooling. Many variants of the 5700xt run at 80-90c under max loads and fans spinning at 3k RPM. The thing here is that Geforce doesn't report the hotspot aka junction temps of the card as AMD Radeon does. My card reports a "GPU" temp of 40-60 usually. But the junction temp which is the temperature at the hottest part of the die is reported to be around 80c at the same time the "GPU" temp is reading 65c, and the fact is it is going to be much much higher than the average board temp in ANY card. I'm not sure why Nvidia doesn't report it, maybe they do now or maybe there was a setting back when I used to have GTX card, but I didn't know about junction temp being different until I got a 5700xt. This cards junction temp will frequently reach 95c depending on how clean and dusted it is. All of the capacitors and components on the card are rated for long term use at 110c (and knowing CYA liability and company QA testing standards they could probably push 115c at the outermost limit. The manual even says temperatures at the junction up to 100c are considered normal operating temperatures. All of that is really trivial to OP's post which I will address below.

65c just simply isn't hot. That's barely above idle temp, unless you're running liquid cooling. And for 65c to be hot under load for you suggest you'd be using like liquid nitrogen or something ludicrous. My Ryzen 3700x CPU has a stock cooler and under even incredible loads, and I have it very OC'd. I've never seen it go above 65c in my build. My airflow is good, my caseflow is good. I have a Sapphire Radeon RX 5700XT with the biggest cooler that's not liquid and one of the best performing if not the best performing variant both cooling wise and performance wise. On RDR2 my junction temp goes to around 75c with fans at max RPM. It gets loud as hell. On multiple high demand games this year my GPU has been pushed to around 85-95c on multiple occasions. I go back to RDR2 and it's the same as it was before, so it's not degradation or dust or anything like that. It's what's BOUND to happen as GPUs start using 2, 3, and even 4!! power connectors and gigahogging 200w,300,even 350w of power sometimes. You will not avoid temps at the resistors with pulls like that which are becoming increasingly required to display some of the newer aspects of tech we have now that were not widely scene a couple years ago even.
Last edited by Mehrunes Dagon did nothing wrong; May 3, 2023 @ 1:49am
Originally posted by Inspector Detective Jacques Clou:
Originally posted by Chiro:
if your gpu goes up to 80 or even 90°C is something wrong with your cooling.

all nvidia gpus have their optimal work temp between 55~70°C
their thermal throttle on factory default ranges from 81°C to 84°C
while they have an absolute max between 86°C to 88°C
you can download cpu-z, if you never changed anything on the factory default will all values i wrote down within that range.

when you google about gpu temps saying all sources that 80°C+ is not good INCLUDING nvidia itself.

again, you do not want anything over 80°C in your rig.
expecially not over 5hours+.
like i wrote, stuff gets slowly heat saturated and if your cooling system cant get it out will it sooner or later start to damage stuff on the board, the first things which usually suffer under the heat are condensators.

like for example, if i show you my gpu
https://gyazo.com/ba58845ebe18e2ad2555ff435030bd92
and and factory defaults like this will all nvidia cards show.

i only seen on AMD gpus an absolute max of 92°C but their thermal throttle was at 84°C but like i said, i never seen a maximum over 90°C on factory default settings.

gpus should never go over 80°C.
You're very wrong. New AMD cards are known to run hot even with decent cooling. Many variants of the 5700xt run at 80-90c under max loads and fans spinning at 3k RPM. The thing here is that Geforce doesn't report the hotspot aka junction temps of the card as AMD Radeon does. My card reports a "GPU" temp of 40-60 usually. But the junction temp which is the temperature at the hottest part of the die is reported to be around 80c at the same time the "GPU" temp is reading 65c, and the fact is it is going to be much much higher than the average board temp in ANY card. I'm not sure why Nvidia doesn't report it, maybe they do now or maybe there was a setting back when I used to have GTX card, but I didn't know about junction temp being different until I got a 5700xt. This cards junction temp will frequently reach 95c depending on how clean and dusted it is. All of the capacitors and components on the card are rated for long term use at 110c (and knowing CYA liability and company QA testing standards they could probably push 115c at the outermost limit. The manual even says temperatures at the junction up to 100c are considered normal operating temperatures. All of that is really trivial to OP's post which I will address below.

65c just simply isn't hot. That's barely above idle temp, unless you're running liquid cooling. And for 65c to be hot under load for you suggest you'd be using like liquid nitrogen or something ludicrous. My Ryzen 3700x CPU has a stock cooler and under even incredible loads, and I have it very OC'd. I've never seen it go above 65c in my build. My airflow is good, my caseflow is good. I have a Sapphire Radeon RX 5700XT with the biggest cooler that's not liquid and one of the best performing if not the best performing variant both cooling wise and performance wise. On RDR2 my junction temp goes to around 75c with fans at max RPM. It gets loud as hell. On multiple high demand games this year my GPU has been pushed to around 85-95c on multiple occasions. I go back to RDR2 and it's the same as it was before, so it's not degradation or dust or anything like that. It's what's BOUND to happen as GPUs start using 2, 3, and even 4!! power connectors and gigahogging 200w,300,even 350w of power sometimes. You will not avoid temps at the resistors with pulls like that which are becoming increasingly required to display some of the newer aspects of tech we have now that were not widely scene a couple years ago even.

Also I should note that most Japanese made capacitors are 110c capacitors hence why most places will clarify if a capacitor is Japanese or not. Sometimes they will just call them 110cs.
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