Shadows of Doubt

Shadows of Doubt

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Moose+ Apr 25, 2023 @ 12:09pm
Mission parameters
Is it just me or are some of the mission parameters ridiculous? I have a job, to find and arrest someone. All I know is their name starts with a B, they work in *BUILDING NAME*, and they like books.

I have broken into the enforcer office, printed out every citizen record starting with a B, worked my way through every office in the named building, poached their employee records, and still cannot find any link to my target.

I'm losing my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mind. I'm just asking anyone in the building DO YOU KNOW THIS PERSON, and they all tell me there's not enough information.

I've also checked all other businesses in the building like shops and the black market, AND the actual building maintenance staff office. Nothing links up.

If anyone has ANY suggestions i'll be grateful.
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Jarlim Apr 25, 2023 @ 12:31pm 
Id just abandon and try another case, some are insane yes, ive gotten some that are : find this person, they have A blood, green eyes, and are tall. its like....what???
Runner_number_1 Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Jarlim:
Id just abandon and try another case, some are insane yes, ive gotten some that are : find this person, they have A blood, green eyes, and are tall. its like....what???
Sounds like detective gameplay, yay! I had exactly the same set of signs and I managed to find the right person. I was surprised that I had already met them in the tutorial case.
Runner_number_1 Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by Moose+:
Is it just me or are some of the mission parameters ridiculous? I have a job, to find and arrest someone. All I know is their name starts with a B, they work in *BUILDING NAME*, and they like books.

I have broken into the enforcer office, printed out every citizen record starting with a B, worked my way through every office in the named building, poached their employee records, and still cannot find any link to my target.

I'm losing my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mind. I'm just asking anyone in the building DO YOU KNOW THIS PERSON, and they all tell me there's not enough information.

I've also checked all other businesses in the building like shops and the black market, AND the actual building maintenance staff office. Nothing links up.

If anyone has ANY suggestions i'll be grateful.
Have you tried looking at the address book with the phone numbers of the residents of the whole city? It lies next to any phone in a random apartment.
Oobaneko Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:07pm 
You can create own links. I've created links to fingerprints in the victim's apartments and found 4 sets: victim's, his wife/roommate (they live together), and two other sets, one, probably, belongs to cops (it's on the apartment enter door) and last one near victim's body.- so I can say that anyone with the last set of fingerprints were not only inside the apartment, but also near body.
Kyle Apr 25, 2023 @ 8:22pm 
If it's the murder stuff I'm fine, but an arrest where the only info is 'lives in building' and 'has x job title' is bonkers
zelosdomingo Apr 26, 2023 @ 12:12am 
I can't remember if it lists job title, but there are "Resident Databases" inside buildings, either in a file box or on a cruncher.
Illusia Apr 26, 2023 @ 12:17am 
This is a situation where you have to work 'around' the target rather that to the target. FInd out who has people who knows them, talk to them, ask about the person you're trying to figure out (looking for them to like books) and if no dice, then you move on. But yea, that case is kinda one you have to just be like 'probably not worth the time it'l take to get through it.'
zelosdomingo Apr 26, 2023 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Istyrn:
This is a situation where you have to work 'around' the target rather that to the target. FInd out who has people who knows them, talk to them, ask about the person you're trying to figure out (looking for them to like books) and if no dice, then you move on. But yea, that case is kinda one you have to just be like 'probably not worth the time it'l take to get through it.'

I've NEVER had someone tell me anything about a person unless I basically already know everything about them. Every time they just say "That's not enough info to go on!"
Illusia Apr 26, 2023 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by zelosdomingo:
Originally posted by Istyrn:
This is a situation where you have to work 'around' the target rather that to the target. FInd out who has people who knows them, talk to them, ask about the person you're trying to figure out (looking for them to like books) and if no dice, then you move on. But yea, that case is kinda one you have to just be like 'probably not worth the time it'l take to get through it.'

I've NEVER had someone tell me anything about a person unless I basically already know everything about them. Every time they just say "That's not enough info to go on!"

Really? You do need a mugshot and a name, but once you have those two (even if you only have a name and several feature details filled out, aside from stuff like shoe size) you can usually get intel on who they are pretty quick if you're poking around the right place. Don't expect people who live outside their building to know them but their neighbors probably can pick them out. But considering the name is at the same time the hardest and easiest part to get, it can be finicky to do it. They do give extra details. I'm not sure if they can give details like 'they're hard of hearing' but its worth a shot because I got details like 'I work with them' or 'They're my partner', so I have to imagine you can learn stuff like 'they like books' in a similar vein.
Kiu Apr 26, 2023 @ 1:04am 
I wish I got buildings. All I have for my latest Side-Job is a fingerprint and handwriting lol
Moose+ Apr 26, 2023 @ 2:25am 
My thought process was - Go to named building, break into every office / pay for a pass, use their records to find anyone whose name started with B.

None of their files mentioned they liked books, always sports, and I ran their names through the government database and got no links.

I'm OK with it being hard to find someone, but it's the point of "is this worth my time", because honestly no it's not.

If we could charge by the hour for a greater reward it could be worth it, with bonus objectives for extra rewards like unique furniture items or a syncdisk. The job giver could have a time limit to avoid players abusing the hourly rate. Or they want a progress update after X hours or they cancel the job.

As it stands I'd rather just abandon the mission and get another one that's achievable.

I like the investigation work when I believe i'm getting anywhere at all. With this one it's just frustrating because I've literally ran every person with a possible match through the government database and got nothing.

I wish I believed that this was just difficult and not bugged, but I just don't see what I've missed. Maybe i'm just dumber than I think.
Theraloss May 1, 2023 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by Moose+:
My thought process was - Go to named building, break into every office / pay for a pass, use their records to find anyone whose name started with B.

None of their files mentioned they liked books, always sports, and I ran their names through the government database and got no links.

I'm OK with it being hard to find someone, but it's the point of "is this worth my time", because honestly no it's not.

If we could charge by the hour for a greater reward it could be worth it, with bonus objectives for extra rewards like unique furniture items or a syncdisk. The job giver could have a time limit to avoid players abusing the hourly rate. Or they want a progress update after X hours or they cancel the job.

As it stands I'd rather just abandon the mission and get another one that's achievable.

I like the investigation work when I believe i'm getting anywhere at all. With this one it's just frustrating because I've literally ran every person with a possible match through the government database and got nothing.

I wish I believed that this was just difficult and not bugged, but I just don't see what I've missed. Maybe i'm just dumber than I think.

Y agree, I have a quest to find someone with "blue eyes" and "who likes music". Guess what? Everyone in the building has blue eyes (how's that even possible) and "always talks about sports". Two apartments with pianos and that's the end of my researches
Darkreaver1980 May 1, 2023 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Moose+:
Is it just me or are some of the mission parameters ridiculous? I have a job, to find and arrest someone. All I know is their name starts with a B, they work in *BUILDING NAME*, and they like books.

I have broken into the enforcer office, printed out every citizen record starting with a B, worked my way through every office in the named building, poached their employee records, and still cannot find any link to my target.

I'm losing my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mind. I'm just asking anyone in the building DO YOU KNOW THIS PERSON, and they all tell me there's not enough information.

I've also checked all other businesses in the building like shops and the black market, AND the actual building maintenance staff office. Nothing links up.

If anyone has ANY suggestions i'll be grateful.

This is very easy?

If they work in that building, just print out all employe files and cross check them.
i bet you get at most 2 people who start with the letter B
Top Marx May 1, 2023 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by Moose+:
Is it just me or are some of the mission parameters ridiculous? I have a job, to find and arrest someone. All I know is their name starts with a B, they work in *BUILDING NAME*, and they like books.

I have broken into the enforcer office, printed out every citizen record starting with a B, worked my way through every office in the named building, poached their employee records, and still cannot find any link to my target.

I'm losing my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mind. I'm just asking anyone in the building DO YOU KNOW THIS PERSON, and they all tell me there's not enough information.

I've also checked all other businesses in the building like shops and the black market, AND the actual building maintenance staff office. Nothing links up.

If anyone has ANY suggestions i'll be grateful.
There should probably be a check in place to make sure that you're getting at least one tangible lead, but a general location or partial name or workplace is more than enough to go on. You're playing a noir detective game, what do you think gumshoe means?

I got one that was like "their first name starts with L, they live somewhere in this building, and they have this hair style". Easy peasy, took me like ten minutes.
Last edited by Top Marx; May 1, 2023 @ 8:53am
Masquerade May 3, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
I just got "build: average, hair: short, grey hair, handwriting sample, interest: music"
this is in a very large size generated city.
This is the second arrest case in a row my game has thrown at me where there's literally no way to track down the target due to no tangible clues.

If I had any address, phone number, mugshot or work place I'd have done this in mere moments but this is almost literally a needle in a haystack.
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Date Posted: Apr 25, 2023 @ 12:09pm
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