Shadows of Doubt

Shadows of Doubt

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Subjekt One Apr 24, 2023 @ 11:17pm
Novak Basement 03 Bug?
When talking to Mrs. Gallagher, she gives me a key to this apartment, yet, going in it (in some cheeky ways since it's not indicated which apartment it is) says that I'm trespassing. I know it's the one since it says on the bathroom door that it is the 03 Novak basement bathroom door. I've been stuck here for 45min, trying to re-load saves, re-talking to mrs. Gallagher, etc. I just gave up for now lol.

Help!

I love the game otherwise. I'll be writing a review in the upcoming days, when bugs like this will be fixed. Keep up the great work!

(I've seen a discussion like this one in the forums, I just want to make sure that the dev sees it)
Last edited by Subjekt One; Apr 24, 2023 @ 11:20pm
Originally posted by exciteddelirium:
I managed to find a fix. After you close the first case, and come back to your apartment just to realise it was reposessed, patiently wait until you get the TALK TO THE LADY message, that will stick to your upper right hand corner.
Then, proceed to her door, using the stairs, so that you trigger the date and place text appearing in the lower left corner of your screen. Only then talk to her, make it continous with the text.
When talking to her, don't rush nothing, just patiently wait for her to say her thing, and there should appear the new subquest, and the location of the apartment will be automatically selected as the minimap target, with the arrow pointing towards it.
Just be patient, and repeat the above until you get it. Best of luck!
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Subjekt One Apr 25, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by sean.campbell:
Definitely sounds like there are some bugs connected to this. Please do report them in-game so we can look at the save files and player logs to try work out where it is going wrong and implement a fix asap!
Definitely will, thanks!
Subjekt One Apr 25, 2023 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by exciteddelirium:
I managed to find a fix. After you close the first case, and come back to your apartment just to realise it was reposessed, patiently wait until you get the TALK TO THE LADY message, that will stick to your upper right hand corner.
Then, proceed to her door, using the stairs, so that you trigger the date and place text appearing in the lower left corner of your screen. Only then talk to her, make it continous with the text.
When talking to her, don't rush nothing, just patiently wait for her to say her thing, and there should appear the new subquest, and the location of the apartment will be automatically selected as the minimap target, with the arrow pointing towards it.
Just be patient, and repeat the above until you get it. Best of luck!
It worked. I think what caused the bug is to not wait for the "Find and talk to mrs. Gallagher" as an objective. Since I've died the first time between this and talking to her, I rushed everytime.

It's kind of odd to be honest. lol

Thanks again exciteddelirium, I hope this works for everyone. :steamthumbsup:
DistantReaper Apr 25, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
Mine bugged out and I had to reload. Needed to complete the end of the tutorial case again. Everything worked the second time.
keikolo0505 Apr 25, 2023 @ 4:18pm 
Finally find a way to work this out. The method is to NOT talk to her at her workplace, but wait until she is at home. The bug is properly due to asking her at her workplace instead of her house. You could try follow the below steps to see if the issue is resolved
(P.S. If you have already talked to her at her workplace, you will have to load an earlier save which you have never spoken to her.)

You could sit on the bench in front of her house and then use the watch to wait until 18:00 (since she works until 17:00 and better to give some time for her to walk back home).

Knock the door and wait for her to answer the door. Ask the question about the new apartment, and a new objective will show when she finishes the dialogue. Follow the new objective and head to the basement 03, you could then unlock the door and finish the objective.
(P.S. The basement 03 is still locked when you first approach it, look at the door knob and click the right mouse button to unlock it, and you are good to go).

Hope this could be helpful!
Last edited by keikolo0505; Apr 25, 2023 @ 4:19pm
Schreckofant Apr 25, 2023 @ 4:29pm 
I think I have the same problem, it was called Favor High for me though from a Miyamoto in Sapporo after the "tutorial case". I can run through the whole building and I dont have the key for any of the appartments nor does the game even mention what I am supposed to do - if I hadnt marked Miyamoto I wouldnt even know how to find that person anymore, the "mission" just disappeared.

I also dont have anything set as a "Home appartment" when I click the button on the minimap, nothing happens. It seems like the game is basically soft locked at this point.

I also talked to the person at the work place, since she wasnt at home and I searched her appartment for her work address. I didnt back up my save prior to doing that.

Ill maybe try to see if I can talk to her again when shes at home and if that fixes it or not.
Last edited by Schreckofant; Apr 25, 2023 @ 4:32pm
Subjekt One Apr 25, 2023 @ 5:39pm 
Originally posted by keikolo0505:
Finally find a way to work this out. The method is to NOT talk to her at her workplace, but wait until she is at home. The bug is properly due to asking her at her workplace instead of her house. You could try follow the below steps to see if the issue is resolved
(P.S. If you have already talked to her at her workplace, you will have to load an earlier save which you have never spoken to her.)

You could sit on the bench in front of her house and then use the watch to wait until 18:00 (since she works until 17:00 and better to give some time for her to walk back home).

Knock the door and wait for her to answer the door. Ask the question about the new apartment, and a new objective will show when she finishes the dialogue. Follow the new objective and head to the basement 03, you could then unlock the door and finish the objective.
(P.S. The basement 03 is still locked when you first approach it, look at the door knob and click the right mouse button to unlock it, and you are good to go).

Hope this could be helpful!
That's what I did everytime. I was waiting on the bench in front of her door. The bug still hapenned everytime.
Last edited by Subjekt One; Apr 25, 2023 @ 5:39pm
Subjekt One Apr 25, 2023 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by Schreckofant:
I think I have the same problem, it was called Favor High for me though from a Miyamoto in Sapporo after the "tutorial case". I can run through the whole building and I dont have the key for any of the appartments nor does the game even mention what I am supposed to do - if I hadnt marked Miyamoto I wouldnt even know how to find that person anymore, the "mission" just disappeared.

I also dont have anything set as a "Home appartment" when I click the button on the minimap, nothing happens. It seems like the game is basically soft locked at this point.

I also talked to the person at the work place, since she wasnt at home and I searched her appartment for her work address. I didnt back up my save prior to doing that.

Ill maybe try to see if I can talk to her again when shes at home and if that fixes it or not.
Try this. It worked for me, hopefuly for you and everyone as well.

"I managed to find a fix. After you close the first case, and come back to your apartment just to realise it was reposessed, patiently wait until you get the TALK TO THE LADY message, that will stick to your upper right hand corner.
Then, proceed to her door, using the stairs, so that you trigger the date and place text appearing in the lower left corner of your screen. Only then talk to her, make it continous with the text.
When talking to her, don't rush nothing, just patiently wait for her to say her thing, and there should appear the new subquest, and the location of the apartment will be automatically selected as the minimap target, with the arrow pointing towards it.
Just be patient, and repeat the above until you get it. Best of luck!"
Lesliemeursault Apr 26, 2023 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by exciteddelirium:
I managed to find a fix. After you close the first case, and come back to your apartment just to realise it was reposessed, patiently wait until you get the TALK TO THE LADY message, that will stick to your upper right hand corner.
Then, proceed to her door, using the stairs, so that you trigger the date and place text appearing in the lower left corner of your screen. Only then talk to her, make it continous with the text.
When talking to her, don't rush nothing, just patiently wait for her to say her thing, and there should appear the new subquest, and the location of the apartment will be automatically selected as the minimap target, with the arrow pointing towards it.
Just be patient, and repeat the above until you get it. Best of luck!
thank you, I tried at least 10 times and worked, lol
Green LiberTea May 3, 2023 @ 10:48am 
Had the same issue and just determined why it wasn't working for me.

Having solved the first case, I created a new murder board for the upcoming second case to clear all the old data away, and was using that new screen. I headed off to talk to the union rep for help with my housing, and while her dialogue indicated that I had the key, because I was on the new page, it never registered that I met with her, thus solved that post-mission status.

Staying on the first murderboard, the quest item disappeared and I was granted a GPS arrow to head to the apartment.
Ozuf May 9, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
I had the same problem.

I think the solution is:
* Click F to open the current cases and click on the circle button for "Select No Case".
* Save the game.
* Load the game.
* Go to your apartment.
* You should get a popup in the upper right telling you to talk to Beth Gallager
* Go talk to her across the street and finish the dialog about the apartment.
* You should now get the popup about going to the new apartment.

The reason that it did not work for me was that another case had a next step, and it seems that the story does not recognize the progression unless it is the active mission.
Tarih May 10, 2023 @ 10:02am 
I've been trying to fix it for 1.5 hours and I can't. I saved after I talked to Beth Galagher, and I can't go back. I have done everything that has been recommended in this post and it doesn't work. I've submitted a BUG report, but I'm afraid I can't continue until it's fixed...
LaBaDa May 27, 2023 @ 3:43pm 
Hey I had a similar issue, I got all the dialog but there was no 03 basement Novak house to go to, but I solved it simply by reselecting the tutorial case and talking to the lady again. I had switched over to a new case to keep track of her address without all the clutter from the last case, lol.

Short version: you need to have "The Dead of Night" still selected as your active case or the questline breaks.
Bulbasaur420 May 28, 2023 @ 12:45pm 
I had the exact same issue. I found it was because I had a different case open. I created a new "case" for finding a house and used her flyer as the start of my new chart or case or whatever. As soon as I changed it to the murder I just solved it let the story continue.
kiketasu Jun 16, 2023 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Subjekt One:
When talking to Mrs. Gallagher, she gives me a key to this apartment, yet, going in it (in some cheeky ways since it's not indicated which apartment it is) says that I'm trespassing. I know it's the one since it says on the bathroom door that it is the 03 Novak basement bathroom door. I've been stuck here for 45min, trying to re-load saves, re-talking to mrs. Gallagher, etc. I just gave up for now lol.

Help!

I love the game otherwise. I'll be writing a review in the upcoming days, when bugs like this will be fixed. Keep up the great work!

(I've seen a discussion like this one in the forums, I just want to make sure that the dev sees it)

There is another possible fix to this:
When You find the murderer and solve the first case, DO NOT OPEN a new Case Tab, you may stay on the same case tab. I made that mistake and don't know what was happening. When I switch to the main story case tab (it is impossible to delete, a message will pop up if you try), then the quest of Beth appears and when talk to her the mission will update and point you to the basament. Hope it helps
Blyatmobile Jul 26, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
i made sure that i was in the same case tab as the intro murder, then talk to her. if you are in a different case folder it doesnt work
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Date Posted: Apr 24, 2023 @ 11:17pm
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