NEW SoR Remake Update - 5.2

[moike]

New Stages
Rehauled difficulties
Rehauled AI
Rehauled Hitbox system
Widescreen
New moves/animations
New intro/menus
New UI features
New ending art
Trophies
BKM Blaze w/ portraits
Etc. Etc.

Go get it here:
https://amp.reddit.com/r/StreetsofRage/comments/juz3ul/streets_of_rage_remake_52_final_has_been_released/

[Teie]

İlk olarak toxicitzi tarafından gönderildi:

this was nice... I like the changes they made, but I think they made Zamza a hell of a lot trickier than Abadede. Maybe it's only Hard like that.

but anyway, the more I play it, the more I'm starting to notice that I'm maybe too used to playing as Max, because the other characters feel very weak compared to him.

In v5.2 quite a few of his moves were nerfed in terms of damage output. Like his Suplex which is now one of the weakest 'throw moves' out of all characters, or his second blitz which is also a bit less powerful than before, just like his Atomic Drop. They tried to balance him since he can run and is quite mobile overall in Remake, but the result is anything but Max.
Like, I can't believe looking at him doing his Suplex that it does only 18-22HP of damage. The amount of visual impact doesn't match the damage an enemy receives.

The AI changes are also questionable at times. I like me some challenge, but not when an enemy becomes a nuisance. Instead of fighting you they tend to circle around a bit too much. And an interesting thing I'd like to note: the SoR4 prepatch thing was introduced which a lot of people weren't happy with. Now some enemies have an insane priority on their first hit (Galsia-type) and the Y-axis while attempting to attack you. It's beyond annoying and forces you to use the offesive special preamptively quite a bit more often/ roll. And it's fine and dandy if you go with a replenishable SP bar or have the roll options is set to 'on'. But imagine you don't because you are an SoR2 purist, or like it an old-fashioned SoR1 way. Will the AI change its behaviour based on that? Well, not so much.

I mean, v5.2 has posed so many right question with its AI changes that should create less gap between different characters and utilize more moves (the back attack is now more useful, yay!), but has done a few mistakes that created new problems. Like, excuse me, but Axel 3 is now the absolute OP because of his sheer basic jab speed. Using this you can easily crush the game on any path relatively quickly, while Max has basically remained Max but less powerful..? And while you can easily counter a Galsia's first strike with Blaze 1 (who is somewhat slower) because of her basic attack's reach, don't forget the enemy has an insane Y-axis priority over you which wasn't an issue in v5.1.

Overall, a very intersting patch that raises very intricate questions about SoRRemake balancing. Whether it should be there at all or is it just a game that you create in the options menu for yourself (which, by the way, a lot of people don't like it for because they are used to more straight-forward experiences).
P.S I am very reluctant to say this, but this update has made me wanna replay Fight'n Rage so badly :D It's as if the SoRRemake team has heard all of the complaints and grivances with SoR4, Fight'n Rage and SoRR v5.1 over the past half a year and tried to integrate them all at once with the idea of pleasing everyone. The core has remained the same though which is good.

[El Fuerte]

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak 𝐑𝐞𝐝♛𝟒𝟓𝟕 tarafından gönderildi:

You can think that it is. But the fact is that it is not, and it was shut down by Sega. Its that simple. SoRR is a remake taking place in the same events of SoR1 and 2, not a sequel

Don't get me wrong. I love SoRR and i did not agree with what Sega has done to Bomber Games.

SEGA might have intervened but that's not important. What really matters is that people downloaded, played and shared Streets of Rage Remake anyway and kept the interest in the franchise alive. It's one of the best fan games ever made and we even got further updates despite the legal intervention. I'm not even sure if we would have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ a Streets of Rage 4 without SoRR being around for so long and holding up the SoR flag.

so what? Its still NOT a sequel. Its a great fan made remake of SoR1 and 2 events. Period.

Streets of Rage 4 is the sequel to Streets of rage 3 whenever you like the game or not. End of story.

[TParis]

İlk olarak Krustaceo (𝐑𝐞𝐝♛𝟒𝟓𝟕) tarafından gönderildi:

so what? Its still NOT a sequel. Its a great fan made remake of SoR1 and 2 events. Period.

Streets of Rage 4 is the sequel to Streets of rage 3 whenever you like the game or not. End of story.

A fanmade sequel is still a sequel. It even features a new storyline, new gameplay and new stages. The official sequel is SoR4 and that's fine. SoRR is a fanmade sequel to SoR2. Why are we even arguing about this? :D Anyway, my point is how important SoRR was and still is to the current state of the franchise and large parts of its fanbase.

[Gamephreak5]

Nah, SORR is OK, but it's still amateur fan trash. SOR4 is a way better SoR game and is actually an official sequel that's actually good and fun to play.

[Ares4X]

İlk olarak Gamephreak5 tarafından gönderildi:

Nah, SORR is OK, but it's still amateur fan trash. SOR4 is a way better SoR game and is actually an official sequel that's actually good and fun to play.

"Amateur Fan Trash" are you serious? It's a brilliant retro remake. How dare you!

Before you call it trash, do it better first!

[Shallys]

I mean, why are you even bringing that up in the SOR4 forum?

I've never really liked SoRR because if how broken or how it looks too pretentious for a fangame, just like its fanbase. You don't like SoR4 we get it, you don't have to pollute the board by inciting people to either hack the game or advertise a fangame out of all things.

You people sure talk a lot for a game that is, literally, ripping all the original work that Sega did on their franchise to begin with. You did "better"? You are "better"? While using all the sprites, musics that you didn't even came up with? You can't be more prententious than that.

[TParis]

İlk olarak Shabaoe tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

A fanmade sequel is still a sequel.

How many times will people have to tell you? Its not a fan made sequel. Its a fan made remake. Its called Streets of Rage REMAKE. Bomber Games called it a remake, never called it a "sequel". Do you need a drawning?

Don't be stupid.

It's both. A remake of all the classic games gameplay- and content-wise but story-wise a sequel to SoR1&2, an alternative to the story of SoR3. Don't be so upset about such a simple thing.

İlk olarak Shallys tarafından gönderildi:

I mean, why are you even bringing that up in the SOR4 forum?

I've never really liked SoRR because if how broken or how it looks too pretentious for a fangame, just like its fanbase. You don't like SoR4 we get it, you don't have to pollute the board by inciting people to either hack the game or advertise a fangame out of all things.

Because this one of the very few places where Streets of Rage being discussed these days. Don't like the SoRR? That's fine. I absolutely love SoR4. But I don't mind steering more attention to the Remake which kept the community and the interest in the franchise alive for so many years. The SoR4 team/moderation is free to close this thread if they wish to do so.

How about we don't antagonize each other and be happy there are both games?

[L.3.N.Z.]

Sounds like people liked the fan fiction enough to consider it cannon, even tho that should be up to the devs to decide.

[Shallys]

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

But I don't mind steering more attention to the Remake which kept the community and the interest in the franchise alive for so many years. The SoR4 team/moderation is free to close this thread if they wish to do so.
How about we don't antagonize each other and be happy there are both games?

Oh please.

This kind of discussion has been going since day 1 when a group of people declared that SoR4 was not worthy of being the sequel. If that's not pretentious, I don't know what that is. I'll accept SoR4 as the true successor because it's being made by the company that started it all, period.
I too have played all SoR games including SoRR, and I completely disagree about you people trying to pass SoRR as the best game ever when it's just a total ripoff of the originals.

Also no. SoRR isn't what kept "the interest in the franchise alive for so many years", SoR2 did. If you all think that SoRR is so amazing why don't you just, like, use or make your own SoRR board or something? I don't see where you people got the idea that SoRR was the better game, or how "people liked it so much that's it's considered canon". By who? Because even here in the review SoR4 still is on an overwhelming positive note.

SoRR is free to have its own story, but it won't change the fact that it is fan-made. That is not canon by definition. Period.

Edit : I would also really like to emphasize that you're all using the SoR4 board to advertise another game.

[L.3.N.Z.]

İlk olarak Shallys tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

But I don't mind steering more attention to the Remake which kept the community and the interest in the franchise alive for so many years. The SoR4 team/moderation is free to close this thread if they wish to do so.
How about we don't antagonize each other and be happy there are both games?

Oh please.

This kind of discussion has been going since day 1 when a group of people declared that SoR4 was not worthy of being the sequel. If that's not pretentious, I don't know what that is. I'll accept SoR4 as the true successor because it's being made by the company that started it all, period.
I too have played all SoR games including SoRR, and I completely disagree about you people trying to pass SoRR as the best game ever when it's just a total ripoff of the originals.

Also no. SoRR isn't what kept "the interest in the franchise alive for so many years", SoR2 did. If you all think that SoRR is so amazing why don't you just, like, use or make your own SoRR board or something? I don't see where you people got the idea that SoRR was the better game, or how "people liked it so much that's it's considered canon". By who? Because even here in the review SoR4 still is on an overwhelming positive note.

SoRR is free to have its own story, but it won't change the fact that it is fan-made. That is not canon by definition. Period.

Edit : I would also really like to emphasize that you're all using the SoR4 board to advertise another game.

Did you quote me?

When SoR4 was coming out, there were a lot of people comparing So4 to SoRR (They might be the ones that consider it canon).

I don't know were these guys are at this moment, but I do know they have commented on these discussions (Look for Dash/Sprint topics in the discussions).

I have never played SoRR. Only heard praises and the... well, more praises about the game.

With my inexperience I think its over hyped.

[TParis]

İlk olarak Shallys tarafından gönderildi:

SoRR is free to have its own story, but it won't change the fact that it is fan-made. That is not canon by definition. Period.

Never said it is canon, quite the opposite. Even though I like it a bit more than SoR4 as a continuation of the series. Why are you bothered so much by the fact that SoRR is being discussed here? The devs don't seem to mind - why should you?

Anyway, I'm tired of this discussion and will no longer reply o these kind of SoR4 vs SoRR posts.There's nothing to win here. SoR4 is the official and fanatstic sequel to the classic games, not going to claim otherwise.

[L.3.N.Z.]

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Shallys tarafından gönderildi:

SoRR is free to have its own story, but it won't change the fact that it is fan-made. That is not canon by definition. Period.

Never said it is canon, quite the opposite. Even though I like it a bit more than SoR4 as a continuation of the series.

Anyway, I'm tired of this discussion and will no longer reply o these kind of SoR4 vs SoRR posts.There's nothing to win here. SoR4 is the official sequel to the classic games, not going to claim otherwise.

This. ^

[Toxi]

İlk olarak Zebulenz tarafından gönderildi:

Sounds like people liked the fan fiction enough to consider it cannon, even tho that should be up to the devs to decide.

not, really?.. I just play the game, because the game is fun.

[shamamoes]

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Shallys tarafından gönderildi:

SoRR is free to have its own story, but it won't change the fact that it is fan-made. That is not canon by definition. Period.

Never said it is canon, quite the opposite.

You called it "the true sequel to the series" which is even more stupid.

Its a fan made remake. Opinions doesn't matter in this case, just facts. SoRR is not a sequel and it will never be a sequel.

[Toxi]

İlk olarak Shabaoe tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak TParis tarafından gönderildi:

Never said it is canon, quite the opposite.

You called it "the true sequel to the series" which is even more stupid.

Its a fan made remake. Opinions doesn't matter in this case, just facts. SoRR is not a sequel and it will never be a sequel.

oh, would shut your mouth with this load of "factual" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?.

Of Course it's Not Literally a sequel to SOR.. It's a figure of speech, you automaton in human skin.

Get your head out of the "fact" gutter.