Are Research Servers not Loader-compatible?

[Chakul]

I can't seem to use a Loader attached to any of the connection points around the Research Servers to collect Research Packets of any kind off of my belts. I'm currently working my way through the Red & Blue Research Packet tech.

Am I doing something wrong here? Or do these machines simply not accept items through the use of Loaders? If it's the ladder, what are these connection points even used for on the Research Servers?



Just for clarity sake, yes, my Loaders are set to "Intake" mode. (Technically, I was using "Default" mode, but I toggled a few different Loaders specifically into Intake mode to see if that would make any difference. I couldn't get either mode to work.) I'm not having any issues with Loaders for any of the other machines so far, however.

[Mouser]

are you trying to load both red and blue science from 1 belt?

[Stellar Remnant]

Originally posted by Chakul:

I can't seem to use a Loader attached to any of the connection points around the Research Servers to collect Research Packets of any kind off of my belts. I'm currently working my way through the Red & Blue Research Packet tech.

Am I doing something wrong here? Or do these machines simply not accept items through the use of Loaders? If it's the ladder, what are these connection points even used for on the Research Servers?

one item type per belt
research servers only buffer 3 science packs to let the others have a chance and so you don't waste resources excessively

[Knsgf]

Make sure loaders are on powered foundation.

[Chakul]

Originally posted by MiniHerc:

Originally posted by Chakul:

I can't seem to use a Loader attached to any of the connection points around the Research Servers to collect Research Packets of any kind off of my belts. I'm currently working my way through the Red & Blue Research Packet tech.

Am I doing something wrong here? Or do these machines simply not accept items through the use of Loaders? If it's the ladder, what are these connection points even used for on the Research Servers?

one item type per belt
research servers only buffer 3 science packs to let the others have a chance and so you don't waste resources excessively

Ah, so the buffers are absolutely minuscule. Alright. That may have been a factor during my tests. Thanks for the insight.

That is a shame, though. I feel like these stations aught to have a much larger buffer. But, to be fair, I can understand why, since the blueprints tend to take quite some time to process.

Thank you for the prompt and on-point answer.

[Knsgf]

Even if buffers were bigger, they would eventually fill up and cause a jam.

[Stellar Remnant]

Originally posted by Chakul:

That is a shame, though. I feel like these stations aught to have a much larger buffer. But, to be fair, I can understand why, since the blueprints tend to take quite some time to process.

there is no reason for them to have a larger buffer

if you have a line of 16 research servers, do you really want the first one to hog 100 before the others in line have a chance?

if you want a science buffer, the assemblers will happily produce up to the stack limit in their output buffers. containers for more.

[Chakul]

Originally posted by Knsgf:

Even if buffers were bigger, they would eventually fill up and cause a jam.

True. But I was ultimately looking for a lazy solution to my early game storage dilemma, if I'm being fair here. The less hand-work I have to do, the more I can focus on infrastructure and taking naps.

For the time being, I'm relying on stupidly large arrays of "Logistic Container 1" storage containers. They aren't great, but they do hold a fair amount of items for their tile footprint.

[Chakul]

Originally posted by MiniHerc:

Originally posted by Chakul:

That is a shame, though. I feel like these stations aught to have a much larger buffer. But, to be fair, I can understand why, since the blueprints tend to take quite some time to process.

there is no reason for them to have a larger buffer

if you have a line of 16 research servers, do you really want the first one to hog 100 before the others in line have a chance?

if you want a science buffer, the assemblers will happily produce up to the stack limit in their output buffers. containers for more.

See, I don't really play factory games like that. I don't have any need for massive systems to process items as fast as possible. I set up a basic system, get things running, let it run overnight or while I'm playing something else, and come back later. A lot of factory games let you build up gigantic factories. But, because there's no time limitation, you really don't have to have a giant factory for any reason.

[Stellar Remnant]

Originally posted by Chakul:

Originally posted by MiniHerc:

there is no reason for them to have a larger buffer

if you have a line of 16 research servers, do you really want the first one to hog 100 before the others in line have a chance?

if you want a science buffer, the assemblers will happily produce up to the stack limit in their output buffers. containers for more.

See, I don't really play factory games like that. I don't have any need for massive systems to process items as fast as possible. I set up a basic system, get things running, let it run overnight or while I'm playing something else, and come back later. A lot of factory games let you build up gigantic factories. But, because there's no time limitation, you really don't have to have a giant factory for any reason.

Foundry does have limited resources until a tier 5 lategame research.
careful that you don't come back to a factory out of resources with no way to make more to exploit patches far away

every smelter and assembler will buffer a stack size in their outputs. this can add up to a LOT even without any dedicated buffer storage.

[Chakul]

Originally posted by MiniHerc:

Originally posted by Chakul:

See, I don't really play factory games like that. I don't have any need for massive systems to process items as fast as possible. I set up a basic system, get things running, let it run overnight or while I'm playing something else, and come back later. A lot of factory games let you build up gigantic factories. But, because there's no time limitation, you really don't have to have a giant factory for any reason.

Foundry does have limited resources until a tier 5 lategame research.
careful that you don't come back to a factory out of resources with no way to make more to exploit patches far away

every smelter and assembler will buffer a stack size in their outputs. this can add up to a LOT even without any dedicated buffer storage.

I am aware of the game's limitations and I understand that much about the buffers. This is not my first rodeo.

As I said, however, thank you for your answer and insight on the Research Servers and Loaders conundrum. The buffer size was something that I had forgotten to factor. Have a good day.