CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE who supported us

[Denyal]

as of today we know for a fact that Crystar won't be censored on Steam, only on PS4, you can check the news on recent by google, one angry gamer, etc. got a couple bans, got hate, but it was worth it. getting this game DAY 1

[billyhatcher643]

Originally posted by Denyal:

could be a part of a cinematic, dialogue, full on content, it is thanks to us after the butchered release of Zanki Zero that we now have two confirmed untouched titles, CRYSTAR, that might be minimun and Conception PLUS, PS4 will get content completely changed and the PC version will be untouched.

Never let people start censoring even small things, then they start doing more and more. Like I said, Congrats everyone here, on twitter, social media and events.

the reason why theyre censoring the game on ps4 is due to sonys new ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ censorship policy and even the japanese cant release uncensored versions on the japanese ps4 even though theyve been doing it for years and now even the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ policy effects the japanese console too so the only platforms they have freedom on are pc and the switch

[Denyal]

but they did started to apply same builds for all platforms, until people got fed up when zanki zero got butchered, people made noise, pc now gets full games, everyone wins

[billyhatcher643]

Originally posted by Denyal:

but they did started to apply same builds for all platforms, until people got fed up when zanki zero got butchered, people made noise, pc now gets full games, everyone wins

oh so thats why one game xseed released got backlash due to them censoring the pc and switch versions based on the ps4 version which now the devs will have to make the pc uncensored and the ps4 version uncensored and thatll make people goto pc even more cause sony is censoring our games while pc versions dont so thanks for telling me that cause i hate censorship and i dont support playstation right now due to the censorship

[Outsider]

Is there a rundown of what exactly was censored in PS4 version beside trailer and official confirmation from devs that such censorship is not present in PC version?

[Red]

Originally posted by Außenseiter:

Is there a rundown of what exactly was censored in PS4 version beside trailer and official confirmation from devs that such censorship is not present in PC version?

Yep, there's a Spike Chunsoft blog post saying the opening is the only thing that was changed in the PS4 version (which is still a ridiculous edit in the first place). That's for the official statement.

Now maybe some things were toned down in the localisation, so that's still something to check. Aside from that, I doubt they'd lie about what was censored, because it would be really bad PR and that would have a huge negative impact on their upcoming sales. In that regard, I think they're even more transparent than most companies by mentioning the changes instead of leaving players guessing.

[billyhatcher643]

Originally posted by Red:

Originally posted by Außenseiter:

Is there a rundown of what exactly was censored in PS4 version beside trailer and official confirmation from devs that such censorship is not present in PC version?

Yep, there's a Spike Chunsoft blog post saying the opening is the only thing that was changed in the PS4 version (which is still a ridiculous edit in the first place). That's for the official statement.

Now maybe some things were toned down in the localisation, so that's still something to check. Aside from that, I doubt they'd lie about what was censored, because it would be really bad PR and that would have a huge negative impact on their upcoming sales. In that regard, I think they're even more transparent than most companies by mentioning the changes instead of leaving players guessing.

censoring the game is bad pr but its only bad pr to a small minority of the NPC people who dont buy anything and when u see them type in but in their comment means they never cared in the first place and i think its just disgusting to even censor one split second of naked ass and most of the people who buy these games are adults and almost adult teenagers who are starting to become adults so most of their sales come from people who actually have money to spend

[Red]

Originally posted by NiGHTSfan:

Originally posted by Red:

Yep, there's a Spike Chunsoft blog post saying the opening is the only thing that was changed in the PS4 version (which is still a ridiculous edit in the first place). That's for the official statement.

Now maybe some things were toned down in the localisation, so that's still something to check. Aside from that, I doubt they'd lie about what was censored, because it would be really bad PR and that would have a huge negative impact on their upcoming sales. In that regard, I think they're even more transparent than most companies by mentioning the changes instead of leaving players guessing.

censoring the game is bad pr but its only bad pr to a small minority of the NPC people who dont buy anything and when u see them type in but in their comment means they never cared in the first place and i think its just disgusting to even censor one split second of naked ass and most of the people who buy these games are adults and almost adult teenagers who are starting to become adults so most of their sales come from people who actually have money to spend

I agree Sony's recent censorship spree is stupid, trying to pander to an audience that would never touch the game no matter whether it's censored or not. Unfortunately, developers and publishers have to apply it to sell it on their platform, especially as it's still the main one where games sell the most and where most of said games' target audience still is (for the moment, it's starting to shift towards Switch and PC it seems).

[billyhatcher643]

Originally posted by Red:

Originally posted by NiGHTSfan:

censoring the game is bad pr but its only bad pr to a small minority of the NPC people who dont buy anything and when u see them type in but in their comment means they never cared in the first place and i think its just disgusting to even censor one split second of naked ass and most of the people who buy these games are adults and almost adult teenagers who are starting to become adults so most of their sales come from people who actually have money to spend

I agree Sony's recent censorship spree is stupid, trying to pander to an audience that would never touch the game no matter whether it's censored or not. Unfortunately, developers and publishers have to apply it to sell it on their platform, especially as it's still the main one where games sell the most and where most of said games' target audience still is (for the moment, it's starting to shift towards Switch and PC it seems).

i do play on my xbox one more than my ps4 and i play on my switch once in a while and pc is dedicated to mostly visual novels and japanese games in general from better quality companies like xseed for now cause of the senran kagura games i bought

[Red]

Originally posted by NiGHTSfan:

Originally posted by Red:

I agree Sony's recent censorship spree is stupid, trying to pander to an audience that would never touch the game no matter whether it's censored or not. Unfortunately, developers and publishers have to apply it to sell it on their platform, especially as it's still the main one where games sell the most and where most of said games' target audience still is (for the moment, it's starting to shift towards Switch and PC it seems).

i do play on my xbox one more than my ps4 and i play on my switch once in a while and pc is dedicated to mostly visual novels and japanese games in general from better quality companies like xseed for now cause of the senran kagura games i bought

Except most people only have one or two platforms, and most of them settle for a console. Among them, many have a PS4 and won't make the switch to another platform anytime soon for a variety of reasons, except maybe those who actually care about niche games.

[billyhatcher643]

Originally posted by Red:

Originally posted by NiGHTSfan:

i do play on my xbox one more than my ps4 and i play on my switch once in a while and pc is dedicated to mostly visual novels and japanese games in general from better quality companies like xseed for now cause of the senran kagura games i bought

Except most people only have one or two platforms, and most of them settle for a console. Among them, many have a PS4 and won't make the switch to another platform anytime soon for a variety of reasons, except maybe those who actually care about niche games.

i know thats why i have all 3 platforms but i saved money to get thoes consoles and my pc on my own and its good to own every platform to have different expereances and the ps4 is true first party games and the nintendo switch is the true mobile device for triple a titles and my xbox is for online or 3rd party triple a titles cause xbox live is faster than psn is when it comes to online downloads and online gameplay in general cause i can argue with that since ive expereanced with both consoles

[Purpleetea]

It's tully sad that Sony became soyboy console.

[Thorley23]

Originally posted by NiGHTSfan:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Sony is a Japanese company -.-, it's only censored in the western release, because there are so many casuals who get butthurt that they thought that everything that is not real is child content, and then get surprised because of adult content.

i know that dude but sony of japan has to listen to the morons of the west who are enforcing the censorship so basically theyre now sony of america but in japan

Actually i don't mean to be rude but there is a more complex reality here. It's true that back in the 1990s and early 2000s Japanese releases, ranging from video games to manga, to anime and other things were all being censored at the demands of the west, getting an uncut "subtitled" version was one way around this, as was dealing with certain fansubbers who translated specific pirate versions of games or anime. That said things have changed radically in recent years.

Japan itself is on a massive censorship kick as the government is cracking down on immoral behavior due to the reputation Japan was getting in the international marketplace and the feeling it was holding back trade. They also wound up with a lot of western-style control fetishists in power who see "morality" as a good excuse to exert control on the creative population and control free expression. Simply put while there are exceptions Japanese works are not going as far as they once did, this is why there is a certain market for 1990s Anime which is far more intense than what is being produced right now. Simply put, a lot of the prudishness is coming from Japan itself, as anyone who has say searched for a way to uncensor Senran Kagura games can tell you, the censorship is part of all releases of the game and not something slapped onto the western version which means to get actual nudity in the scenes you'd expect to have it can require extensive editing. Mosaic censorship is also increasingly common across the entire spectrum of Japanese products, far more than you saw before, and you will find it applies to everything from video games, to hentai, to manga, to even a version in live movies outright marketed as porn... and thus going beyond even the west. This WAS all present before, it's just become far more common.

I for one do not consider this a good thing, but one thing to remember is that in Japan the people don't have the same rights and tools to actually fight against this that we have in the US, and as your seeing here even with some hard coded rights we've been losing this kind of censorship battle for a long time now. Free speech is not what it used to be, as we're seeing limitations placed on it so it's no longer free. Everything from "hate speech" (not the quotes) to sex is censored under the argument that it's offensive and makes certain people uncomfortable.

I will also say that from the trends I've been reading about one of the reasons there hasn't been as much resistance from Japanese creators right now is that it's become increasingly corporate (not that it wasn't before). Basically most are not content to produce anime the old way. They look at the global success across all forms of media by certain franchises like "One Piece", "Naruto", and "Dragonball Z" and how long those fandoms have remained, and everyone increasingly wants to try and have their version of that. They figure all ages family, cheaply produced, episodes they can dump in quantity are better than a unique, high quality, anime series that will run 13 to 26 episodes and conclude. You still see some of that, but you will notice in Japan as time is going on a lot of the art is looking more the same even between radically different audiences, the intensity of content is reduced, and there seems to be more dangling plot threads and such as they are seemingly doing almost everything in the hopes people will bite and they can turn it into the next uber-series. Since they are already doing low grade "all ages" stuff for the most part, there just isn't any reason to fight the crackdowns as they are affecting an increasingly small number of producers who aren't trying to chase the giant pie everyone else is increasingly focusing on. Likewise, where Japanese media used to have some deeply intellectual components, it has been being dumbed down for mass consumption even in Japan from what I can see, and really what were once offensive stereotypes about "Weeaboos" are increasingly becoming true of both the fan base and the media itself as let's just say there is a good amount of stuff out there I have a hard time defending at all, other than it seemed to be a formulaic global cash grab based on the worst kinds of stereotypes about the perceived audience.

[aristateles]

So to SONY, anime is dangerous. But not blood, gore, lesbian underage real people. Ahhhh it's the SONY USA doing, such classic.

[Denyal]

that's how Sony works. Game is out btw. just bought it

[erobotan]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1847329513

seems they have swimsuit too, nice! They're free right? since i don't see them in the DLC list