Reality engine and Metabits...

[Quantum Operator]

It seems to me the progression goes from steady to a total brick wall.
The first few buffs from the RE are fairly low in cost, and up till that progression seemed steady, each reset i would get farther, faster. But, once I hit costs of 100-1000+ metabits progression more or less stopped.

Leaving my comp running with auto clicker running 20clicks per sec, for 24 hours, my progression still has barely made a dent in the total I need.

What am I doing wrong here? Is there some sort of trick to farming metabits, or am I supposed to play this game for like 3 years to really start enjoying the RE..?

Any advice or insight would be great, thanks.

-ps

I played clicker heroes for like 5 years...

[Dinocanid]

It's not just you, I agree it needs some rebalancing to have a *steady* slope of progression, rather than a straight up wall.

[Quantum Operator]

I am hitting max clicks possible per frame per second, it pretty much seems like clicking is more or less useless as far as extra income goes, even with all the "cheap" metabit buffs... (although I do notice my metabit level going up faster when im auto clicking)

[alveolate]

autoclicker still raises your income/sec, according to the in-game display. it can go up anywhere from 3-10x your idle income.

that said, the game gets laggier and laggier when left open, and the clicks get interrupted by short stutters every minute or so. not sure if that's due to autosave or not, but it seems to get worse over time.

also, fully agree that progression is terrible after the first few metabit upgrades. the shops are also super underdeveloped, so you don't even have anything good to purchase with those darwin cubes. all you get is x2 income for 4h or double the income from offline earnings - no permanent boosts anywhere as far as i can see.

meanwhile, lots of annoying things, like no way to see reality engine buffs until you actually ascend, so you can't even check how many more bits u need to buy the next upgrade. it's just terrible UI.

i'm curious to see what evolutions are up there, but the poor design is making me wanna ragequit now.

[Zorz]

Originally posted by EpΩch:

Leaving my comp running with auto clicker running 20clicks per sec, for 24 hours, my progression still has barely made a dent in the total I need.

u use an external programm(cheat) or u mean the ingame autoclicker with 30minutes cooldown?

[Quantum Operator]

I have never heard of anyone calling an auto clicker, for a clicker game, a cheat before. And I have been playin clicker heroes and other clicker style games for like half a decade.

Every single clicker game I have ever played, and there are at least half a dozen i'd say, either flat out encourages automated clickers some even offer links to clickers they suggest, or else specifically do not have rules agaisnt them.

Some gaming mice and keyboards even have built in functions for this specific purpose.

Can you source me the ToS/EuLA lines that say using such a device is a cheat?

-e

Playing a game like this, or any of its genre without automation clicking, would take decades to complete... Also, tendinitis and carpletunnel, your poor wrists. :(

-e2

If this games devs consider it cheating, i will drop this game like a bad habbit and never look back.

[Zorz]

Originally posted by EpΩch:

I have never heard of anyone calling an auto clicker, for a clicker game, a cheat before. And I have been playin clicker heroes and other clicker style games for like half a decade.

Every single clicker game I have ever played, and there are at least half a dozen i'd say, either flat out encourages automated clickers some even offer links to clickers they suggest, or else specifically do not have rules agaisnt them.

Some gaming mice and keyboards even have built in functions for this specific purpose.

Can you source me the ToS/EuLA lines that say using such a device is a cheat?

-e

Playing a game like this, or any of its genre without automation clicking, would take decades to complete... Also, tendinitis and carpletunnel, your poor wrists. :(

-e2

If this games devs consider it cheating, i will drop this game like a bad habbit and never look back.

lol yeah, it's cheating bro..

u have an ingame autoclicker function which u can activate with cooldown.. for reasons.. ^^

and if u use hardware macro's to do this it's a hardware cheat..

idk macro's are allowed or not in this game and as long we don't have rankings in this game it's not importent for me what others do. but in the moment we get quest and rankings than u can call yourself a cheater if u reached top 10 with your software/hardware cheats..

also why i should play a CLICKER game if i don't CLICK by myself? oO it's like playing a shooter like CS:GO and let the aimbot shooting :D

[BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!"]

I think it will be solved when a dev will actively appear here on Steam discussions.
Then he/she will hear what is wrong with the game thus far and can patch the problems at bay.

I do agree to use an autoclicker if the game itself does not have any means to boost progression on a normal way and ESPECIALLY when you cannot leave the game running on the background for a longer time without having resource issues popping up because the game has serious RAM-leakage issues. (0.8MB to 1.2MB per click approx and when idle RAM gets overflowed within 5-7 hrs)

I repeat: When the devs are becoming active and make the the game fully good-to-go on a steady pace, considering can be done to ban autoclickers.
Until then, i agree to use them, since autoclicker program do not add illegal cash-shop currency, which IS cheating.
Btw: the autoclicker in-game is a joke considered the long hauls to make any progress.

[Zorz]

Originally posted by BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!":

I think it will be solved when a dev will actively appear here on Steam discussions.
Then he/she will hear what is wrong with the game thus far and can patch the problems at bay.

I do agree to use an autoclicker if the game itself does not have any means to boost progression on a normal way and ESPECIALLY when you cannot leave the game running on the background for a longer time without having resource issues popping up because the game has serious RAM-leakage issues. (0.8MB to 1.2MB per click approx and when idle RAM gets overflowed within 5-7 hrs)

I repeat: When the devs are becoming active and make the the game fully good-to-go on a steady pace, considering can be done to ban autoclickers.
Until then, i agree to use them, since autoclicker program do not add illegal cash-shop currency, which IS cheating.
Btw: the autoclicker in-game is a joke considered the long hauls to make any progress.

what u agree to or not agree to is uninteresting..

in the moment they add rankings to this game here and u can get permanent bonus added per month/season/week based on your rank in the month/season/week, than they have to bann such cheater or the game will die..

u have not seen clickers with rankings and and bonus based on ranks? if yes u are a noob and never really played clicker games.. ^^

also the game is released 2 weeks ago, so no need to bash devs and/or cheat in a new game ^^

[Quantum Operator]

Originally posted by Zorz:

lol yeah, it's cheating bro..

If you can't source me the TOS or EULA that states 3rd party programs and hardware that simulates mouse clicks is cheating, then you have no ground to stand on sir.

I can't imagine playing a clicker game without using an auto clicker for either auto clicking for resources, or auto clicking for upgrades.

I logged out last night with auto clicker on upgrading my best tech, and woke up with 80 more metabits. So All is not lost in terms of a timley progression.

How ever if anyone sources me a line of text in the EULA or TOS or a member of the dev team, or staff, if they have a staff, specifically states using automation software to simulate mouse clicks is cheating, I will delete my save and uninstall this game for life.

[Quantum Operator]

Originally posted by Zorz:

lol yeah, it's cheating bro..

If you can't source me the TOS or EULA that states 3rd party programs and hardware that simulates mouse clicks is cheating, then you have no ground to stand on sir.

I can't imagine playing a clicker game without using an auto clicker for either auto clicking for resources, or auto clicking for upgrades.

I logged out last night with auto clicker on upgrading my best tech, and woke up with 80 more metabits. So All is not lost in terms of a timley progression.

How ever if anyone sources me a line of text in the EULA or TOS or a member of the dev team, or staff, if they have a staff, that specifically states using automation software to simulate mouse clicks is cheating, I will delete my save and uninstall this game for life.

-e

Originally posted by Zorz:

Originally posted by BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!":

I think it will be solved when a dev will actively appear here on Steam discussions.
Then he/she will hear what is wrong with the game thus far and can patch the problems at bay.

I do agree to use an autoclicker if the game itself does not have any means to boost progression on a normal way and ESPECIALLY when you cannot leave the game running on the background for a longer time without having resource issues popping up because the game has serious RAM-leakage issues. (0.8MB to 1.2MB per click approx and when idle RAM gets overflowed within 5-7 hrs)

I repeat: When the devs are becoming active and make the the game fully good-to-go on a steady pace, considering can be done to ban autoclickers.
Until then, i agree to use them, since autoclicker program do not add illegal cash-shop currency, which IS cheating.
Btw: the autoclicker in-game is a joke considered the long hauls to make any progress.

what u agree to or not agree to is uninteresting..

in the moment they add rankings to this game here and u can get permanent bonus added per month/season/week based on your rank in the month/season/week, than they have to bann such cheater or the game will die..

u have not seen clickers with rankings and and bonus based on ranks? if yes u are a noob and never really played clicker games.. ^^

also the game is released 2 weeks ago, so no need to bash devs and/or cheat in a new game ^^

Everything you say is correct. If this game was multiplayer or had leader boards, there would be a problem with automation, because it's essentially botting, or using keystroke scripts to the same effect. That said, the save files are stored client side, so within a few days, maybe weeks, who knows, there will likely be save file editors and or trainers that people can use to give them selves what ever they want.

It happened to clicker heroes, it will happen to Cell to Singularity.

Also, the dev for clicker heroes gave me a DL link for an auto clicker when the game was still new. It was highly recommend players use it, otherwise they could develope severe injuries to their wrists, and never make any real progresion in the game.

[alveolate]

another moronic discussion of whether autoclickers are cheats. THAT'S what this turd of a game needs. unsubbed.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by alveolate:

another moronic discussion of whether autoclickers are cheats. THAT'S what this turd of a game needs. unsubbed.

Cool Story Bro.

This is not a turd of a game.

[Kaizo]

Rankings in this game xD What did ya smoke kid :D

[daemocles]

The game is easy enough without an auto clicker, even the metabits, I got all of the way through, without issue. Just prestige often.

[Marinzeck]

Hey. Believe me. The devs know ppls use auto clicker and they already set the progression assuming as such. All clicker games are the same. And I am not here defending the use of it....