why people say halo is a mindless shooter?

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

i always hear all the time that halo is a mindless shooter, i search on internet posts of people searching for mindless shooting, and people recommend halo for example, but i saw a lot of situation where i read that halo is apparently a mindless shooter... why? it's like one of the least mindless shooters i ever seen, in halo if you are not a mega pro you probably have to think and learn a lot, like it's a fun game sometimes relaxing... but not mindless, that's for sure, unless you play on lower difficulties but by playing on easy or normal you don't even play halo, you play a story with some gameplay segments pretty ok and forgettable, only on heroic or legendary you really PLAY halo... ... and it's totally not mindless... and now obviously you gonna say "you said that is mindless on lower difficulties, end of the thread"... but people generalize and say that halo in general is mindless, not just refering to the lower difficulties, and that is like insulting and misinformation... tell people who beat legendary for CE or halo 2 that is just mindless, yeah, literally finding right strategy and tactic simulator... i don't understand, im not stating or saying anything solid, im just asking... why?

[Aspen]

idk man sounds pretty gatekeep-ey

[rcf5089]

Usually play on too easy a setting.

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

Originally posted by Aspen:

idk man sounds pretty gatekeep-ey

maybe... but i always wanted to point out that thing about people calling it mindless, it always sound so weird to me... the thing that bother me the most, is that maybe halo is a mindless shooter, but the interesting part is how much people point that out, like it's so explicit, that is the weird thing... for example another fps... half life, half life can be a mindless shooter too, and it's more mindless than halo, but halo is called mindless way more, for example... it's weird to me...

[Snark]

Because people who say that haven't actually played the games.

[Entity]

Most Halo haters are really just console haters. They just can't admit that console games can be good.

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

Originally posted by Entity:

Most Halo haters are really just console haters. They just can't admit that console games can be good.

that is another thing (i think)... but it's totally true anyway

[GamerXT]

Originally posted by chrisvig71:

i always hear all the time that halo is a mindless shooter

From who ? Hearing that from 3 people isn't everyone.

And isn't all FPS games mindless then, unless they include puzzles like HL ?

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

Originally posted by GamerXT:

Originally posted by chrisvig71:

i always hear all the time that halo is a mindless shooter

From who ? Hearing that from 3 people isn't everyone.

And isn't all FPS games mindless then, unless they include puzzles like HL ?

i heard that a lot of times not just from 3 people trust me...
"And isn't all FPS games mindless then, unless they include puzzles like HL ?"
yeah exactly, that logic makes no sense... and also literally halo has battles that are all kind of a puzzle sometimes, in higher difficulty... in CE 90% of the battles against the covenant are puzzles on legendary...

[⍚MagusFromHeaven⍚]

If they really want a shooter that actually requires mind they should just go play the portal 2 and it's community-made stories.

[Tearless Gravy]

because when it came out, the only other shooters were very basic. and whoever shot first usually won. then halo comes along and you actually have to fight for a few seconds or even 30 seconds if its nasty. its takes wits. few games of halo feels like several games of cod as far as energy consumed mentally if you ask me. Unreal Tournament and doom still felt old school at the time. now there is 2 overwatch, cod has evolved heavily, unreal engine 5 is crazy capable, even Team fortress 2 is more interesting shooter by objective comparison. but i prefer halo because of how it 'Feels' even though it never really evolved from its 'ahead of its time' in the past.

[King Feraligatr]

Probably because the regenerating health/shields can take away from long term consequences, people can feel that the two weapon is limiting, the games are pretty linear, and more. Though I wouldn't call the games mindless. Not the pinnacle of requiring thought, but neither brainless.

[yayokay]

for me it's mostly hallways with horde stages

[Fastspectre]

Originally posted by Entity:

Most Halo haters are really just console haters. They just can't admit that console games can be good.

yes console games can be good, but pretty much only beat em ups, jump and runs and driving games
for all others the consoles would need to come with m&k, which they don't
so no m&k no good shoter just ok ones, no good rts just ok, no good rpg, just ok at best, if they made this games on console with m&k in mind they would be much better, like driving, jump and run and beat em ups on pc are made with controler in mind EZ...

[Entity]

Originally posted by Fastspectre:

Originally posted by Entity:

Most Halo haters are really just console haters. They just can't admit that console games can be good.

yes console games can be good, but pretty much only beat em ups, jump and runs and driving games
for all others the consoles would need to come with m&k, which they don't
so no m&k no good shoter just ok ones, no good rts just ok, no good rpg, just ok at best, if they made this games on console with m&k in mind they would be much better, like driving, jump and run and beat em ups on pc are made with controler in mind EZ...

pointless

[Snark]

Originally posted by Fastspectre:

Originally posted by Entity:

Most Halo haters are really just console haters. They just can't admit that console games can be good.

yes console games can be good, but pretty much only beat em ups, jump and runs and driving games
for all others the consoles would need to come with m&k, which they don't
so no m&k no good shoter just ok ones, no good rts just ok, no good rpg, just ok at best, if they made this games on console with m&k in mind they would be much better, like driving, jump and run and beat em ups on pc are made with controler in mind EZ...

Honestly Halo is a better fps than a lot of PC fps games and I grew up with mouse and keyboard.