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[Saladfingers]

They have killed speedrunning on Halo 2 with the season 8 update.

1. You fall slower
2. Butterflying is so much slower and harder now
3. There are no slide jumps anymore.

And this is the version of the game we will be stuck with now as they're abandoning MCC for Infinite.

[Oku]

Speedrunning isn't dead. If the motion mechanics are changed that much then if anything the speedrunning for Halo 2 will become even more intense as new categories will become set up for Season 8+ MCC specific Halo 2 over classic Halo 2, which means the opportunities for people to become record holders in the new category will see a frenzy of races and runners scrambling to optimize things on the current patch.

[Frank Knowhere]

WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Saladfingers]

You can always trust 343 to f things up.

Season 8 has been the worst update so far, they've ruined Halo 2 completely. The armour does not fit a Halo game at all. The F are they doing over at 343.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

You can always trust 343 to f things up.

Season 8 has been the worst update so far, they've ruined Halo 2 completely. The armour
does not fit a Halo game at all. The F are they doing over at 343.

The armor is fine and the complaining about it is nonsensical hysteria for the sake of being Angry At Video Games (tm).

[Saladfingers]

The armour does not fit a Halo game, if i were 343 i'd be more worried about them constantly breaking the game with their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ updates. They really need to learn coding at 343 because everytime they put out a update, they break the game.

I'm more angry at the fact that they broke Halo 2 completely. You can't do the classic gap jump on Regret anymore...You can't headglich some walls anymore because they changed the character model. Some sword flies don't work anymore either.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

The armour does not fit a Halo game, if i were 343 i'd be more worried about them constantly breaking the game with their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ updates. They really need to learn coding at 343 because everytime they put out a update, they break the game.

I'm more angry at the fact that they broke Halo 2 completely. You can't do the classic gap jump on Regret anymore...You can't headglich some walls anymore because they changed the character model. Some sword flies don't work anymore either.

"they broke halo 2 completely, here's a list of glitches they fixed."

I don't understand people's desire to come up with literally anything they can to justify being in a continuous outrage over computer games.

[Saladfingers]

They were all part of Halo 2 classic, so it's not really ''fixing'' anything, it's breaking the game at that point. Classic Halo 2 had super bounces, swordflies, head glitching, slide jumps. So i wouldn't be saying they have been fixing glitches lol, they just broke the game.

I understand that you multiplayer people think it's a good update because you got your armour and your customization, while us who mainly play the campaign get a completely broken Halo 2, it's almost unplayable now.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

They were all part of Halo 2 classic, so it's not really ''fixing'' anything, it's breaking the game at that point. Classic Halo 2 had super bounces, swordflies, head glitching, slide jumps. So i wouldn't be saying they have been fixing glitches lol, they just broke the game.

So they fixed bugs and glitches that Bungie left in the game.

It's not broken, you were just relying exclusively on exploiting bugs and glitches to play the game, and you can't do that anymore.

Your thread OP doesn't even have merit because as I said, the Speed Running community will be ecstatic over these changes because they'll result in new categories which means more opportunities for people to claim world records.

[Saladfingers]

You're wrong because the speedrunning community are just as pissed off as i am, the changes has changed speedrunning completely, You will never ever break the current solo world records in this update.

They were not glitches, slide jumping is not a glitch, super bounce is not a glitch, it's breaking the game so it gives you a super bounce so you don't fall off the map. Head glitching is literally just sticking your head in the wall so you don't get killed by enemies.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

You're wrong because the speedrunning community are just as pissed off as i am, the changes has changed speedrunning completely, You will never ever break the current solo world records in this update.

They were not glitches, slide jumping is not a glitch, super bounce is not a glitch, it's breaking the game so it gives you a super bounce so you don't fall off the map. Head glitching is literally just sticking your head in the wall so you don't get killed by enemies.

I'm friends with people who run it and one who's been on GDQ. Nobody is actually pissed aside from the small number of wannabe's that can't actually dream of even placing let alone hold a record or be featured anywhere because they can't just use tech other people discovered to show off to 5 other people.

Slide Jumping and Super Bounce were glitches, they were not intended game behavior. And you can't actually be seriously trying to tell me that being able to shove your head in a wall to avoid death was intended by Bungie lmao

[JesusRaves93]

Originally posted by Stock Image Snake:

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

You're wrong because the speedrunning community are just as pissed off as i am, the changes has changed speedrunning completely, You will never ever break the current solo world records in this update.

They were not glitches, slide jumping is not a glitch, super bounce is not a glitch, it's breaking the game so it gives you a super bounce so you don't fall off the map. Head glitching is literally just sticking your head in the wall so you don't get killed by enemies.

I'm friends with people who run it and one who's been on GDQ. Nobody is actually pissed aside from the small number of wannabe's that can't actually dream of even placing let alone hold a record or be featured anywhere because they can't just use tech other people discovered to show off to 5 other people.

Ah the classic succ 343 ballz trope

[Saladfingers]

Slide jumping is literally just jumping off a slide. Super bounce is literally just landing between geometry in the map so the game forces you to super bounce so you don't fall off the map. Bungie left them in because they improved the Halo 2 experience, 343 left them in aswell because they were part of the Halo 2 experience.

Bungie knew about all this stuff and left them in because they improved their game and made more people play them, 343 did the same thing. Now they just decided to kill the game before abandoning it for Infinite.

[GamerXT]

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

I understand that you multiplayer people think it's a good update because you got your armour and your customization, while us who mainly play the campaign get a completely broken Halo 2, it's almost unplayable now.

Games usually arnt made to factor speedrunners, you think Bunjie where thinking of speedrunners when creating Halo 2 ? Probably not.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Saladfingers:

Slide jumping is literally just jumping off a slide. Super bounce is literally just landing between geometry in the map so the game forces you to super bounce so you don't fall off the map. Bungie left them in because they improved the Halo 2 experience, 343 left them in aswell because they were part of the Halo 2 experience.

Bungie knew about all this stuff and left them in because they improved their game and made more people play them, 343 did the same thing. Now they just decided to kill the game before abandoning it for Infinite.

So glitches. And their removal was fixing those glitches.

Thank you for confirming that.

Originally posted by Jesusraves93:

Originally posted by Stock Image Snake:

I'm friends with people who run it and one who's been on GDQ. Nobody is actually pissed aside from the small number of wannabe's that can't actually dream of even placing let alone hold a record or be featured anywhere because they can't just use tech other people discovered to show off to 5 other people.

Ah the classic succ 343 ballz trope

ah the classic "game dev bad" trope

[JesusRaves93]

343 also just ruined their forging community for SOME as well and it doesn't matter because Halo Infinite is going to be Out soon and it's going to be SO GOOD. I get that getting pissy over 343 ruining for people who trusted them and whom were waiting for this update to release videos in a timely matter before any more attention is taken away from MCC is dumb.. I mean after all if I Had only used that technology to reach those 5 people. 343 and the community have changed not for the better or for the worse... they've just changed. There's a new captain aboard the ship and it's going in a direction away from SOME of us.. Don't know what else to say. So long Halo, 1 - 3 were Great and thanks for all the fish