Halo: The Master Chief Collection

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Uncle Jon May 18, 2020 @ 12:54pm
How did Buck become a Spartan?
I heard he became one in Halo 5, was he always a super soldier or did they turn him into one after the events of Halo ODST? I thought Spartan training requires you to start during when someone is a child?
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★ Darth Bacon ★ May 18, 2020 @ 12:57pm 
Buck is a Spartan IV, which consisted of adult volunteers. Kidnapping kids and turning them into spartans was Master Chiefs generation, but by the time of Halo 4, there were brand new spartans everywhere.
Pyrocitor May 18, 2020 @ 1:08pm 
S2s were kidnapped, S3 was mostly orphans, S4 was a fairly publicised program where adult soldiers could be augmented. It was a lot less invasive since iirc the 2nd Gen Armour handled much of the job.
He evolved
Like pokemon
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HeadPats May 18, 2020 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
He evolved
Like pokemon
Thanks, now I can't get that image out of my head.
Originally posted by Burger Slayer Orbstein:
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
He evolved
Like pokemon
Thanks, now I can't get that image out of my head.
Whos that pokemon
Also same goes for Keyes
Last edited by o-o-o-Tekno-Musang-o-o-o; May 18, 2020 @ 2:51pm
DonkeyBallZ May 18, 2020 @ 3:12pm 
To be honest I always hated Spartan IVs; Spartan IIs are the only real bad asses since as Halsey states the Children are more malleable and adaptive so the training and augmentations for farther. Like real ancient Spartans they were trained from birth for nothing but war.

The Spartan IIs I always thought of as more realistic Space Marines; super humans in a suit. Where the man inside the suit was the real technological marvel.

Spartan IVs are just average loser humans in a power ranger suit. The fact they get called Spartans and try to pass them off as the equals of the Spartans IIs in Halo 5 is really just an insult to the whole franchise. Why the hell would them getting better suits matter? The Spartan IIs could still wear to same 'improved' suits and be vastly superior since they were augmented and trained from early childhood.

But no, according to Halo 5 just getting better suits makes them the same. Wtf? I couldn't have imagined anything dumber. So apparently being trained and augmented from like 5 years old just doesn't count for sh1t and was a massive waste of time huh? Fck off 343.

One of the things that made Spartans believable is that they were barely human; on a social level they aren't human at all. They were war machines and sometimes described as psychopathic. But you know according to gay as hell Spartan IVs apparently any average loser can just up and become a Spartan some random ass day.

(realizing I need to make a thread about this lol)
Last edited by DonkeyBallZ; May 18, 2020 @ 3:13pm
Originally posted by laher102:
To be honest I always hated Spartan IVs; Spartan IIs are the only real bad asses since as Halsey states the Children are more malleable and adaptive so the training and augmentations for farther. Like real ancient Spartans they were trained from birth for nothing but war.

The Spartan IIs I always thought of as more realistic Space Marines; super humans in a suit. Where the man inside the suit was the real technological marvel.

Spartan IVs are just average loser humans in a power ranger suit. The fact they get called Spartans and try to pass them off as the equals of the Spartans IIs in Halo 5 is really just an insult to the whole franchise. Why the hell would them getting better suits matter? The Spartan IIs could still wear to same 'improved' suits and be vastly superior since they were augmented and trained from early childhood.

But no, according to Halo 5 just getting better suits makes them the same. Wtf? I couldn't have imagined anything dumber. So apparently being trained and augmented from like 5 years old just doesn't count for sh1t and was a massive waste of time huh? Fck off 343.

One of the things that made Spartans believable is that they were barely human; on a social level they aren't human at all. They were war machines and sometimes described as psychopathic. But you know according to gay as hell Spartan IVs apparently any average loser can just up and become a Spartan some random ass day.

(realizing I need to make a thread about this lol)
Spart IIIs is whos are real badasses - eliminating and being wiped in 90% occasions having so many drugs in them that none of your local diller can sell you in one go
zacharyb May 18, 2020 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
Originally posted by laher102:
To be honest I always hated Spartan IVs; Spartan IIs are the only real bad asses since as Halsey states the Children are more malleable and adaptive so the training and augmentations for farther. Like real ancient Spartans they were trained from birth for nothing but war.

The Spartan IIs I always thought of as more realistic Space Marines; super humans in a suit. Where the man inside the suit was the real technological marvel.

Spartan IVs are just average loser humans in a power ranger suit. The fact they get called Spartans and try to pass them off as the equals of the Spartans IIs in Halo 5 is really just an insult to the whole franchise. Why the hell would them getting better suits matter? The Spartan IIs could still wear to same 'improved' suits and be vastly superior since they were augmented and trained from early childhood.

But no, according to Halo 5 just getting better suits makes them the same. Wtf? I couldn't have imagined anything dumber. So apparently being trained and augmented from like 5 years old just doesn't count for sh1t and was a massive waste of time huh? Fck off 343.

One of the things that made Spartans believable is that they were barely human; on a social level they aren't human at all. They were war machines and sometimes described as psychopathic. But you know according to gay as hell Spartan IVs apparently any average loser can just up and become a Spartan some random ass day.

(realizing I need to make a thread about this lol)
Spart IIIs is whos are real badasses - eliminating and being wiped in 90% occasions having so many drugs in them that none of your local diller can sell you in one go

You forgot the part where they're basically sent on suicide missions.
Originally posted by zacharyb:
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
Spart IIIs is whos are real badasses - eliminating and being wiped in 90% occasions having so many drugs in them that none of your local diller can sell you in one go

You forgot the part where they're basically sent on suicide missions.
I meant it by part where they are wiped in 90% of cases
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DonkeyBallZ May 18, 2020 @ 3:51pm 


Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
Originally posted by zacharyb:

You forgot the part where they're basically sent on suicide missions.
I meant it by part where they are wiped in 90% of cases

This is why Spartan IIIs are not an issue; they were never presented in a way where they were supposed to be the equal of Spartan IIs the way Spartan IVs are. Spartan IIIs were a rushed 'light' version of a full fledged Spartan II with a focus on suicidal covert ops but they were always supposed to be inferior man for man compared to a Spartan II.
Last edited by DonkeyBallZ; May 18, 2020 @ 3:53pm
RICK 100 May 18, 2020 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
He evolved
Like pokemon
That explaination solved all
Originally posted by laher102:
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
I meant it by part where they are wiped in 90% of cases

This is why Spartan IIIs are not an issue; they were never presented in a way that they were supposed to be the equal of Spartan IIs the way Spartan IVs are. Spartan IIIs were a rushed 'light' version of a full fledged Spartan II with a focus on suicidal covert ops but they were always supposed to be inferior man for man compared to a Spartan II.
Noble Team is Spartan III
Also sending new out of training camp Thirds is so far one of the most stupid choices can do.
You can put them in place between UNSC marines and Spartan II as special squads with different specifications
Last edited by o-o-o-Tekno-Musang-o-o-o; May 18, 2020 @ 3:54pm
DonkeyBallZ May 18, 2020 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
Originally posted by laher102:

This is why Spartan IIIs are not an issue; they were never presented in a way that they were supposed to be the equal of Spartan IIs the way Spartan IVs are. Spartan IIIs were a rushed 'light' version of a full fledged Spartan II with a focus on suicidal covert ops but they were always supposed to be inferior man for man compared to a Spartan II.
Noble Team is Spartan III

Noble 6 and Jorge are Spartan IIs though.

This is kinda why the others die off so easily kinda to Covenant; because they are Spartan IIIs.

Jorge doesn't die to enemies at all but is forced to stay behind to activate a bomb manually on a ship.
Last edited by DonkeyBallZ; May 18, 2020 @ 3:57pm
Originally posted by laher102:
Originally posted by Foxit Youkai:
Noble Team is Spartan III

Noble 6 and Jorge are Spartan IIs though.
Source of 6 being spartan II ? Because Im like an idiot sitting here all sleepy, wanting to enjoy some more fun activities, trying to find info on it
Last edited by o-o-o-Tekno-Musang-o-o-o; May 18, 2020 @ 3:58pm
bigbenisdaman May 18, 2020 @ 3:58pm 
Spartans were needed, they couldn't afford the time bringing them in as kids. Juice em up, give em better armor than the OG spartans, they good to go.
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