How did Johnson survive the first game?

[BossMorris1]

In the end of the first game Cortana says they were the only ones who made it.
But in the second game Johnson looks better then ever.

[Merty]

Serious answer: Check out Halo: First Strike, it's a book but it's worth it. It explains what happened between Halo CE and Halo 2.

[Big John]

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In the end of the first game Cortana says they were the only ones who made it.
But in the second game Johnson looks better then ever.

Even if that's all you've got to go by, you could argue that a Longsword's scanners would be relatively short-range (and that Johnson went the other way in a ship), that the scanners were broken/malfunctioning, or that they just couldn't see anyone else through the radiation from the explosion. Him surviving is pretty much a retcon though.

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thats the first biggest question i have too, the second is in halo 3, chief activated the ring and so everyone within 20k light years distance died?? and the arbiter suddenly teleported to earth to have a farewell goodbyes to the humans while chief is still on the ship abandoned somewhere in space?? didnt they both escaped the ring in the last mission????????????

Pretty sure the Ark was in deep/dark space, and thus far from any other life. I think that they set off a mini-pulse (Correction, they fired it prematurely) to kill the Flood, which had gathered on the Ark to stop them from firing it in the first place. The Arbiter ended up on Earth because the ship that he and Master Chief traveled on went through the portal, but the portal was interrupted by the Ark ring firing, bisecting the ship and leaving MC in the butt end of nowhere. How did MC survive the ring firing? Well, plot armour would be my best guess.

Halo First Strike was released in December 2003, and states that Johnson and a few others survived the destruction of Installation 04. Halo 2 was released in November 2004. It was a planned story arc. At the end of the game, they were stuck on a long sword fighter, with no way to contact Earth or get to help. The game really only followed the Master Chief's story. There were quite a few humans on Halo-04. They would have been stranded there with no way off, since Pillar of Autumn crashed on the ring. Also, Foe Hammer was attempting to pick up the MC and Cortana at the end of the game, which means there had to be many more humans alive for logistics of picking him up and maintaining flight capabilities for Foe Hammer's pelican. To me, it's surprising that more humans were unable to make it off Halo-04. In the book, there was a significant number of human who left the ring in a stolen Covenant ship, but the CO was trying to take the flood form of Jenkins back to Earth. His first officer blew up the ship to make sure the flood never made it to Earth.

[Dic Tator]

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Halo First Strike was released in December 2003, and states that Johnson and a few others survived the destruction of Installation 04. Halo 2 was released in November 2004. It was a planned story arc. At the end of the game, they were stuck on a long sword fighter, with no way to contact Earth or get to help. The game really only followed the Master Chief's story. There were quite a few humans on Halo-04. They would have been stranded there with no way off, since Pillar of Autumn crashed on the ring. Also, Foe Hammer was attempting to pick up the MC and Cortana at the end of the game, which means there had to be many more humans alive for logistics of picking him up and maintaining flight capabilities for Foe Hammer's pelican. To me, it's surprising that more humans were unable to make it off Halo-04. In the book, there was a significant number of human who left the ring in a stolen Covenant ship, but the CO was trying to take the flood form of Jenkins back to Earth. His first officer blew up the ship to make sure the flood never made it to Earth.

You're not the first to mention Halo: First Strike. I should check it out; from what you're writing it sounds like an interesting read. Thanks!

[Big John]

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Halo First Strike was released in December 2003, and states that Johnson and a few others survived the destruction of Installation 04. Halo 2 was released in November 2004. It was a planned story arc. At the end of the game, they were stuck on a long sword fighter, with no way to contact Earth or get to help. The game really only followed the Master Chief's story. There were quite a few humans on Halo-04. They would have been stranded there with no way off, since Pillar of Autumn crashed on the ring. Also, Foe Hammer was attempting to pick up the MC and Cortana at the end of the game, which means there had to be many more humans alive for logistics of picking him up and maintaining flight capabilities for Foe Hammer's pelican. To me, it's surprising that more humans were unable to make it off Halo-04. In the book, there was a significant number of human who left the ring in a stolen Covenant ship, but the CO was trying to take the flood form of Jenkins back to Earth. His first officer blew up the ship to make sure the flood never made it to Earth.

You're not the first to mention Halo: First Strike. I should check it out; from what you're writing it sounds like an interesting read. Thanks!

I would recommend the original trio: The Fall of Reach (Spartan II origins and Reach, though it really conflicts with the game version), The Flood (which covers all of Halo 1 game and adds other unique content), and First Strike (which takes place from the end of Halo 1 until just a short time before Halo 2). The other novels are all over the place. Contact Harvest was boring as hell. Ghosts of Onyx is decent and fills in part of Dr. Halsey's story after First Strike. That is as far as I would go with recommendations until I finish re-reading them to my son who is young, but loves the stories.

[Cerazor]

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December 2003. That's what we in the business call "retcon".

first strike was not reconned

First Strike, and any other prereleased Novel that had any content relating to the Fall of Reach itself was Retconned when Reach came out. None of the Dates matched up, Events Contradict,
and there is even a bit of ♥♥♥♥ flung at First Strike in the campaign.

They had to release another Book to explain how the two interpretations can coexist after Fan outrage.

[Mistfox]

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Physics don't exist in Halo. Ships don't even have any visible means of keeping themselves in the air. The just hover somehow.

Star wars does the same thing, don't think about it.

Orrrr you just weren't paying that much attention to the plot and didn't realize that the ship broke into two halves, one with Chief and another with the Arbiter. Arbiter's half contained the engine and managed to return to Earth while Chief and Cortana barely made it out of the blast radius and kept floating in space until the mentioned help would arrive. What is there to not understand?

The other way round, the Chief's end had the engines while the Arbiter was in the cockpit and did a hard crash on Earth. Not that the engines even work anymore with them unconnected to anything.

[WeTheFearless]

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Sorry Guns, it's classified.

Hmph!?! My ass! Well you can forget about those adjustments to you A2 Scope, and your-

Well, he's in a particularly fine mood. Maybe Lord Hood didn't give him an invitation.

[What The Sigmar?]

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Halo: First Strike includes the story.

December 2003. That's what we in the business call "retcon".

Retconning is the name of the game when it comes to the Halo expanded universe.

Anyone ‘member when forerunners were actually an optimistic interpretation of humanity and not some bat-faced, god-killing, edgy eugenicists?

[What The Sigmar?]

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first strike was not reconned

First Strike, and any other prereleased Novel that had any content relating to the Fall of Reach itself was Retconned when Reach came out. None of the Dates matched up, Events Contradict,
and there is even a bit of ♥♥♥♥ flung at First Strike in the campaign.

They had to release another Book to explain how the two interpretations can coexist after Fan outrage.

Yep, Bungie themselves have gone on record as saying that they never wanted to have books and that game lore trumps any contradictions with the books, but the book lovers really didn’t like that.

For anyone who may scratch their heads at why Bungie would retcon their own story. The answer is that Fall of Reach never really was something they wanted. It was outsourced by Microshaft while CE was in development. All Halo books, for that matter, are not the works of Bungie’s writers, save for those by Staten, to my understanding.

[An Irate Walrus]

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December 2003. That's what we in the business call "retcon".

Retconning is the name of the game when it comes to the Halo expanded universe.

Anyone ‘member when forerunners were actually an optimistic interpretation of humanity and not some bat-faced, god-killing, edgy eugenicists?

Sure, I 'member!

[Corpulent Swine]

Because It's Johnson.

[Toe Cutter]

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thats the first biggest question i have too, the second is in halo 3, chief activated the ring and so everyone within 20k light years distance died?? and the arbiter suddenly teleported to earth to have a farewell goodbyes to the humans while chief is still on the ship abandoned somewhere in space?? didnt they both escaped the ring in the last mission????????????

Only half the Forward Unto Dawn made it through the wormhole. The half Arby was in.

[Pyrocitor]

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thats the first biggest question i have too, the second is in halo 3, chief activated the ring and so everyone within 20k light years distance died?? and the arbiter suddenly teleported to earth to have a farewell goodbyes to the humans while chief is still on the ship abandoned somewhere in space?? didnt they both escaped the ring in the last mission????????????

Only half the Forward Unto Dawn made it through the wormhole. The half Arby was in.

the front half made it through slipspace correctly, the rear half tumbled through on a different heading.

slipspace isn't instant, jumps take weeks.

[The Traveler]

Except the books my opinion they simply retcon the story. Johnson was to good and fan favorite character. Also his andwer to the tech guy simply shrug any real answer.

But about no one surviced Halo explosions seems false. Since Arbiter survived too with at least one ship.

[Big John]

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Only half the Forward Unto Dawn made it through the wormhole. The half Arby was in.

the front half made it through slipspace correctly, the rear half tumbled through on a different heading.

slipspace isn't instant, jumps take weeks.

It wasn't slip space that moved them between Earth and the Ark. The Ark is outside of the Milky Way galaxy and would have taken years to reach through normal slip space. The Halo firing on the Ark would have only killed anything within reach of the Ark. The ship was in almost though the wormhole when pulse caused it to collapse. The Arbiter made it through in the front. The rear fell out of the wormhole space into interstellar space. The same thing happens to objects in slip space when they are no longer power by the Shaw-Fujikawa FTL drive. They drop out of slip space and into normal space at the point of power loss, which is referenced in the books.

Perhaps Bungie never wanted the books, but the first three were done well and set up the later games. The first Halo story was fairly sloppy when it came to the background. Why did this one ship of humans end up at a ring world that was only just discovered? Are humans that terrible at exploring the surround galaxy? Any human sci-fi story always has humans exploring the stellar neighborhood. Why would an advanced human civilization not be exploring all potential stars that are within reach to search for life, resources, and potential planets for colonization? Why were humans so terrible when it comes to technology after 500 years? The guns are almost entirely projectile based, as they are today, and the cars and small fighters still burn fossil fuels? Why didn't human technology catch up with the covenant after 25 years of war? Why was the covenant so terrible at exterminating the humans? They were dominating humans in space and could glass entire planets. They should have been able to find Earth within years and glass it.

Bungie may have created a very good game, but their story writers were ♥♥♥♥!