Hardware bans for cheating

[Bvllzye]

So how effective are they i hear Apex Legends is doing hardware bans and i checked out a cheat site forum with people complaining about being banned on several accounts within 5 minutes of logging on. {LINK REMOVED}https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/apex-legends/ They want to find ways to get around it. It seems effective from reading the forums on that cheat site.

[Corpulent Swine]

The only fix is to build a new PC.

[󠁳⁧⁧n3r0t.]

Linking to uc on Steam
Good HWID spoofer aren't easy to make and you can hardly found them for free. So the chance of a large group of players having one is almost non existent.
Depending how the Anti Cheat deals with HWID ban have to be taken into consideration. If it checks for every parts of the PC, you can just change a cheap part of the PC. But if it use a more advanced technique it's harder to bypass the ban.

Hope I was clear.

[Fang]

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

Not entirely. The HWID is checked every time you start your OS. If a change is detected, a new HW ID is generated, so even if a single component is switched, you get a different HW ID.

Quote: "At every restart the operating system will generate another HWID number and compare it to the original to make sure that the operating system is still running on the same device."

Now I ASSUME it takes the HW ID generated by Windows. I don't know that for a fact.

It's effective though. A harsh anti-cheat system acts as a deterrent too. Afaik Apex's report function/anti-cheat isn't fully automated, because then you'd run the risk of wrongful bans, so I fully support the idea.

[Pyrocitor]

Originally posted by nrt.exe:

Linking to uc on Steam :lol:
Good HWID spoofer aren't easy to make and you can hardly found them for free. So the chance of a large group of players having one is almost non existent.
Depending how the Anti Cheat deals with HWID ban have to be taken into consideration. If it checks for every parts of the PC, you can just change a cheap part of the PC. But if it use a more advanced technique it's harder to bypass the ban.

Hope I was clear.

I'm assuming Microsoft are going to be using their own TruePlay anticheat.
It's built into windows 10 at the OS level.

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

Originally posted by Pyrocitor:

Originally posted by nrt.exe:

Linking to uc on Steam
Good HWID spoofer aren't easy to make and you can hardly found them for free. So the chance of a large group of players having one is almost non existent.
Depending how the Anti Cheat deals with HWID ban have to be taken into consideration. If it checks for every parts of the PC, you can just change a cheap part of the PC. But if it use a more advanced technique it's harder to bypass the ban.

Hope I was clear.

I'm assuming Microsoft are going to be using their own TruePlay anticheat.
It's built into windows 10 at the OS level.

This is why this game will be so effective, OS is where you can control things with a much tighter integrity.

[Bvllzye]

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

good, if more devs started implementing hardware bans wouldnt it ruin things for players who buy used PC parts

[roflBeck]

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

Well, it's actually spoofing a new MAC address or buying a new network card.

[Pyrocitor]

Originally posted by roflBeck:

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

Well, it's actually spoofing a new MAC address or buying a new network card.

TruePlay is actually inside windows, it's not just pinging your MAC.
They put trueplay into win10 last year, I'd be surprised if they don't use.

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

Originally posted by roflBeck:

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

Well, it's actually spoofing a new MAC address or buying a new network card.

Erm no, Win10 doesn't look at your network card, it checks ids of Mobo and other devices, change it too often and you could lose your ability to use Win10 license.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change

[roflBeck]

Trueplay huh? Well that sounds good! If the anticheat is in our OS, that gives me high hopes for keeping cheaters out.

[Bvllzye]

I hope all the cheaters get caught in every game out there and hardware banned

[Krythic]

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

Not build a new PC. If they're just SHA256ing your hardware, then all you would need to do is swap out a graphics card and you would be good to go. I don't believe in cheating though, it's only something degenerates do. That's why I stopped playing CS GO, because all it is is degenerates circle jerking with aimbot, and wall hacks. Stuff is not fun at all.

[Krythic]

Originally posted by iTz Bullz i:

Originally posted by Prophet of Redemption:

The only fix is to build a new PC.

good, if more devs started implementing hardware bans wouldnt it ruin things for players who buy used PC parts

Not if the bans are temporary. Reset them after a year or so.

[unconnected]

Depends on what the anti-cheat detects... for example, EAC/BE HWID bans are pretty effective in Rust, PUBG, but some smart people make HWID spoofers for those that sell around a few hundred dollars and require like an invite to even buy it.

[Bvllzye]

Originally posted by crksmok:

Depends on what the anti-cheat detects... for example, EAC/BE HWID bans are pretty effective in Rust, PUBG, but some smart people make HWID spoofers for those that sell around a few hundred dollars and require like an invite to even buy it.

idk people in cheat sites were saying spoofers didnt work and they got banned within 30 minutes on new accounts. I was reading posts under apex legends since they are doing hardware bans.