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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 10:53am
H2 Sword Flying no longer working?
Casual speedrunner here, first time back since they released ODST and noticed that despite using critical timing and testing the inputs on a macro (to make sure I wasn't just slow), that flying doesn't seem to work anymore?

Checked the release notes for hints of any patching but I thought 343 kept flying in the campaign for speedrunners. Did that change suddenly?

If anyone is able to sword fly still, let me know. I am aware that I could be out of timing, but I kinda doubt that just based off macro testing.
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Pesuto Oct 7, 2020 @ 11:45am 
Back when I played Halo 2 on Xbox One with a buddy of mine, I was able to do it. Even with Anniversary toggled on. I haven't tried it during my recent PC playthrough, and the console playthrough is at least two-ish years ago, so take my post with a grain of salt.

TL;DR: it should work, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't.
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Exodus Oct 7, 2020 @ 12:53pm 
Halo 2 on MCC is 60 tickrate you can change it but you need cheat engine

You can still nail flies the timing is twice as quick due to double the tickrate. FPS does seem to have an effect on swordflies as they can induce input lag. Even with precise timing and a macro it will not be 100% consistent.
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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 1:06pm 
This has to be recent, cuz I played the day before ODST and was able to sword fly, then I come back just today and it doesn't seem to catch anymore.

I've changed no settings anywhere, and I am locked to 60fps (Older PC).

I double-checked the macro and it does do everything at the right time, and even clipped a few attempts and slowed it down in premier.

It seems the Sword reticle doesn't stay red on the switch. I've only got 3 different instances of this and maybe the game tickrate got sped up somewhere, but yeah. I can't swordfly anymore. Even went back to a controller just to try it and it still won't go. Been testing it on as many levels as possible.

As for consistency, even manually I was getting a 9/10 success rate, Macro was maybe 6/10. I've been standing in one spot trying to sword fly off an elite for 20 minutes straight. Even a terrible macro would have gotten it at least once by now.
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Exodus Oct 7, 2020 @ 1:20pm 
I just peek tested it and the swordlfies are working as intended.

Try only binding the action and weapon switch key together with a macro and see if it work as it'll narrow the time frame you can work with as the trigger timing is the most crucial so manually doing it without worrying about an extra key will see if it's a timing error.

Maybe the controller got bugged out? I tested it on keyboard it seems to work fine.
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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Exodus:
I just peek tested it and the swordlfies are working as intended.

Try only binding the action and weapon switch key together with a macro and see if it work as it'll narrow the time frame you can work with as the trigger timing is the most crucial so manually doing it without worrying about an extra key will see if it's a timing error.

Maybe the controller got bugged out? I tested it on keyboard it seems to work fine.


Been running off a very tight macro all day today and still can't get a fly. Even tried with a different controller, and manually doing it on keyboard. Still nothing.

This only makes it more confusing now...
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Exodus Oct 7, 2020 @ 1:48pm 
Yeah that's very weird I can swordfly fine I'm running borderless at 60 fps cap if that helps. I'll try tommorow on a controller as well.

I'm curious what the issue could be i'm in the dark as well.
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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by Exodus:
Yeah that's very weird I can swordfly fine I'm running borderless at 60 fps cap if that helps. I'll try tommorow on a controller as well.

I'm curious what the issue could be i'm in the dark as well.


Alright, finally got a sword fly off...

However it's much less consistent than it seemed to be prior which is odd since again, none of my settings or the working macro had changed at any point. I think the fine timing somewhere is different for some reason.

I'm very firm on this because I had been running a swordfly macro ever since H2 hit the PC and it worked very well, very often. Then to come back and have it not work even after 20 minutes of trying is very very strange. I'm working with the macro timing a bit to see if it's on the switch or the lunge.
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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 3:01pm 
So it does work, but extremely inconsistent bordering on near impossible now. No idea why, but any assistance into this would be welcome for setting up new macros and such.
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Crazy Jim Oct 7, 2020 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by Madcat529:
So it does work, but extremely inconsistent bordering on near impossible now. No idea why, but any assistance into this would be welcome for setting up new macros and such.
The switching weapon and lunging I've always had an issue with. The attack+reload combo still seems to work for me.
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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Jimothy:
Originally posted by Madcat529:
So it does work, but extremely inconsistent bordering on near impossible now. No idea why, but any assistance into this would be welcome for setting up new macros and such.
The switching weapon and lunging I've always had an issue with. The attack+reload combo still seems to work for me.


Sword Cancelling? Yeah those work fine and smooth. I'm just baffled how a Macro that worked since H2 PC Release suddenly stops working and no amount of messing with the timing seems to help correct it.

also doesn't help my patience for these types of things is the size of an ant.
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xmat123x Oct 7, 2020 @ 5:01pm 
Unrelated but 343 banned most macro software, which one are you using? Does it not trip the anti-cheat?
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Madcat529 Oct 7, 2020 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by xmat123x:
Unrelated but 343 banned most macro software, which one are you using? Does it not trip the anti-cheat?

I'm only using it in campaign. I turn it off for MP. So no, it doesn't trip anything. And it's older Razer Synapse
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Exodus Oct 7, 2020 @ 11:49pm 
EAC only trips with AHK afaik otherwise the macros that come with synapse/ICUE still work since they aren't technically "illegitimate software"

The timing I use for my macro is

Q hold/release 0.03
R hold release 0.03
Right click hold/release 0.03

The first keeps can be set to 0.02 but it's more inconsistent for me so I use this.
Last edited by Exodus; Oct 7, 2020 @ 11:49pm
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Madcat529 Oct 8, 2020 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by Exodus:
EAC only trips with AHK afaik otherwise the macros that come with synapse/ICUE still work since they aren't technically "illegitimate software"

The timing I use for my macro is

Q hold/release 0.03
R hold release 0.03
Right click hold/release 0.03

The first keeps can be set to 0.02 but it's more inconsistent for me so I use this.


I'm gonna give this a try today. I've been running a 0.014, 0.014, 0.015 (Q,R,Fire) and this is the macro that "broke".
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Torean Oct 10, 2020 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Madcat529:
Originally posted by Exodus:
EAC only trips with AHK afaik otherwise the macros that come with synapse/ICUE still work since they aren't technically "illegitimate software"

The timing I use for my macro is

Q hold/release 0.03
R hold release 0.03
Right click hold/release 0.03

The first keeps can be set to 0.02 but it's more inconsistent for me so I use this.


I'm gonna give this a try today. I've been running a 0.014, 0.014, 0.015 (Q,R,Fire) and this is the macro that "broke".

Have you gotten it to work consistently?
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