Halo 3 was great... until the Flood

[WarToad]

Good lord. A great campaign up until the last 3/4 or so. Why oh why did they insist on shoving the Flood down our throats throughout this series-

Those last few levels really brought down the whole experience. Up until then it was really solid. And the 'final boss' was pretty lame as well. At least there was a pretty good Warthog run at the very end.

So far I'd say Reach has been the most consistent, with no flat-out terrible levels. Looking forward to ODST.

[adeviouskorean]

引用自 Shun The Witch：

引用自 bison42109：

and on a halo ring theirs always flood! (except halo 4)

4 wasnt on a ring, it was on a "shield world" and a couple random space stations.

ok
Its just been a while since I played that game

[Mordy]

引用自 Filthy Acts at Reasonable Prices：

Seems like every time the flood appear, The quality takes a dip

That's debatable.

Personally, i feel the series as a whole took a dip with Halo 3, the quality just feels like it took a nosedive off a cliff, the Flood be damned.. at least they made some sense, rest of the game not so much.

[NoShotz]

引用自 Mordy：

引用自 Filthy Acts at Reasonable Prices：

Seems like every time the flood appear, The quality takes a dip

That's debatable.

Personally, i feel the series as a whole took a dip with Halo 3, the quality just feels like it took a nosedive off a cliff, the Flood be damned.. at least they made some sense, rest of the game not so much. :nay:

Nah, 3 wasn't where it took a dip, it took a dip with halo 4.

[ShunTheWitch]

引用自 NoShotz：

引用自 Mordy：

That's debatable.

Personally, i feel the series as a whole took a dip with Halo 3, the quality just feels like it took a nosedive off a cliff, the Flood be damned.. at least they made some sense, rest of the game not so much. :nay:

Nah, 3 wasn't where it took a dip, it took a dip with halo 4.

games took a dip when they stopped revolving around the rings and the threat of the flood, 3 only had one thing that made me scratch my head and thats the very last mission, how the ring firing would destroy the flood or stop them from leaving the ark, because the entirety of the series had stated the rings dont kill the flood, they kill anything with a nervous system, and its implied that for pure forms and the gravemind they dont *have* a nervous system like we do. In various mentions it said the rings only kill "their food" which would imply that it doesnt simply kill everything with a nervous system, but only things not made of the flood supercells

[NoShotz]

引用自 Shun The Witch：

引用自 NoShotz：

Nah, 3 wasn't where it took a dip, it took a dip with halo 4.

games took a dip when they stopped revolving around the rings and the threat of the flood, 3 only had one thing that made me scratch my head and thats the very last mission, how the ring firing would destroy the flood or stop them from leaving the ark, because the entirety of the series had stated the rings dont kill the flood, they kill anything with a nervous system, and its implied that for pure forms and the gravemind they dont *have* a nervous system like we do. In various mentions it said the rings only kill "their food" which would imply that it doesnt simply kill everything with a nervous system, but only things not made of the flood supercells

The flood take other bodies as hosts, and they can only take things with nervous systems as hosts, the rings destroy the nervous system of the host, not the flood.

[ShunTheWitch]

引用自 NoShotz：

引用自 Shun The Witch：

games took a dip when they stopped revolving around the rings and the threat of the flood, 3 only had one thing that made me scratch my head and thats the very last mission, how the ring firing would destroy the flood or stop them from leaving the ark, because the entirety of the series had stated the rings dont kill the flood, they kill anything with a nervous system, and its implied that for pure forms and the gravemind they dont *have* a nervous system like we do. In various mentions it said the rings only kill "their food" which would imply that it doesnt simply kill everything with a nervous system, but only things not made of the flood supercells

The flood take other bodies as hosts, and they can only take things with nervous systems as hosts, the rings destroy the nervous system of the host, not the flood.

I'm aware, what doesnt make sense is that it implies that the gravemind is either not alive anymore, or theres only infection forms, if the gravemind, and by extension pure forms as they are also entirely made of flood supercell biomass, this does include infection forms, are still alive they could easily pilot one of the random phantoms or various ships likely on the surface, or worse *repair them* because the gravemind retains all information from the beings it has taken control of, even if the host that contained that information dies or if the gravemind dies it is then passed to the next.

[🖤Lyra🖤]

I personally love that bungie added the flood into the halo franchise

[NoShotz]

引用自 Shun The Witch：

引用自 NoShotz：

The flood take other bodies as hosts, and they can only take things with nervous systems as hosts, the rings destroy the nervous system of the host, not the flood.

I'm aware, what doesnt make sense is that it implies that the gravemind is either not alive anymore, or theres only infection forms, if the gravemind, and by extension pure forms as they are also entirely made of flood supercell biomass, this does include infection forms, are still alive they could easily pilot one of the random phantoms or various ships likely on the surface, or worse *repair them* because the gravemind retains all information from the beings it has taken control of, even if the host that contained that information dies or if the gravemind dies it is then passed to the next.

The flood didn't fully die at the end of Halo 3, they appear on the ark in Halo Wars 2's flood DLC. Also you have to remember that the halo that the gravemind was on at the end of Halo 3 didn't just fire, it also exploded after firing due to it being incomplete.

The flood that did survive were put in containment by sentinels

In December 2552, three days after the Human-Covenant War ended, monitor 000 Tragic Solitude had a containment shield set up around the ruins of High Charity to contain the Flood that had survived the detonation of the city's reactors and the firing of Installation 08.

[ShunTheWitch]

引用自 NoShotz：

引用自 Shun The Witch：

I'm aware, what doesnt make sense is that it implies that the gravemind is either not alive anymore, or theres only infection forms, if the gravemind, and by extension pure forms as they are also entirely made of flood supercell biomass, this does include infection forms, are still alive they could easily pilot one of the random phantoms or various ships likely on the surface, or worse *repair them* because the gravemind retains all information from the beings it has taken control of, even if the host that contained that information dies or if the gravemind dies it is then passed to the next.

The flood didn't fully die at the end of Halo 3, they appear on the ark in Halo Wars 2's flood DLC. Also you have to remember that the halo that the gravemind was on at the end of Halo 3 didn't just fire, it also exploded after firing due to it being incomplete.

The flood that did survive were put in containment by sentinels

In December 2552, three days after the Human-Covenant War ended, monitor 000 Tragic Solitude had a containment shield set up around the ruins of High Charity to contain the Flood that had survived the detonation of the city's reactors and the firing of Installation 08.

We also have to remember that *hw2* is 343 lore, which I have to consider separate or atleast on its own deal
The gravemind was never menitoned to have been on the ring itself as well you have to remember, he was likely still in high charity which was just crashed on the surface of the ark, which if we want to consider hw2 lore *was not* destroyed so that still means that if flood pureforms which includes infection forms survive a ring firing that would mean that the entirety of the gravemind survived and is just somewhere in high charity unless he moved on to a deeper part of the ark

[NoShotz]

引用自 Shun The Witch：

引用自 NoShotz：

The flood didn't fully die at the end of Halo 3, they appear on the ark in Halo Wars 2's flood DLC. Also you have to remember that the halo that the gravemind was on at the end of Halo 3 didn't just fire, it also exploded after firing due to it being incomplete.

The flood that did survive were put in containment by sentinels

We also have to remember that *hw2* is 343 lore, which I have to consider separate or atleast on its own deal
The gravemind was never menitoned to have been on the ring itself as well you have to remember, he was likely still in high charity which was just crashed on the surface of the ark, which if we want to consider hw2 lore *was not* destroyed so that still means that if flood pureforms which includes infection forms survive a ring firing that would mean that the entirety of the gravemind survived and is just somewhere in high charity unless he moved on to a deeper part of the ark

cortana specifically says that the gravemind is trying to rebuild himself on the ring, watch this video from the timestamp linked for about a 20 seconds, https://youtu.be/VjoaoWKnQIw?t=338

[ShunTheWitch]

This changes nothing, yes he was "trying" to rebuild himself yet he was not only formed enough to make tentacles, something that would have required pure biomass, more than enough to simply make a proto, so he *had* to have been fully formed by the end since if he had only been in a proto gravemind state he would not have had the mass or capacity to speak to you or form massive, potentially planet spanning tentacles

[ShunTheWitch]

Additionally, pure forms, have been stated to *need* a fully functional gravemind, that means that he was fully there and developed, at worst cortana liked only means that he took damage during high charity's crash
Pure forms such as the creeper, ranged, or tank cannot be formed without a gravemind.

[HobbyistGuy]

I'd rather fight the flood over fighting prometheans. An if they don't have flood in infinite even though by 343i lore the ring you end up on in the game is the very ring that not only the last precursor was on at one point doing flood experiments but also mendicate bias as well and we just going to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fighting covies, correction "Banished" again I'm just done with Halo in it's entirety. I'm sorry the only difference between covenant and these new factions is leadership. So the only real change is the name so to me we are still fighting covenant. I'm tired of just fighting covenant and prometheans were dumb af so I just want the flood back in the picture to shake things up again. Also brutes are the least interesting species in Halo in my personal opinion so not thrilled to fight a brute lead faction.

[Pyrocitor]

引用自 Shun The Witch：

引用自 NoShotz：

The flood didn't fully die at the end of Halo 3, they appear on the ark in Halo Wars 2's flood DLC. Also you have to remember that the halo that the gravemind was on at the end of Halo 3 didn't just fire, it also exploded after firing due to it being incomplete.

The flood that did survive were put in containment by sentinels

We also have to remember that *hw2* is 343 lore, which I have to consider separate or atleast on its own deal
The gravemind was never menitoned to have been on the ring itself as well you have to remember, he was likely still in high charity which was just crashed on the surface of the ark, which if we want to consider hw2 lore *was not* destroyed so that still means that if flood pureforms which includes infection forms survive a ring firing that would mean that the entirety of the gravemind survived and is just somewhere in high charity unless he moved on to a deeper part of the ark

It wasn't confirmed if the ring at the end of 3 actually fired properly, or misfired and basically just nuked The Ark and what was left of High Charity in an incomplete pulse. What we already knew is that Installation 04B / 08 was not ready to actually fire properly, that much was confirmed by Guilty Spark.

[ShunTheWitch]

引用自 Pyrocitor：

引用自 Shun The Witch：

We also have to remember that *hw2* is 343 lore, which I have to consider separate or atleast on its own deal
The gravemind was never menitoned to have been on the ring itself as well you have to remember, he was likely still in high charity which was just crashed on the surface of the ark, which if we want to consider hw2 lore *was not* destroyed so that still means that if flood pureforms which includes infection forms survive a ring firing that would mean that the entirety of the gravemind survived and is just somewhere in high charity unless he moved on to a deeper part of the ark

It wasn't confirmed if the ring at the end of 3 actually fired properly, or misfired and basically just nuked the ark in an incomplete pulse. What we already knew is that Installation 04B / 08 was not ready to actually fire properly, that much was confirmed by Guilty Spark.

Yeah that part isnt debated the only part that is would be if the gravemind should have survived or not, if hw2 isnt taken into consideration, its entirely reasonable to assume the gravemind is dead and space dust