Halo: The Master Chief Collection

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Biscuit 2020 年 6 月 10 日 下午 11:28
Did you people have fun with the flood?
I might be in the minority when I say that flood ruined CEA for me and now they popped up in 2A as well. I don't understand how it is fun to shoot mag after mag into something that won't go down and when they do go, they don't stay down. I understand that this is supposed to be challenging but tbh, even tho I'm not an RE fan I had more fun shooting respawning zombies with limited ammo in resident evil.
I know shotgun and sentinel beams are best in halo 2A against the flood but that does not console me. For some reason it just feels too boring and hard(odd combination i know). Covenant were so much fun. In spite of all the shielded brutes and bs hunters I liked Reach campaign best because there was no flood.
Sure, there was some excitement when I first saw the flood's entry into the game in CEA....buuuut...ehh not fun, not one bit ever since.

In CEA, monitor tells chief that his weapons are unsuitable for fighting the flood but I had no idea how much worse the covenant weapons were going to be when playing as the arbiter. Wet mashed potato launcher is an understatement
最後修改者:Biscuit; 2020 年 6 月 10 日 下午 11:32
引用自 Citizen Fish:
it really shouldnt be *that* bad with arbiter - carbines are fairly common (although human combat forms are very very difficult to instakill with precision weapons because of their breastplate thing), and energy swords can be picked up quite readily.

Oracle - you can grab a sword off the Spec Ops Leader before the elevator down to the flood room. In the flood room you can also grab an energy sword off of flood combat forms (for some reason the flood combat forms don't actually do much with the sword so they are not that bad of a threat). When the Heretic Leader locks himself inside you can, once again, grab an energy sword off of the Spec Ops Leader. IIRC, there is also another spare sword in the section where you cut the cables. Afterwards, all flood fights are optional as you can just cloak and run past.

Sacred Icon - this one is understandable because the energy swords dont start appearing until you are almost at the outside section with the allied elites. even so, you have access to abundant sentinel beams and also shotguns which will tide you over until you find a sword.

Quarantine Zone - most of the map is a vehicle section, and you have elite allies to help you fightt off the flood. not really an issue - and if you picked up a sword in Sacred Icon, it carries over. Not to mention there are many opportunities to find swords throughout the level.
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Machiavelli 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 4:19 
Yes. Flood made the game more interesting other than just Covenant. I prefer Flood over stupid prometheans in Halo 4/5.
DirtyStu 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 5:01 
Halo CE: shot gun, rockets and pistol are the best for the flood, you can easily head shot them, but you have to look at them carefully to see the head
Halo 2: Sword, Sword, Sword. head shots are also the same as on CE
Biscuit 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 5:02 
引用自 DirtyStu
Halo CE: shot gun, rockets and pistol are the best for the flood, you can easily head shot them, but you have to look at them carefully to see the head
Halo 2: Sword, Sword, Sword. head shots are also the same as on CE
I used magnum in 2A to headshot but that thing is garbage. While playing as arbiter the only precision weapons I found were magnum and carbine
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Citizen Fish 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 5:18 
it really shouldnt be *that* bad with arbiter - carbines are fairly common (although human combat forms are very very difficult to instakill with precision weapons because of their breastplate thing), and energy swords can be picked up quite readily.

Oracle - you can grab a sword off the Spec Ops Leader before the elevator down to the flood room. In the flood room you can also grab an energy sword off of flood combat forms (for some reason the flood combat forms don't actually do much with the sword so they are not that bad of a threat). When the Heretic Leader locks himself inside you can, once again, grab an energy sword off of the Spec Ops Leader. IIRC, there is also another spare sword in the section where you cut the cables. Afterwards, all flood fights are optional as you can just cloak and run past.

Sacred Icon - this one is understandable because the energy swords dont start appearing until you are almost at the outside section with the allied elites. even so, you have access to abundant sentinel beams and also shotguns which will tide you over until you find a sword.

Quarantine Zone - most of the map is a vehicle section, and you have elite allies to help you fightt off the flood. not really an issue - and if you picked up a sword in Sacred Icon, it carries over. Not to mention there are many opportunities to find swords throughout the level.
Biscuit 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 6:02 
引用自 Citizen Fish
it really shouldnt be *that* bad with arbiter - carbines are fairly common (although human combat forms are very very difficult to instakill with precision weapons because of their breastplate thing), and energy swords can be picked up quite readily.

Oracle - you can grab a sword off the Spec Ops Leader before the elevator down to the flood room. In the flood room you can also grab an energy sword off of flood combat forms (for some reason the flood combat forms don't actually do much with the sword so they are not that bad of a threat). When the Heretic Leader locks himself inside you can, once again, grab an energy sword off of the Spec Ops Leader. IIRC, there is also another spare sword in the section where you cut the cables. Afterwards, all flood fights are optional as you can just cloak and run past.

Sacred Icon - this one is understandable because the energy swords dont start appearing until you are almost at the outside section with the allied elites. even so, you have access to abundant sentinel beams and also shotguns which will tide you over until you find a sword.

Quarantine Zone - most of the map is a vehicle section, and you have elite allies to help you fightt off the flood. not really an issue - and if you picked up a sword in Sacred Icon, it carries over. Not to mention there are many opportunities to find swords throughout the level.
ok i am at sacred icon right now. Using shotgun and beams but still die on Normal.Guess I just have to get better. Thanks
DragonCurse4 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 10:45 
引用自 Biscuit
引用自 DirtyStu
Halo CE: shot gun, rockets and pistol are the best for the flood, you can easily head shot them, but you have to look at them carefully to see the head
Halo 2: Sword, Sword, Sword. head shots are also the same as on CE
I used magnum in 2A to headshot but that thing is garbage.
Well that's your first mistake. :P The Flood's "headshot" region is their chest. Actually shooting them in their head does barely any damage. The magnum though got a massive nerf in the second game. Whereas it would only take 1 magnum round in the chest to down a Flood in CE, it's gonna take a few more rounds in 2 to do that.

Also if you don't want the Flood to get back up again, you can destroy the bodies in Halo 2 (and 3) to prevent that from happening (one swipe of a sword takes care of that pretty well).
最後修改者:DragonCurse4; 2020 年 6 月 11 日 下午 12:06
Exodus 2020 年 6 月 11 日 上午 11:16 
The flood imo is a good way to seperate skill ceiling and how readily players can adapt to playing differently.

Fighting the flood is fun because level's aren't constricting you to specific strategies. It feels expansive and fun.
Preacher Jonson 2020 年 6 月 11 日 下午 1:35 
I'm playing through for the first time in years on Heroic and their levels have been the most challenging so far. Part of what makes them enjoyable is how relentless they are, towards the end of the game you're nearly always under attack and unlike the Covenant, you can't just break and hunt them down.

Without the Flood the story wouldn't be half as good as it turned out to be and from a game play perspective it makes it that more interesting because you can't use your usual tactics on the Flood anywhere near as well as you can the Covenant. Helps keep it fresh.
Cooperal 2020 年 6 月 11 日 下午 2:55 
I tried to make the most out of the Flood. I played through legendary on all of the PC collection so far and one thing I'm noticing is that the Flood generally make the games easier. And on legendary that means more freeform gameplay.

This is true for all sorts of reasons in CE. No shields and dumb movement make any weapon viable as long as you have the ammo. They always seem to go for the much more threatening Covenant instead of you in a three way fight, allowing for free shots.
The few that have snipers and rockets are quite easy to pick out from a crowd and there's rarely a reason why it ever has to be more complicated than taking them out the instant you see them.
In addition to most weapons having improved purpose you also get the shotgun at a similar time to when they appear which can also one shot combat forms from an unexpectedly safe range. You can quite easily get three for two if you manage the spread properly too.

They are much more of a threat on Halo 2s legendary difficulty (but what isn't). They move faster, take more damage across the board, reanimate corpses, use vehicles, have shields (if they are elites), have a greater number that are using weapons etc.
However they still make the game easier through the simple virtue that they don't throw anywhere near as much BS at you compared to the Covenant. They still aren't as trigger-happy (and can still be dismembered), they don't dodge, they barely (or never?) snipe, they don't float above your head. You can even survive a melee from human combat forms under optimal conditions.
The Covenant have plenty of enemies who will merc you for leaving your cover faster than you say "impatience". But when it comes to the Flood overwhelming you, you have a much more realistic chance of running right past without a plan.
Limygeorge 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 6:10 
Anyone, can you confirm or comment on this:

I have found that the sniper rifle is useless against the flood. The head - useless. The body, not 100% sure as I always aim for the head, but no doubt I have hit the body before.

Bottom line: Is the sniper rifle useless against flood? Am I doing something wrong?
Am I an idiot?
Will 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 6:21 
I don't really have issues keeping the flood down, even on legendary. There are FAR fewer infection forms in H2A than CEA. Shooting them is not a bad idea. You can also mutilate corpses that are already on the ground if you have a sword or other explosive on you. Plasma is pretty weak vs. the flood, but bullets (and the carb) are decent enough. I suggest battle rifle headshots if you cannot find a shotgun. I don't actually find the sentinel beam that great vs flood personally, but it's awesome vs... well, other sentinels.
Limygeorge 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 6:42 
引用自 WDavis4692
I don't really have issues keeping the flood down, even on legendary. There are FAR fewer infection forms in H2A than CEA. Shooting them is not a bad idea. You can also mutilate corpses that are already on the ground if you have a sword or other explosive on you. Plasma is pretty weak vs. the flood, but bullets (and the carb) are decent enough. I suggest battle rifle headshots if you cannot find a shotgun. I don't actually find the sentinel beam that great vs flood personally, but it's awesome vs... well, other sentinels.

All true, but what about the sniper rifle. Doesn't work against flood for me.
Limygeorge 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 7:07 
This post may not make sense as the one it's in reply too has been deleted.
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Yeah, it's not practical, even if it works I guess. Just wondering if it does work at all. No big deal, I would rarely use it against flood anyhow. Shotty is good and satisfying.

Just curious if others found the same. I did try it quite a few times, sometimes 4 shots on a distant Flood beast, but it's as if nothing at all happened. I guess I could have missed, but I tried other times too. I'm not bad, not good with sniper rifle. All together through H1 ah H2 I tried the sniper at least 25 shots before giving up. As you said not much use for the flood anyhow.

I guess I just missed all 25 shots. One was closeup as I didn't switch weapons. Nothing - guess I missed that too. Considering the flood was covering most of the screen it's pretty skillful to miss.
I'll look at it like that.
最後修改者:Limygeorge; 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 7:14
Limygeorge 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 7:09 
There was one short post between my two above, but it's been deleted, so it may not make much sense. Question is the same though. Thanks

"As you said not much use for the flood anyhow." This sentence is directed to the deleted post, not WDavix4692. I said that, because he didn't say that. Mr. Deleted post said that lol.
最後修改者:Limygeorge; 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 7:12
Biscuit 2020 年 6 月 12 日 上午 7:10 
引用自 Limygeorge
I guess I just missed all 25 shots. One was closeup as I didn't switch weapons. Nothing - guess I missed that too. Considering the flood was covering most of the screen it's pretty skillful to miss.
I'll look at it like that.
lmao
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