I'm confused...

[kλko]

I've just noticed Halo Combat Evolved on Steam.. but it's DLC to Master Chief collection? So do I need to buy Master Chief collection to play it? The Master Chief collection says you'll get all the Halo games (Except 5) But then why is Combat Evolve DLC? Is Master Chief collection some sort of pass to get access to other Halo games? Also I will ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ delete this discussion if this confusion seems stupid.

[arena]

Master Chief Collection is a launcher, when you buy one of the games (even though it says DLC) It will download the launcher and the game you bought.

[fuegerstef]

The "collection" is basically the main menu or hub, from which you start the individual campaigns or multiplayer.

If you buy one game (Reach or CE) you will have the hub or main menu installed automatically.

If you buy the whole collection you will get all games when they come out.
Each game is listed as DLC as that's the way Collections work best here. That way Steam and all the systems running in the back can handle all games as a single title.

EDIT: Ninja'd

[Baltasar]

There is a sticky in this very forum answering this exact question, "!!READ!! Base game "Required"/Can Only Play Reach? ANSWER"

[arena]

Originally posted by Baltasar:

There is a sticky in this very forum answering this exact question, "!!READ!! Base game "Required"/Can Only Play Reach? ANSWER"

Yeah but who reads stickies? Let's be honest.

[nullsignal]

Originally posted by arena:

Originally posted by Baltasar:

There is a sticky in this very forum answering this exact question, "!!READ!! Base game "Required"/Can Only Play Reach? ANSWER"

Yeah but who reads stickies? Let's be honest.

Especially when there are seven (7) of them

[kλko]

Originally posted by Baltasar:

There is a sticky in this very forum answering this exact question, "!!READ!! Base game "Required"/Can Only Play Reach? ANSWER"

Thank you, you're right, there it is, my answer right there. But why the ♥♥♥♥ are Reach and Combat Evolved listed as DLC then? Either you buy them all or you buy them seperately. Calling the individual games "DLC" creates confusion

[†Captain†Alister†]

Originally posted by kλko:

I've just noticed Halo Combat Evolved on Steam.. but it's DLC to Master Chief collection? So do I need to buy Master Chief collection to play it? The Master Chief collection says you'll get all the Halo games (Except 5) But then why is Combat Evolve DLC? Is Master Chief collection some sort of pass to get access to other Halo games? Also I will ♥♥♥♥ing delete this discussion if this confusion seems stupid.

Think of The MCC as a box set. If you buy one game (DLC) you only bought that game. If you bought the collection for 39.99 USD you bought all the games and have access to them as they come out. However if you just buy one game in this box set you only get the one game (DLC.) So in short buy the box set and don't buy them as DLC. If that helps.

[kλko]

Alright, I only have one last question. Can I buy Combat Evolved DLC right now and play it without the need of Master Chief collection?

[†Captain†Alister†]

Originally posted by kλko:

Alright, I only have one last question. Can I buy Combat Evolved DLC right now and play it without the need of Master Chief collection?

Yes. However you will be using the MCC to launch said game. But you will ONLY have access to that ONE game. At least that seems to be the case. I just bought the whole Collection so I wouldn't have to deal with this issue.

Also, if my math is right. You'd be saving about $3.00 USD for every game if you just got the MCC as a whole.

Let's see here $39.99 USD divided by 6 games is about $6.66 USD. Making each game in the collection worth $6.00 bucks a pop. Where as you pay $9.99 USD per game if you bought them individually. But that's if you want to brake it down.

I hope I'm not confusing the situation more. but I hope this does help at least.

[Baltasar]

Originally posted by arena:

Yeah but who reads stickies? Let's be honest.

I do. I also use the board search if it works. Damn reddit with its bump allergy has people post the same question over and over again and ignore all information at hand.

Originally posted by kλko:

Thank you, you're right, there it is, my answer right there. But why the ♥♥♥♥ are Reach and Combat Evolved listed as DLC then? Either you buy them all or you buy them seperately. Calling the individual games "DLC" creates confusion

I think there is no elegant solution to this problem. When you buy the whole collection, then all the separate games are DLC. If you just buy one of them, then the base game is "free". They want their launcher, because the collection is meant to be one seamless experience (or whatever they'd call it). When CE came out today, I was able to initiate the download from within Halo and start the "DCL" without restarting the base game.

I agree it's confusing, but I guess any variation of this scenario would have been confusing on the Steam store page.

However, on the main page of the Collection, you can find this:

"Halo: Master Chief Collection includes 6 great Halo experiences. Halo: Reach and Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary are currently playable. The remaining experiences will be available later in 2020. Purchase The Master Chief Collection Bundle or individual titles for access to available game content."

[Tokyo Banana]

Originally posted by †Captain†Alister†:

Originally posted by kλko:

Alright, I only have one last question. Can I buy Combat Evolved DLC right now and play it without the need of Master Chief collection?

Yes. However you will be using the MCC to launch said game. But you will ONLY have access to that ONE game. At least that seems to be the case. I just bought the whole Collection so I wouldn't have to deal with this issue.

Also, if my math is right. You'd be saving about $3.00 USD for every game if you just got the MCC as a whole.

Let's see here $39.99 USD divided by 6 games is about $6.66 USD. Making each game in the collection worth $6.00 bucks a pop. Where as you pay $9.99 USD per game if you bought them individually. But that's if you want to brake it down.

I hope I'm not confusing the situation more. but I hope this does help at least.

ODST is $5 not $10 btw

[TheFranubian]

I can see why people get confused, I think removing the "you need to own Halo The Master Chief Collection in order to play this content" from the Steam store page in each individual game would fix it, at least mostly.

[fuegerstef]

Originally posted by kλko:

But why the ♥♥♥♥ are Reach and Combat Evolved listed as DLC then?

I explained that above.

For collections this works best on Steam. Nadeo tried a different approach once with 4 titles sold as seperate titles und thus got different steam IDs. It was a nightmare at first when it came to conetnt management (playing across titles, etc ...).

And since in Halo you have cross title multiplayer ... well, do the math.

[TheBoxyBear]

Originally posted by TheFranubian:

I can see why people get confused, I think removing the "you need to own Halo The Master Chief Collection in order to play this content" from the Steam store page in each individual game would fix it, at least mostly.

Indeed, I think the way the Microsoft Store handles it is much better. There, DLC can't be bought on it's own, instead you buy the games seperatly through a bundle containing the DLC and the base game. Each game has its own bundle.