Halo MCC on PC multiplayer is ruined by controller aimbot

[Saul]

For me, it completely devalues what is otherwise a brilliant experience. Until an our ago I played MCC solely on K+M. I thought I was doing pretty well but say in 50% of games there would always be someone way ahead of the pack. I found this gap exacerbated in SWAT. Before the game released I saw people talking about the controller-K+M disparity but I was enjoying the game, so I didn't care. That was until one guy was taking my whole team out the second a red pixel came onto his screen. So, I plugged in my controller to see what it was about.

It was crazy.

I hate using controllers in FPSs. I feel so terrible. How I ever played console years ago beats me. Yet in this, I was smashing heads. And it completely ruined the experience. I didn't feel like I was earning those kills, and now I don't feel like other people are earning their kills. The capacity in SWAT to look vaguely near someone and magnetise to their head is game breaking. It removes the whole aspect which make SWAT exciting - precise aim. It's just as bad in regular slayer. It feels like those stray bullets with the AR no longer exist. I want to say again, I am terrible with a controller. So the fact Halo MCC on PC lets anyone just plug in and stomp is ridiculous.

Why this aimbot exists in a PC game, I don't know. I think trying to accommodate everyone is noble, but it shouldn't be to the core audience's detriment. I could perhaps understand if it was crossplay, but right now, it isn't. Should it be in the future, 343 would do well to implement an 'opt-in' system like Modern Warfare's. They would do well to implement such a system now for controllers. I don't want to play multiplayer knowing people with controllers are always going to have favourable duels. What K+M gains in movement, does not make up in any sense for what is lost to aimbot.

Please 343, change this!

[Yautja]

All magnetism should be removed at the least the assisted aim isn't that much of a issue once you practice kb+m.

[Halcyform]

Halo MCC K/M players:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ukak8P2vY

[Elgerino]

"I thought I was doing pretty well but say in 50% of games there would always be someone way ahead of the pack. I found this gap exacerbated in SWAT."

There's literally no reason controllers would be superior in SWAT and there's no reason to believe anyone ahead of the pack would be using pad in of itself.

[⎝⧹TrM⧸⎠]

post 1001 about the same issue and nothing new. You say that contoller users are topping the matches and there aim assist is the reason for it. Can u see a controlelr user? can you record and pinpont who is using a controller?

You say trying to please everyone is noble but cater for the core audience but That is controllers. yes it's out on pc and all of us want to use K&m But halo made it name on controllers and You want them to turn there backs on all of them?

You say about call of duty opt in system Problem with call of duty Is the whole game doesn't last that long they allways want you to buy the Next one. and on pc Whilst htere are some people active in older cod games There not really popular when a new one comes out. so there opt in service won't be a problem when cod bo 5 comes out next december as most will move on to that game.

splitting the player base will cause segmentation on pc And sooner or later you will be forced to play with them anyhow. Why not learn now how to combat a controller user and improve your own game? Not saying get good but alot of halo online is about map awareness and other factors.

Last but not least you started off by talking about The beta and Keyboard and mouse users was crippled By problems they had which 343 fixed but yet the beta is still being used To prove points.
beta is there to find and fix bugs.

[Weegee]

Publicado originalmente por Saul:

For me, it completely devalues what is otherwise a brilliant experience. Until an our ago I played MCC solely on K+M. I thought I was doing pretty well but say in 50% of games there would always be someone way ahead of the pack. I found this gap exacerbated in SWAT. Before the game released I saw people talking about the controller-K+M disparity but I was enjoying the game, so I didn't care. That was until one guy was taking my whole team out the second a red pixel came onto his screen. So, I plugged in my controller to see what it was about.

It was crazy.

I hate using controllers in FPSs. I feel so terrible. How I ever played console years ago beats me. Yet in this, I was smashing heads. And it completely ruined the experience. I didn't feel like I was earning those kills, and now I don't feel like other people are earning their kills. The capacity in SWAT to look vaguely near someone and magnetise to their head is game breaking. It removes the whole aspect which make SWAT exciting - precise aim. It's just as bad in regular slayer. It feels like those stray bullets with the AR no longer exist. I want to say again, I am terrible with a controller. So the fact Halo MCC on PC lets anyone just plug in and stomp is ridiculous.

Why this aimbot exists in a PC game, I don't know. I think trying to accommodate everyone is noble, but it shouldn't be to the core audience's detriment. I could perhaps understand if it was crossplay, but right now, it isn't. Should it be in the future, 343 would do well to implement an 'opt-in' system like Modern Warfare's. They would do well to implement such a system now for controllers. I don't want to play multiplayer knowing people with controllers are always going to have favourable duels. What K+M gains in movement, does not make up in any sense for what is lost to aimbot.

Please 343, change this!

IT IS NIT AN AINBOT
use a controller and you see that it is not an aimbot and you cant even tell if your enamy is using an controler or baby he just nows halo betehr than you?

[Kira]

Nobody can't deny that it is a problem in the current state of the game. A controller WILL ALWAYS beat a KB+M player in a duel if the KB+M player is not as experienced with it as the controller player is. Aim assist is truly something vile in the realm of PC games, but it's not the end of the world.

They have said that "opt-in" is a thing they are considering, and seeing how this problem keeps getting bigger and bigger, it's just a matter of time for them to prioritize it and bring it to the live version of the game, nonetheless, whilest we have to wait for that to come, we have to learn how to play around the aim assist people, how to circumvent them.

Flank them, peek them, go around them, shoot them from the back then reposition. If they can't lock onto you, you already have the advantage, that's what I've been doing when someone just lasers me. If they play dirty, you gotta do it to.

[Elgerino]

"Nobody can't deny that it is a problem in the current state of the game. A controller WILL ALWAYS beat a KB+M player in a duel if the KB+M player is not as experienced with it as the controller player is."

I too think a situation where the player with more experience beats the one with less is a GROSS INJUSTICE. This simply cannot stand comrades!

[Jigoku]

Publicado originalmente por Dante:

Publicado originalmente por Jigoku:

blablabla waa waa waa

A very helpful and insightful contribution.

i'm tired to see all of this pieces of ♥♥♥♥ crying for something they can't proove.

you can't see on the game who play with a controller and there are no killcam in the game, it's just assuming and spitting on player.
it's call "paranoïa".

"he play with a controller" is the new "it's a cheater"
stop polluting the forum with your ♥♥♥♥ topic.

[dHeX ⛤]

lol you CAN spot controller users if you know what to look for...
Varying movement speed is a dead give away...

[Kira]

Publicado originalmente por Elgerino:

"Nobody can't deny that it is a problem in the current state of the game. A controller WILL ALWAYS beat a KB+M player in a duel if the KB+M player is not as experienced with it as the controller player is."

I too think a situation where the player with more experience beats the one with less is a GROSS INJUSTICE. This simply cannot stand comrades!

Didn't know "Aim assisted gameplay" was synonym of "more experience" according to you.

Perhaps need a little insight in what reading comprehension means?

[Elgerino]

Publicado originalmente por Lynn Gunn:

lol you CAN spot controller users if you know what to look for...
Varying movement speed is a dead give away...

No-one varies their movement speed mate. They're either moving full speed or they're moving crouched.

Publicado originalmente por Kira:

Publicado originalmente por Elgerino:

"Nobody can't deny that it is a problem in the current state of the game. A controller WILL ALWAYS beat a KB+M player in a duel if the KB+M player is not as experienced with it as the controller player is."

I too think a situation where the player with more experience beats the one with less is a GROSS INJUSTICE. This simply cannot stand comrades!

Didn't know "Aim assisted gameplay" was synonym of "more experience" according to you.

Perhaps need a little insight in what reading comprehension means?

How can you talk about reading comprehension when you literally said "A controller WILL ALWAYS beat a KB+M player in a duel if the KB+M player is not as experienced with it as the controller player is." in the quote I highlighted?

[Matt]

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP USING CONTROLLER PLAYERS AS A EXCUSE FOR BEING ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ OFF ITS GETTING BORING NOW

[TruthDemon]

Publicado originalmente por Elgerino:

I too think a situation where the player with more experience beats the one with less is a GROSS INJUSTICE. This simply cannot stand comrades!

Sorry, you have this backwards, The player on a controller with LESS experience is beating out good KB+M players

[Elgerino]

Publicado originalmente por KyrusDark:

Publicado originalmente por Elgerino:

I too think a situation where the player with more experience beats the one with less is a GROSS INJUSTICE. This simply cannot stand comrades!

Sorry, you have this backwards, The player on a controller with LESS experience is beating out good KB+M players

How do I have it backwards? I quoted what they said and I mocked it for saying the opposite of what you just said.

[Kira]

Publicado originalmente por KyrusDark:

Publicado originalmente por Elgerino:

I too think a situation where the player with more experience beats the one with less is a GROSS INJUSTICE. This simply cannot stand comrades!

Sorry, you have this backwards, The player on a controller with LESS experience is beating out good KB+M players

Finally someone who went to school.

Just leave him, apart from the mindless insults all over the thread, it seems he is the only one that hasnt been able to formulate an argument on why this is bad/good/how we can fix this.