Halo: The Master Chief Collection

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Schorl 2019 年 6 月 15 日 下午 2:33
Do you recommend me any of the Halo novels to read?
I've been thinking of getting 2 box sets with novels that take place in the Halo universe.
The first one includes Ghosts Of Onyx, Contact Harvest and The Cole Protocol. The second one includes First Strike, The Fall Of Reach and The Flood. Each box set costs 26 euros. Do you recommend me any of these or do you have me any other suggestions?
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Sparhawk122 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 2:47 
I liked halo before they handed out spartan enhancements like candy and dressed like parade floats.

Exactly. Now we have cocky dislikeable characters like the feminist Commander Palmer and then Locke.
Black Hole 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 5:18 
Meh Buck was always a op character, you are just as deadly with Buck as you were with Chief. They should have changed the mechanics quite a bit to make him feel more like a normal soldier.
Psychedelic Adventurer 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 5:27 
If you're still following this thread JamesGki, here are my suggestions, which I will try and expand upon.

(Skip Fall of Reach)

Halo: The Flood & First Strike.

The flood is essentially an expanded universe 'canon version' of how Halo CE played out in my mind. First Strike is what happends between CE and 2 - very much worth reading.

The Forerunner triology: Probably the most "professionally made" of all the Halo books. Greg Bear is universally known as an excellent writer, and it really shows here. It doesn't feel like a tie in book designed to sell more mech or tat. It's a genuinely interesting look into the forerunner world and its motivations.
It also flushes out the (original) Didact in A LOT more detail. I would actually say these are my favorites out of basically the whole lot

The Kilo5 triology is a hit and miss affair. It doesn't feel as genuine as some of the other peices. None of the characters were that interesting, save for an sangheili character who appears in Halo 5 in an absolutely awful way.

I think those are the best ones tbh. Some of the newer ones are very good as well.
Jebus 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 5:32 
引用自 Megatron
Meh Buck was always a op character, you are just as deadly with Buck as you were with Chief. They should have changed the mechanics quite a bit to make him feel more like a normal soldier.

Well ODST are enhanced to some minor extent.
I remember reading somewhere that they get augmentation for their bones to increase survival chances during their drops.
And also so they can last longer behind enemy lines without sustenance.
(but that isnt really combat related)
So not to any extent of a spartan obviously, But ODST are by no means normal soldiers, is what i'm getting at here.

Plus their equipment is better, their armour is better etc.
I mean, even with a regular marine we'd still feel powerful because we're controllin them.

I'd rather have another ODST game entirely, with a new story.
Honestly feel like we could be anyone in the current game and the narrative wouldnt really change.
Psychedelic Adventurer 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 5:43 
N o . Don't skip Reach, it's the origin story for the entire franchise...
Except it's non-canon now. I get it, people have an attachment to this one. It was the first in the original trilogy of novels. But here's an unpopular opinion. I don't think it was that good.

If anything, I would recommend that OP watches the animation instead.
アゼム 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 6:57 
N o . Don't skip Reach, it's the origin story for the entire franchise...
Except it's non-canon now. I get it, people have an attachment to this one. It was the first in the original trilogy of novels. But here's an unpopular opinion. I don't think it was that good.

If anything, I would recommend that OP watches the animation instead.
Well that's news to me. Since when was it retconned? Even then I would NOT skip it, because it provides context to a LOT of stuff in the games. Canon or not (which I am still skeptical about) it should always be the first book.
Jebus 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 7:39 
引用自 TaquitoBurrito
Well that's news to me. Since when was it retconned? Even then I would NOT skip it, because it provides context to a LOT of stuff in the games. Canon or not (which I am still skeptical about) it should always be the first book.

Its mostly time inconsistencies i believe.
Just gonna "spoiler" this bad boy up just in case.

I mean, in the book its almost exclusively a naval conflict you follow.
You're with captain keyes and the pillar of autumn from the start of that battle.
And as far as i know, i dont believe the pillar ever landed on reach during the conflict.
Theres only one ground engagement, and its only mentioned. Covenant strike teams trying to disable an orbital cannon generator so their fleet could actually approach and burn the planet.

In the game by the time you start the 5th mission, theres dialogue claiming the UNSC fleet wont arrive for another two days. So they aren't even there yet.
The reach conflict in the game is almost exclusively a ground engagement, with the exception of one mission.

"Auntie Dot: "Thankfully, help is imminent. Sixty percent of the UNSC fleet is en route to Reach from existing deployments. The first battle group should arrive within forty-eight hours."

And at the time of said mission start, the invasion is already in full effect from a covenant super carrier no less.
You could fool yourself into thinking you're just following two different perspectives of the battle,
But honestly the planet is lost and destroyed so easily in the book that it just doesnt really add up.


最後修改者:Jebus; 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 7:43
Sp4rt4n1295 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 8:16 
引用自 Jebus™
引用自 TaquitoBurrito
Well that's news to me. Since when was it retconned? Even then I would NOT skip it, because it provides context to a LOT of stuff in the games. Canon or not (which I am still skeptical about) it should always be the first book.

Its mostly time inconsistencies i believe.
Just gonna "spoiler" this bad boy up just in case.

I mean, in the book its almost exclusively a naval conflict you follow.
You're with captain keyes and the pillar of autumn from the start of that battle.
And as far as i know, i dont believe the pillar ever landed on reach during the conflict.
Theres only one ground engagement, and its only mentioned. Covenant strike teams trying to disable an orbital cannon generator so their fleet could actually approach and burn the planet.

In the game by the time you start the 5th mission, theres dialogue claiming the UNSC fleet wont arrive for another two days. So they aren't even there yet.
The reach conflict in the game is almost exclusively a ground engagement, with the exception of one mission.

"Auntie Dot: "Thankfully, help is imminent. Sixty percent of the UNSC fleet is en route to Reach from existing deployments. The first battle group should arrive within forty-eight hours."

And at the time of said mission start, the invasion is already in full effect from a covenant super carrier no less.
You could fool yourself into thinking you're just following two different perspectives of the battle,
But honestly the planet is lost and destroyed so easily in the book that it just doesnt really add up.
Hence why I prefered the battle as it took place in Halo Reach. It just makes sense that Humanity’s second most important world, next to Earth, and most important military outpost would take longer to fall as the UNSC puts up more of a fight to try to kick any Covenant invasion forces off of it. It also makes sense that the Covenant, not knowing the full extent of Humanity’s military presence on Reach, and knowing there are potentially important artifacts to uncover, wouldn’t send a massive fleet of hundreds at first.

I think if you change a couple of things around, you can still fit the book version of the battle with the game version, but considering how outdated the lore of FoR is by the time Halo Reach came out, I’m more inclined to change aspects of the book battle to fit the game battle, which is the better one imo. Everything else about FoR is fine aside from some silly aspects of the book like The UNSC not encountering Hunters, Engineers, or Elites until 2552. You’re telling me that an army of Grunts and Jackals were capable enough to wipe out almost all the Outer Colonies and a large chunk of the Inner Colonies? I find that hard to believe, and clearly the lore of later books and even the games sought to change that.
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Mantequilla 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 8:40 
One of my favs is the Kilo-five trilogy.
Jebus 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 8:44 
引用自 Sp4rt4n1295
Hence why I prefered the battle as it took place in Halo Reach. It just makes sense that Humanity’s second most important world, next to Earth, and most important military outpost would take longer to fall as the UNSC puts up more of a fight to try to kick any Covenant invasion forces off of it.

Thats my main point in the whole "book vs game" debate.

In the game, we actually got something out of, and i quote; "Humanity's strongest fortress world"
Earth might be the most important to humanity as a whole.
But to the UNSC specifically, Reach was.

And yeah, about the spoiler part of what you said, That doesnt make any sense.
But to be fair, Grunts are used to a far greater extent in the books.
We're talking overwhelming waves of grunts in the thousands.
アゼム 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 10:46 
引用自 Jebus™
引用自 Sp4rt4n1295
Hence why I prefered the battle as it took place in Halo Reach. It just makes sense that Humanity’s second most important world, next to Earth, and most important military outpost would take longer to fall as the UNSC puts up more of a fight to try to kick any Covenant invasion forces off of it.

Thats my main point in the whole "book vs game" debate.

In the game, we actually got something out of, and i quote; "Humanity's strongest fortress world"
Earth might be the most important to humanity as a whole.
But to the UNSC specifically, Reach was.

And yeah, about the spoiler part of what you said, That doesnt make any sense.
But to be fair, Grunts are used to a far greater extent in the books.
We're talking overwhelming waves of grunts in the thousands.
It's probably a safe assumption that everything in TFoR book up until the battle is canon then. It is referenced multiple times in the games.
最後修改者:アゼム; 2019 年 6 月 18 日 下午 10:46
Psychedelic Adventurer 2019 年 6 月 19 日 上午 1:33 
引用自 TaquitoBurrito
引用自 Jebus™

Thats my main point in the whole "book vs game" debate.

In the game, we actually got something out of, and i quote; "Humanity's strongest fortress world"
Earth might be the most important to humanity as a whole.
But to the UNSC specifically, Reach was.

And yeah, about the spoiler part of what you said, That doesnt make any sense.
But to be fair, Grunts are used to a far greater extent in the books.
We're talking overwhelming waves of grunts in the thousands.
It's probably a safe assumption that everything in TFoR book up until the battle is canon then. It is referenced multiple times in the games.

It's a weird one I'll give you that; maybe "retconned" was the wrong word. The inconsistancies mount up to quite a lot by the end of Halo Reach, hence why the animation cut said content out.
Really, it's up to him. I didn't get on with it to be honest, not entirely sure why.
Jebus 2019 年 6 月 19 日 上午 2:11 
引用自 TaquitoBurrito
It's probably a safe assumption that everything in TFoR book up until the battle is canon then. It is referenced multiple times in the games.

It's a weird one I'll give you that; maybe "retconned" was the wrong word. The inconsistancies mount up to quite a lot by the end of Halo Reach, hence why the animation cut said content out.
Really, it's up to him. I didn't get on with it to be honest, not entirely sure why.

What i would recommend is watching the animation first, and then reading the book.
Animation Gives a great mental image of the Spartan 2's training and general life.
And the book will expand greatly upon it.

But yeah, Take the actual battle in the book with a grain of salt. Because fact of the matter is, The game is canon.
Psychedelic Adventurer 2019 年 6 月 19 日 上午 2:24 
Precisely!

Sorry to see people don't seem to be getting on with the Forerunner trilogy. Books 1 & 3 are some of the best expanded lore that Halo has ever had, really flushes out the universe.
I will admit book 2 was almost incomprehensible to me on the first reading though.
Sp4rt4n1295 2019 年 6 月 19 日 上午 5:10 
Precisely!

Sorry to see people don't seem to be getting on with the Forerunner trilogy. Books 1 & 3 are some of the best expanded lore that Halo has ever had, really flushes out the universe.
I will admit book 2 was almost incomprehensible to me on the first reading though.
I’m not a fan of how they completely changed the Forerunner lore, and thus completely retconned a fundamental aspect of the Halo universe, all so they can justify having the main villain in Halo 4.
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