even after 30 years, this game will never be like OMSI 2

[Hichem]

Crazy how dev of this game have 0 ambition

[Tomsoetens223]

Omsi2 = bugsi2

[Tomsoetens223]

This game has better graphics and is has optimization than omsi 2 i like bus sim 21

[CyberVinLouis]

OMSI 2 graphics is so trash and unoptimized

[TwinShadow]

While yeah, OMSI 2 has issues, it is a far better simulator than Bus Simulator 21 is and ever will hope to be. The main difference between the two is that BS21 is more in the "simcade" category, where a lot of stuff are simplified for the general audience. OMSI on the other hand, is an actual simulator where you need to take passenger comfort into account, know the route (there are some helper guides to some degree on maps), etc.

Honestly, I enjoy OMSI more than BS21, even though I don't really play it that much lately, or haven't in some time. There's merits to both games though, but for me, OMSI wins.

[NormireX]

Why all the talk about Omsi when Fernbus Simulator is far superior?

[TwinShadow]

Because the last time I played Fernbus (which grant it, was a long time ago), TML Studios was so *beep* incompetent that they couldn't figure out how to make the most basic of physics work properly. I don't even trust them with their newer games for that reason, not to mention leaving a rather nasty bug in the game during a beta test that I reported, but they went and released the patch anyway with said game-breaking bug that wasn't fixed until a bit later. (I don't remember how long it was between then and that update)

If you like Fernbus, be my guest. But I will never recommend anything from TML Studios.

[Hichem]

Comparing omsi 2 to bus simulator is like comparing grand turismo to mario kart

[NormireX]

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

Because the last time I played Fernbus (which grant it, was a long time ago), TML Studios was so *beep* incompetent that they couldn't figure out how to make the most basic of physics work properly. I don't even trust them with their newer games for that reason, not to mention leaving a rather nasty bug in the game during a beta test that I reported, but they went and released the patch anyway with said game-breaking bug that wasn't fixed until a bit later. (I don't remember how long it was between then and that update)

If you like Fernbus, be my guest. But I will never recommend anything from TML Studios.

I never had any issues when I played it. Fernbus so far is still my fav bus sim though I still haven't tried The Bus and that newer one that I can't think of the name of where you have to drive through crazy conditions.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

Because the last time I played Fernbus (which grant it, was a long time ago), TML Studios was so *beep* incompetent that they couldn't figure out how to make the most basic of physics work properly. I don't even trust them with their newer games for that reason, not to mention leaving a rather nasty bug in the game during a beta test that I reported, but they went and released the patch anyway with said game-breaking bug that wasn't fixed until a bit later. (I don't remember how long it was between then and that update)

If you like Fernbus, be my guest. But I will never recommend anything from TML Studios.

Still is. It took them over 6 months to release a patch for the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr audio bug and to fix the fact that there was no announcement when you boarded passengers. Along with crazy snaking, spinning out crashing AI on the autobahns.
Never mind the terrible optimisation on UE5+
Yeah the bus drives like a feather and stops in 6ft at 50mph!

Bus Sim # is miles better than it. People are so easily pleased by graphics today over gameplay, how else do they justify forking out a fortune on an RTX to play said <cough> game ;)
As regards OMSI2, it's way over the heads of 90 odd % of people. As soon as they see the IBIS it's a meltdown lol Then it's start the bus, warm it up, get the air pressure up and forget to control cabin temps. Then as soon as a passenger drops REAL money on the driver it's 'what ticket is it, how much money.....oh i have to give REAL change'.
I have over 191 REAL buses with routes over the entire globe.

I was driving the Citybus I280 series -6 speed manual gearbox. It's a bugger to get going when it's cold, as i was climbing this hill into a french village with 50 passengers, i stalled it. Fortunately it still had enough momentum to get over the hill. As i was coasting down i said to my wife, 'i wonder if you can bump start this in OMSI2?' So as i'm going down the hill i dropped it into 2nd and let up the clutch slowly..... my jaw hit the deck! It fired up!!!! Now being a driver for over 31 years i've done this with old batteries that don't hold charges on cars. Frigging AMAZING modelling. Never EVER soon such clever programming in my 33 years of PC gaming.

Lastly, for the 'ignorant'. OMSI2 is 11 years old and was out when WinXP and 32bit gaming was the absolute norm. There was and still is, nothing on the market that touches it and it modding capabilities and HUNDREDS of maps, buses that are produced weekly.

It's not got ANY BUGS. It's limited by 32bit and 2GB of RAM usage (4GB with the patch) -learn what your talking about before blurting out nonsense. It's embarrassing reading ignorance from people that own PCs but haven't a clue how they function.
It crashes because people think because they have 32/64GB RAM and RTX4090 that it will play at 1,500fps........Ignorance is truly bliss.

To this day, there isn't a bus game/sim that models driving in London, Chicago, Vienna, France etc,etc on REAL roads, with real pedestrians that board buses properly, pay their fare or use digital payments. using LICENSED Ticketer machines and LED/DOT/Roller blinds There's also NONE out there that have full dialogue in multi or native languages , nor berate you for either giving them a pocket full of loose change -deliberately- or either having a cold/hot bus or crashing/hitting curbs and demanding you stop the bus to let them off!

Bus Sim# is a fun game and that's better than a good looking crap game!
Likewise OMSI2 only fault is it was 'born too early'.

[NormireX]

Originally posted by Bobby:

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

Because the last time I played Fernbus (which grant it, was a long time ago), TML Studios was so *beep* incompetent that they couldn't figure out how to make the most basic of physics work properly. I don't even trust them with their newer games for that reason, not to mention leaving a rather nasty bug in the game during a beta test that I reported, but they went and released the patch anyway with said game-breaking bug that wasn't fixed until a bit later. (I don't remember how long it was between then and that update)

If you like Fernbus, be my guest. But I will never recommend anything from TML Studios.

Still is. It took them over 6 months to release a patch for the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr audio bug and to fix the fact that there was no announcement when you boarded passengers. Along with crazy snaking, spinning out crashing AI on the autobahns.
Never mind the terrible optimisation on UE5+
Yeah the bus drives like a feather and stops in 6ft at 50mph!

Bus Sim # is miles better than it. People are so easily pleased by graphics today over gameplay, how else do they justify forking out a fortune on an RTX to play said <cough> game ;)
As regards OMSI2, it's way over the heads of 90 odd % of people. As soon as they see the IBIS it's a meltdown lol Then it's start the bus, warm it up, get the air pressure up and forget to control cabin temps. Then as soon as a passenger drops REAL money on the driver it's 'what ticket is it, how much money.....oh i have to give REAL change'.
I have over 191 REAL buses with routes over the entire globe.

I was driving the Citybus I280 series -6 speed manual gearbox. It's a bugger to get going when it's cold, as i was climbing this hill into a french village with 50 passengers, i stalled it. Fortunately it still had enough momentum to get over the hill. As i was coasting down i said to my wife, 'i wonder if you can bump start this in OMSI2?' So as i'm going down the hill i dropped it into 2nd and let up the clutch slowly..... my jaw hit the deck! It fired up!!!! Now being a driver for over 31 years i've done this with old batteries that don't hold charges on cars. Frigging AMAZING modelling. Never EVER soon such clever programming in my 33 years of PC gaming.

Lastly, for the 'ignorant'. OMSI2 is 11 years old and was out when WinXP and 32bit gaming was the absolute norm. There was and still is, nothing on the market that touches it and it modding capabilities and HUNDREDS of maps, buses that are produced weekly.

It's not got ANY BUGS. It's limited by 32bit and 2GB of RAM usage (4GB with the patch) -learn what your talking about before blurting out nonsense. It's embarrassing reading ignorance from people that own PCs but haven't a clue how they function.
It crashes because people think because they have 32/64GB RAM and RTX4090 that it will play at 1,500fps........Ignorance is truly bliss.

To this day, there isn't a bus game/sim that models driving in London, Chicago, Vienna, France etc,etc on REAL roads, with real pedestrians that board buses properly, pay their fare or use digital payments. using LICENSED Ticketer machines and LED/DOT/Roller blinds There's also NONE out there that have full dialogue in multi or native languages , nor berate you for either giving them a pocket full of loose change -deliberately- or either having a cold/hot bus or crashing/hitting curbs and demanding you stop the bus to let them off!

Bus Sim# is a fun game and that's better than a good looking crap game!
Likewise OMSI2 only fault is it was 'born too early'.

Have to strongly disagree. Fernbus overall, not just graphics is a better Bus Sim than BS21. Sorry you guys came across bugs and things that honestly never came up when I was playing.

[hgabka]

I do not want to push 30 buttons in the correct order just to start the bus. I want to just drive a bus, plan routes and drive them. If you think OMSI is so damn good, what makes you play this game at all?

[TwinShadow]

In terms of OMSI 2, it's mostly just dialing the settings that takes me a long while before I can get it to play comfortably. Plus, I don't have it installed right now. Sometimes I do just want to hop in, drive a bus for a bit and not have to worry too much, which is why I do play Bus Sim from time to time. (now if only Stillalive can fix the brain-dead suicidal pedestrian AI so they will quit walking blindly into the damn road when vehicles are travelling 30+ MPH and I can't stop on a dime when I see someone...)

[G2_Misaka]

Originally posted by NormireX:

Originally posted by Bobby:

Still is. It took them over 6 months to release a patch for the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr audio bug and to fix the fact that there was no announcement when you boarded passengers. Along with crazy snaking, spinning out crashing AI on the autobahns.
Never mind the terrible optimisation on UE5+
Yeah the bus drives like a feather and stops in 6ft at 50mph!

Bus Sim # is miles better than it. People are so easily pleased by graphics today over gameplay, how else do they justify forking out a fortune on an RTX to play said <cough> game ;)
As regards OMSI2, it's way over the heads of 90 odd % of people. As soon as they see the IBIS it's a meltdown lol Then it's start the bus, warm it up, get the air pressure up and forget to control cabin temps. Then as soon as a passenger drops REAL money on the driver it's 'what ticket is it, how much money.....oh i have to give REAL change'.
I have over 191 REAL buses with routes over the entire globe.

I was driving the Citybus I280 series -6 speed manual gearbox. It's a bugger to get going when it's cold, as i was climbing this hill into a french village with 50 passengers, i stalled it. Fortunately it still had enough momentum to get over the hill. As i was coasting down i said to my wife, 'i wonder if you can bump start this in OMSI2?' So as i'm going down the hill i dropped it into 2nd and let up the clutch slowly..... my jaw hit the deck! It fired up!!!! Now being a driver for over 31 years i've done this with old batteries that don't hold charges on cars. Frigging AMAZING modelling. Never EVER soon such clever programming in my 33 years of PC gaming.

Lastly, for the 'ignorant'. OMSI2 is 11 years old and was out when WinXP and 32bit gaming was the absolute norm. There was and still is, nothing on the market that touches it and it modding capabilities and HUNDREDS of maps, buses that are produced weekly.

It's not got ANY BUGS. It's limited by 32bit and 2GB of RAM usage (4GB with the patch) -learn what your talking about before blurting out nonsense. It's embarrassing reading ignorance from people that own PCs but haven't a clue how they function.
It crashes because people think because they have 32/64GB RAM and RTX4090 that it will play at 1,500fps........Ignorance is truly bliss.

To this day, there isn't a bus game/sim that models driving in London, Chicago, Vienna, France etc,etc on REAL roads, with real pedestrians that board buses properly, pay their fare or use digital payments. using LICENSED Ticketer machines and LED/DOT/Roller blinds There's also NONE out there that have full dialogue in multi or native languages , nor berate you for either giving them a pocket full of loose change -deliberately- or either having a cold/hot bus or crashing/hitting curbs and demanding you stop the bus to let them off!

Bus Sim# is a fun game and that's better than a good looking crap game!
Likewise OMSI2 only fault is it was 'born too early'.

Have to strongly disagree. Fernbus overall, not just graphics is a better Bus Sim than BS21. Sorry you guys came across bugs and things that honestly never came up when I was playing.

Wait you guys can drive 50 mph lol i can only drive 6mph to 11 mph not more. (and yeah i drive automatic

[Gazz292]

Can you connect a real bus dashboard to these arcade like bus driving games like you can with omsi?

and get everything working, like the ticket printer display, IBIS, destination display, all gauges and lights etc?

That was one of the great things about omsi, you can modify things to do what you want with a few lines of code... i didn't like the sound of the electric doors on the NG272, so i swapped a line of code to play the air door sound file instead,

Also changed the button inputs for things like my indicator lever, instead of having inputs from the keyboard, i.e. press and release, the indicator stalk (and most of the the dashboard buttons, parking brake etc) are the type that are held on until turned off.

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Omsi may be dated, but i have yet to find a bus driving sim like it, one that makes sweat as if you're actually driving an underpowered heavy bus struggling up a hill, with the speed dropping and the suspension rattling about in protest.

you press the accelerator on a full SD200 bus, and it takes you ages to get upto 50 km/h,
most of the other bus 'sims' i've tried, you press the pedal down and are doing 50 mph before you know it, accelerating and gliding over the road as if it were a car.

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this brings us to the simulator of game thing i guess,
sure some people want to just press one button to start it then drive around,

But some people want to get as close to driving an actual bus as possible, and that's what omsi gave us,

Similar thing with train driving games and simulators,
so many thing tsw is realistic, try doing a cold start on the ET22 loco with a 3000 ton coal train in SimRail to see what it's really like to drive a train,
again you get to feel the worry as you may not make it to the top of the gradient in good weather, add in slippery rails from rain or snow, and you are on the sander all the time and praying.