Is KL now for cheaters only?

[popsicle]

Srsly I just did 60hrs of KL in 2 weeks and I can't even get out of grandmaster anymore. As a lvl 90+ player that made demi god every month, I am now stuck around 3000 pts. My record is terrible.

The cheaters are out of control. All the matches feel super handy capped. If I get on a 2-3 winning streak KL just load opponents with 80+% win odds against me. Or some low tier player with 40 win streak where I get 5 pts if I win, and lose 50 pts if I lose.

Anyone else considering retiring from KL for good?

[popsicle]

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It’s ok man I’m not making fun of you but you are very very very mistaken ... and that’s ok . I promise this game won’t make you as mad after we train .

Bro you’re going to laugh at this later like “ I can’t believe I thought this meant they were cheating “

Seriously I’d love to train with you .

Ok I don't think you understand. I got like 3000 hrs and made demi god like 15 seasons in a row. There is enough training material out there from kombatacademy and YT. I am saying ranked KL is filled with so many cheaters now it is impossible for normal clean players to get out of grandmaster. That is an entirely different issue, nothing to do with my skillset.

[Nuriyokan]

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Just because someone beat you with a flawless victory don’t mean they cheated I have several clips of this . And ranks don’t mean anything in kasual or KL .

It’s all down to player knowledge, adaptability, and muscle memory. You can reach Demi god by mashing with jade , or just using the wake up system using kb’s

Also I’ve beaten eldergod players and was taught by 3 of them ( 2 on ps4 , and 1 on pc ) . Just because mighty unjust didn’t flawless someone doesn’t mean that if others do flawless a person it’s cheating .

The only way to “ cheat in this game is lag switches but funny thing is if you’re skilled enough you can beat ANY person using one .

The only option left is using scripts but that’s only a tactic for a moron because if they use a script they can’t adapt and have no choice but to get punished . This is good players in fighting games beat people who use scripts check tekken videos online to get the context .

Your level don’t even mean anything in this game my guy . You could play towers of time , or play towers on any of the difficulties and it will boost your xp level .

The level and rank system in mk11 is a joke . Also fighters have proven this in the past ranks don’t mean much . I could take existing knowledge from another fighter and bring it over into a current one and beat people at a low “ level “ the rank itself means nothing .

Knowledge , adaptability , practice , execution , and action is what makes you good not a ranking system .

I don't randomly go accusing people of cheating. With replays and evidence I know who is cheating, and there are quite a number of players especially top tier. You try competing with Cetrion with infinite combos with no gaps. No adapting or practice can snap you out of it. Try guessing an Erron black hacker with 15 very similar looking 50/50 kombos. I don't even see real tournament players this good on streams. Stop defending these cheaters.

Cetrion does not have “ infinite combos “ infact the last only infinites we had were raiden 21 corner ( patched week 3 ) , and fujin F3 infinite patched in under 3 hrs . No one has infinite combos especially not cetrion also she barely does damage unless you let her hit you with a kb into fatal blow . Cetrion don’t hit hard at all she just zones .

No gaps ?? Try the lab my guy . Only character on the roster with no gaps is mileena. You can still flawless block her though .

Erron black 15 similar looking 50/50 lmfao bro what ? He only has slide , short hop , f4 overhead , low gunshot . Learn to fuzzy guard Erron . 15 50/50’s lol that’s funny no one has that many . It’s low , or overhead .... I think you confused staggers , mind games , cmd throws , tick throws , pressure , and cancels as 50/50’s .

Erron don’t make you guess 1/15 it’s heads or tails like others the only character who goes a step above is terminator because he has a 3 way mix that’s it . Lol how did you get 15 ?

Stop defending cheaters ??? Lmfao you don’t understand the game as well as you think you do and I can tell you don’t play in tournaments which is fine but one day you’ll look back on this and laugh .

I’m not being mean but it’s funny even if I showed you in practice mode you’d laugh . The pros aren’t that good ? Lol I doubt you watch them .

[Nuriyokan]

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It’s ok man I’m not making fun of you but you are very very very mistaken ... and that’s ok . I promise this game won’t make you as mad after we train .

Bro you’re going to laugh at this later like “ I can’t believe I thought this meant they were cheating “

Seriously I’d love to train with you .

Ok I don't think you understand. I got like 3000 hrs and made demi god like 15 seasons in a row. There is enough training material out there from kombatacademy and YT. I am saying ranked KL is filled with so many cheaters now it is impossible for normal clean players to get out of grandmaster. That is an entirely different issue, nothing to do with my skillset.

That’s not true at all lmfao bro you have to keep learning . No one can have all the answers and based off yours I can tell you don’t have much experience.

Really watch the pros they stream almost every week . Watch them and take notes on how they deal with things . I have no idea why you think it’s impossible to get out of grandmaster .

No one is actually cheating in this game besides a lag switch . If they have a script their an idiot because scripts don’t work on good players . That’s the only thing they can do .

It’s up to you man I won’t pester you but the fact that you think cetrion has infinite combos , and Erron black 15 different 50/50’s ?? I’m down to help you but I leave that to you man .

Just because I understand how to defend against characters , or have attained more knowledge don’t mean I defend cheaters bro . Don’t be like that .

If you ever need help and just feel like things aren’t working message me . We can exchange discord , go into the online practice mode and find ways around anything you think is unfair .

[Nuriyokan]

The fact that you know about kombatakademy and think Erron has 15 50/50’s and cetrion infinite combos blows my mind ..... Idk what to tell you .

Well have a nice day

[popsicle]

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Cetrion does not have “ infinite combos “ infact the last only infinites we had were raiden 21 corner ( patched week 3 ) , and fujin F3 infinite patched in under 3 hrs . No one has infinite combos especially not cetrion also she barely does damage unless you let her hit you with a kb into fatal blow . Cetrion don’t hit hard at all she just zones .

No gaps ?? Try the lab my guy . Only character on the roster with no gaps is mileena. You can still flawless block her though .

Erron black 15 similar looking 50/50 lmfao bro what ? He only has slide , short hop , f4 overhead , low gunshot . Learn to fuzzy guard Erron . 15 50/50’s lol that’s funny no one has that many . It’s low , or overhead .... I think you confused staggers , mind games , cmd throws , tick throws , pressure , and cancels as 50/50’s .

Erron don’t make you guess 1/15 it’s heads or tails like others the only character who goes a step above is terminator because he has a 3 way mix that’s it . Lol how did you get 15 ?

Stop defending cheaters ??? Lmfao you don’t understand the game as well as you think you do and I can tell you don’t play in tournaments which is fine but one day you’ll look back on this and laugh .

I’m not being mean but it’s funny even if I showed you in practice mode you’d laugh . The pros aren’t that good ? Lol I doubt you watch them .

I really think you are just trolling. I invite the NRS administrators to watch the replays and some of the crazy macros I come across.

[popsicle]

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That’s not true at all lmfao bro you have to keep learning . No one can have all the answers and based off yours I can tell you don’t have much experience.

Really watch the pros they stream almost every week . Watch them and take notes on how they deal with things . I have no idea why you think it’s impossible to get out of grandmaster .

If 3000 hrs is not considered "enough experience" there is something wrong with that picture. Also you are misinterpreting what I said. I watch alot of streaming of MK11 tournaments. The level of skilled players I see in PC now far exceed real live tournament players. Far exceed. Mightyunjust, Dragon, Foxy they are not even pulling moves off like these PC players nowadays. And that is contributed by the large usage of cheats, macros on the PC platform.

[Nuriyokan]

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That’s not true at all lmfao bro you have to keep learning . No one can have all the answers and based off yours I can tell you don’t have much experience.

Really watch the pros they stream almost every week . Watch them and take notes on how they deal with things . I have no idea why you think it’s impossible to get out of grandmaster .

If 3000 hrs is not considered "enough experience" there is something wrong with that picture. Also you are misinterpreting what I said. I watch alot of streaming of MK11 tournaments. The level of skilled players I see in PC now far exceed real live tournament players. Far exceed. Mightyunjust, Dragon, Foxy they are not even pulling moves off like these PC players nowadays. And that is contributed by the large usage of cheats, macros on the PC platform.

Please leave a link to what pc players are pulling off that the pros can’t do .... I also have to ask why is it rewind, and arnkratos have no issue making the number 1 , and number 2 spots when they decide to play on pc ?

You going to tell me rewind , and arnkratos cheated ? The pros are way better than most pc players . Macros in fighting games exist ... mk11 has macros but if you’re referring to them actually using a macro that does auto inputs it should be easy for you .

Macros don’t change frame data if you put inputs in too fast they can actually have issue registering as everything needs timing so let’s just say some moron is actually using macros and doing auto combos that mean they’re easily punishable .

They can’t adapt of the auto combo is still going . Why don’t these macro users stop ninjakilla when he plays on pc ? Rewind , arnkratos , curbo , etc ? Why don’t they die over and over on stream to these macro users and “ cheaters “ ?

Skill beats all of it .

[popsicle]

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Please leave a link to what pc players are pulling off that the pros can’t do .... I also have to ask why is it rewind, and arnkratos have no issue making the number 1 , and number 2 spots when they decide to play on pc ?

You going to tell me rewind , and arnkratos cheated ? The pros are way better than most pc players . Macros in fighting games exist ... mk11 has macros but if you’re referring to them actually using a macro that does auto inputs it should be easy for you .

Macros don’t change frame data if you put inputs in too fast they can actually have issue registering as everything needs timing so let’s just say some moron is actually using macros and doing auto combos that mean they’re easily punishable .

They can’t adapt of the auto combo is still going . Why don’t these macro users stop ninjakilla when he plays on pc ? Rewind , arnkratos , curbo , etc ? Why don’t they die over and over on stream to these macro users and “ cheaters “ ?

Skill beats all of it .

Thats funny how you randomly point out console tournament players and pretend I am accusing them of cheating. First off I don't even see those players that you named in PC KL. Never have. So if they play kasual or KOTH is not the same. I have seen Deoxy and Mightyunjust in PC KL in the past, they did get up there in ranks. I never said any legit tournament players were cheating. Stop putting words in my mouth. Also macros allow you to insert tons of inputs with guaranteed accuracy. You keep denying this. Even that Great kahn guy who ranks top3 on PC KL was recently exposed to be a macro cheater. That sums it up.

[Advanced Hazel]

Since I have played in KL for more than 20 seasons, I've encountered many players. Some are really good and really fun to fight against. Even though I lost them many times, there're still moments that I enjoyed playing with them. At first since I started playing KL, my skills are really weak, and I barely won. Then, I go back to Tutorial Mode and learn basic skills which I found out that they really help when playing online. After some seasons, my rank when KL ends starts to move up, from Warrior to Champion and lately Master.

What I want to say is losing to players that they're really fierce doesn't mean they cheat. It's just they know how to use their characters and perform with outstanding fighting styles. KL is still a fun for me, even though I lost many sets in some seasons.

Just practice. Take more time to learn how to use your character in your best style.

[PLacenty]

yep it fookin is...ranked is accutally death,on the 20 matches/18 hackers(lag cheat and whatever shyet what they have).Game is abandon right now,this is one of the most pathetic gamedev what I saw

[Treehunter06]

I don't believe they're hackers I just think the game is so poorly made that you can clearly see frame issues. Moves/blocks that should be happening don't because of syncing. I think it's hillarious when someone says "come train with me get gud they're pro players" lol couldn't even imagine a think it's literally like saying they're pro's at flipping coins.

[Roger Daniels]

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Ed boon needs to step in.

Mate, calm down. Ed Boon does not care about PC version at all, so no stepping in. Another thing that kinda vexed me a little is Russian cheaters you'd mentioned, which looked like all of them are Russians :)

[Wushiba]

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Ed boon needs to step in.

Mate, calm down. Ed Boon does not care about PC version at all, so no stepping in. Another thing that kinda vexed me a little is Russian cheaters you'd mentioned, which looked like all of them are Russians :)

Not all russians are cheaters. Not all cheaters are russians. However -speaking from my personal experience- most cheaters in MK11 that I've met were russians.

[popsicle]

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yep it fookin is...ranked is accutally death,on the 20 matches/18 hackers(lag cheat and whatever shyet what they have).Game is abandon right now,this is one of the most pathetic gamedev what I saw

That sounds about right. Once you leave the master rank, from there on it feels so down hill. Unfair macro cheaters, lagswitching, people pulling cable so you never get the wins. Is like a complete joke.

[RedFox91]

this game needed a blacklist so bad it's not even funny