Mortal Kombat 11

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3nf1@m10n Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:23am
It is just me or is Rain hard to use?
It feels like as if his kombos require strict timings to execute, and his strings cover poor range(long range ones seems to be easily readable by the opponent).
Originally posted by popsicle:
Even after kustomizing Rains moves, it takes so much effort and meter burn just to do so little damage. Compare Joker Spawn and non-MK chars their combos are easy to do and deal 2-3x more damage. Why did NRS make his learning curve so high??
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Welfare Warrior Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:36am 
its not just you, he feels very hard to use. I can't even do basic kombos most of the time.
Bresker Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:40am 
Yea i tend to agree, i found him tricky to use , although it is day 1 and we need to practice him more but for what i have experienced so far is that he have no reach what so ever, his uppercut barely hits, his f2 is so easily wiffed, only 2 overheads that are easy to read , clunky inputs to combo (4 , 2 , 4 for example should be dialed in altogether) , his b 2 1 is so hard to hit, his zoning is not the best also , and the 1 3 3 i find very strange to get used to for whatever reason :D, but again it is day 1 Rain, needs a lot of practice to be efficient that is for sure.
3nf1@m10n Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by Bresker:
Yea i tend to agree, i found him tricky to use , although it is day 1 and we need to practice him more but for what i have experienced so far is that he have no reach what so ever, his uppercut barely hits, his f2 is so easily wiffed, only 2 overheads that are easy to read , clunky inputs to combo (4 , 2 , 4 for example should be dialed in altogether) , his b 2 1 is so hard to hit, his zoning is not the best also , and the 1 3 3 i find very strange to get used to for whatever reason :D, but again it is day 1 Rain, needs a lot of practice to be efficient that is for sure.

I need to time B21 pretty well after amping the special kick.
Bresker Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Glowing edge:
Originally posted by Bresker:
Yea i tend to agree, i found him tricky to use , although it is day 1 and we need to practice him more but for what i have experienced so far is that he have no reach what so ever, his uppercut barely hits, his f2 is so easily wiffed, only 2 overheads that are easy to read , clunky inputs to combo (4 , 2 , 4 for example should be dialed in altogether) , his b 2 1 is so hard to hit, his zoning is not the best also , and the 1 3 3 i find very strange to get used to for whatever reason :D, but again it is day 1 Rain, needs a lot of practice to be efficient that is for sure.

I need to time B21 pretty well after amping the special kick.
true, his combos requires 2 bars to deal decent amount of damage and needs to be timed accordingly, which i find myself screwing most of them in online matches today .
3nf1@m10n Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by Bresker:
Originally posted by Glowing edge:

I need to time B21 pretty well after amping the special kick.
true, his combos requires 2 bars to deal decent amount of damage and needs to be timed accordingly, which i find myself screwing most of them in online matches today .

Exactly unless he uses a KB his damage is like 30% for 2 bars.

Except for his water invincibility (except against throws), he feels like a worse version of Lao in gameplay to me(because Lao has a 10 frame short range mid too).
popsicle Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:28am 
Rain is going to require the same level of skills like Fujin.
3nf1@m10n Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by popsicle:
Rain is going to require the same level of skills like Fujin.

He kind of felt worse than Fujin to me, Rain doesn't seem to have a sliding low starter or flying/air walking like what Fujin has. Also Rain has shorter range attacks than Fujin
Last edited by 3nf1@m10n; Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:56am
keihtg Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:54am 
Happy I'm not the only one having an issue. Spent like an hour and a half coming up with my own combos, and this was the best I could do, lol:
https://youtu.be/LqDbUX1mVjQ
Just saw that there are finally some proper combo videos online from Raptor (Kombat Akademy), so I'll be taking that to "the lab" later. I don't actually plan on maining him at all, but it's just been a matter of principle for me that I can't even do at least 300 damage!
Last edited by keihtg; Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:57am
3nf1@m10n Nov 18, 2020 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by keihtg:
Happy I'm not the only one having an issue. Spent like an hour and a half coming up with my own combos, and this was the best I could do, lol:
https://youtu.be/LqDbUX1mVjQ
Just saw that there are finally some proper combo videos online from Raptor (Kombat Akademy), so I'll be taking that to "the lab" later. I don't actually plan on maining him at all, but it's just been a matter of principle for me that I could do at least 300 damage!

My problem is more than just kombos, his grab hitbox felt small and his longer range attacks either are easily readable or can't connect into kombos.
Like I got easily Kountered by Mileena when I tried to do F2.
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popsicle Nov 19, 2020 @ 8:57pm 
Even after kustomizing Rains moves, it takes so much effort and meter burn just to do so little damage. Compare Joker Spawn and non-MK chars their combos are easy to do and deal 2-3x more damage. Why did NRS make his learning curve so high??
Kuoga Nov 20, 2020 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by keihtg:
Happy I'm not the only one having an issue. Spent like an hour and a half coming up with my own combos, and this was the best I could do, lol:
https://youtu.be/LqDbUX1mVjQ
Just saw that there are finally some proper combo videos online from Raptor (Kombat Akademy), so I'll be taking that to "the lab" later. I don't actually plan on maining him at all, but it's just been a matter of principle for me that I can't even do at least 300 damage!

Mine is basically the same as this lol, except after the Geyser Kick i use either B1 or B3 instead of standing 1 before Geyser Palm, and i tend to perform the full F2 -> Throw -> 4 combo instead of F2 then cancel into Specials like Argus Plunge, you can get up to ~280 with this iirc. Also if you use either B1, B3 for starter and use the full 242 -> Throw combo instead of the F2, you can even get up to 290. Geyser Kick is stylish but damage is meh compared to Geyser Palm.
Last edited by Kuoga; Nov 20, 2020 @ 8:43am
Creed Bratton Nov 20, 2020 @ 8:39am 
Max dood said on his stream that he feels kinda like fujin regarding the weirdness of his moves and how they work, i haven't tried him yet because i started with rambo and i'm now learning mileena

Mileena feels like a better character but the fun i had with rambo i didn't have it with any character in the game, i'm surprised by that since it was the character that least interested me from kp2, he's not a top tier at all but it's really fun to use
3nf1@m10n Nov 20, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Creed Bratton:
Max dood said on his stream that he feels kinda like fujin regarding the weirdness of his moves and how they work, i haven't tried him yet because i started with rambo and i'm now learning mileena

Mileena feels like a better character but the fun i had with rambo i didn't have it with any character in the game, i'm surprised by that since it was the character that least interested me from kp2, he's not a top tier at all but it's really fun to use

To me Rain just felt like Kung Lao without Divekick.

And I haven't really played rambo online yet. But Rambo does look fun.
Creed Bratton Nov 20, 2020 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by Glowing edge:
Originally posted by Creed Bratton:
Max dood said on his stream that he feels kinda like fujin regarding the weirdness of his moves and how they work, i haven't tried him yet because i started with rambo and i'm now learning mileena

Mileena feels like a better character but the fun i had with rambo i didn't have it with any character in the game, i'm surprised by that since it was the character that least interested me from kp2, he's not a top tier at all but it's really fun to use

To me Rain just felt like Kung Lao without Divekick.

And I haven't really played rambo online yet. But Rambo does look fun.

Either snare trap with commando, claymore m60 and roll or his 3 tournament variation are very fun
3nf1@m10n Nov 20, 2020 @ 9:12am 
https://youtu.be/klh3T_waY60
How bad I play with rain.
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