Mortal Kombat 11

Mortal Kombat 11

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baby cow 2019 年 12 月 29 日 上午 10:21
MK11 is most broken fighting game ever
I played MKX and MK11 400 hours each...
In conclusion, MK11 is a much more 50/50 game than MKX. MKX is good.
MK11's overhead/low/mid/throw/KB/FB are all broken. flawless block is also a terrible mechanic.
liu kang only use F43, jax only use F2.
Likewise, other characters only have two or three patterns.
I have never experienced this absurdity in any other game.
but, NRS has no interest in consumer responses.
Because MK11 is already sold a lot.
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Gadmt_ 2019 年 12 月 29 日 上午 10:45 
this game would be so much better if they removed the throw 50/50 tech, nerfed fatal blows to oblivion, put in favor of a way better way to use plus frames to loop block strings. let actual 50/50 characters like terminator and sub-zero play their 50/50 games, and let the rest of the roster play in their own unique style.
popsicle 2019 年 12 月 29 日 下午 1:23 
Scorpion & Subzero has on average 4-5 krushing blows executed per match. Some chars like Jcage or Kollector has almost no krushing blows. The favoritism is what needs to get fixed.
Brownstone 2019 年 12 月 29 日 下午 6:54 
I think 50/50 is much less effective in this game because of the defensive abilities like wake up and roll. In MKX you have no choice other than guessing. Here you have 2 more options.
Realigo Actual 2019 年 12 月 29 日 下午 10:57 
I don't really like it. all the fighting game people who know their fighting games were pretty much right on the money when they talked about it back when the beta happened.

I agree with the talk that the variation system needs to go. It just makes things too ambitious and hard to do in the allotted time when things are this complex in the visuals and physics and simulation in general. This whole game is just spam, cause there's only a couple paths or even just one path for each character.

I don't think it matters for most people who are going to play Mortal Kombat like it's Mortal Kombat like it's Mortal Kombat. It plays like Mortal Kombat. In some ways it plays more like Mortal Kombat than the game has in MKX or MK9. But pretty much any Japanese fighting game is a more pure fighting game experience than this.

HotBurritoInColdRoom (已封禁) 2019 年 12 月 29 日 下午 11:13 
Phahahah... no offence mate, but really?) MK is more 50-50 than MKX? I nearly passed out because of laughing. Are we talking about the same MKX, where 50-50's leads to 30-40% combo mo matter what hit you made? Insane corner combos up tp 40% for only one meter? You've guessed wrong once and half of HP is gone. Sorry, but MKX wasn't competitive. It was just fun. Fun to watch and fun to play it casually. MK 11 is really good competitive game right now. NRS did a great job.
dcba85 2019 年 12 月 30 日 上午 4:17 
Most broken fighting game ever? OP clearly never played too much fighting games or OP is about 10 years old, there are plenty messed up fighting games.

Tekken, SF, Soul Calibur, DOA they all have issues, people are making these games and guess what people ain't perfect they are not AI to think of every single scenario.
NRS keep releasing balance patches, but they can't make this game perfect, I agree there are issues in the game, some chars are way stronger than others, but this is still so much fun and you can learn and improve, there are so much each character can do, so you can practise how to punish every move, but I guess it's easier to whine about how messed up the game, instead of practise for about 200 hours to be great.

If you don't like MK, I guess there are plenty of other options, you can go for Tekken, SF, DOA, Soul calibur, let's see how you like those.
o==(:::::::::::::::> 2019 年 12 月 30 日 上午 4:32 
well any game has some issuses but u just raging out here its an solid game thats absolut not true
Yautja 2019 年 12 月 30 日 上午 4:59 
I'm glad 50s 50s are gone most annoying thing about mkx was its way too fast compared to other mks.
ITalkShitButCantBackItUp 2020 年 1 月 1 日 上午 1:04 
Shinnock,Bo Rai Cho, Sub Zero , Cassie, Scorpion, had 50/50 restands that led to 40+ damage. Some of these re-stand situations meant that you couldn't do anything cause they were super plus. You had to guess. The only character who plays MKX in mk11 is terminator. Things are much easier now
Vulpes_Inculta 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 11:37 
I think it's the other way around. They toned down fun in favor of some balance which may or may not even be there. The game looks stiff and tedious AF. A lot of iconic moves are gone from the game or nerfed into ♥♥♥♥. Sub Zero doesn't have his ice clone or ground freeze (he kinda does but not really), Scorpion's spear doesn't even lead into combo unless you amplify it, Shang Tsung can't transform into any member of the cast at will... etc. etc. Those things were fun, I don't appreciate them being nerfed or removed because of "balance".
OldManSkills 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 12:51 
more 50/50 than mkx ? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Neon Triangle 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 3:00 
引用自 Vulpes_Inculta
Shang Tsung can't transform into any member of the cast at will...

That's actually because of memory issues, something that plagued MK since the home ports in the 90s (or rather, any console that used discs instead of cartridges). I remember hearing somewhere that if the next generation of consoles (PS5 and Xbox Series X) were to use SSDs, then they might be powerful enough to allow Shang Tsung to transform into the whole roster again. I'm sure realistically it might require more than that though.
最后由 Neon Triangle 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 3:00
MisuCra 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 4:35 
引用自 Neon Triangle
引用自 Vulpes_Inculta
Shang Tsung can't transform into any member of the cast at will...

That's actually because of memory issues, something that plagued MK since the home ports in the 90s (or rather, any console that used discs instead of cartridges). I remember hearing somewhere that if the next generation of consoles (PS5 and Xbox Series X) were to use SSDs, then they might be powerful enough to allow Shang Tsung to transform into the whole roster again. I'm sure realistically it might require more than that though.

... Homie... That's wrong on so many levels. It has nothing to do with memory limitations at all. That's not how game design works at all.

Shang Tsung not being able to turn into any member of the cast is purely a game design decision, not the "we need NASA computers to do that" problem. You can easily code that and it won't require anything major from your memory. I don't know from who you heard this, but that person is either an idiot blabbing things without educating himself or you misunderstood something.
Brownstone 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 5:05 
引用自 Neon Triangle
引用自 Vulpes_Inculta
Shang Tsung can't transform into any member of the cast at will...

That's actually because of memory issues, something that plagued MK since the home ports in the 90s (or rather, any console that used discs instead of cartridges). I remember hearing somewhere that if the next generation of consoles (PS5 and Xbox Series X) were to use SSDs, then they might be powerful enough to allow Shang Tsung to transform into the whole roster again. I'm sure realistically it might require more than that though.
Yeah nonsense indeed. Then how did my computer 20 years ago was able to run Mortal Kombat 4? Shinnok was able to transform into any character.
FuscusNight 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 6:02 
Yup i agree, it's still an enjoyable game in a casual way but anything more competitive is utterly pointless, i pretty much stopped with the online MP after the first month and just do ToT here and there now. MKX had its issue, oh boy did it but it was far more balanced and better designed then MK11.

Every single mechanic they changed or introduced in MK11 is poor, the way the meter bars worked before was good, not perfect but good and the change that made xrays/fatal blows now a free to use thing every match is just annoying and boring as hell, having to watch those animations almost every match is just such a pacing killer in a match, you're pretty much forced to watch a brief cutscene in a middle of a fight once or twice almost every match you play, before when it was tied to the bar it was rarely used, only for really bad panic moments when people got more desperate for a win.

Also as you mentioned too, the 50/50 spam is insane, Erron by far being the worst and they really are going overboard with how many people can get teleport attacks.
最后由 FuscusNight 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 6:03
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