Mortal Kombat 11
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They Toned up gore & Violence?,OK but still cant add nudity content like some nudity scenes or nudity type outfit?( like almost was from MK9orWitcher style inspiration elements )?
(expect some english mistakes ,sorry )

(edited) OK im Not saying the game is bad. , i played MK9 , MKX and it was good.

i mean I dont get this,, why people are still ok with violance and gore but not nudity?

and btw im not the only first person asking this..
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/802908-mortal-kombat-x/71343632



Edit 2 : Well..... some people still doesnt get it and wishes this feature not to be added , it feels like they getting offended like how in 90s people gets offented by violance and gore in games,( is it? )
But anyway ,i accept your statement (some haters made good point) then , i was just giving ideas and suggestion about it like how they keep adding other more realism messed up things or gory ideas , and especailly toning up gore and violance.. Just thought ,they could also add some like this. ( like Witcher 3 nudity scenes style .. sort of )

Edit 4 : And onee thing i can agree from someone said that, is that MK dev or its company may lose somthing loss if they thought of adding this feature then theres possible contrevorsery happens? not sure.. ,

Edit 5: Also other people.. 'Teaspoon'' Made some good point,
especially like this one..
''I can understand the stance of someone asking why violence is okay but nudity isn't. The answer is fairly simple in that people are simply more used to seeing violence and thus have become more desensitized to it than they have things like sex and nudity. ''

but i was thinking they should think try once ( in my opinion or suggestion) ,for maturity sake, would it? as in test or some sorts of that..

Edit 6: Well i was hoping this thread could gone normal like how people get ok with Violance and gore ideas on thread.. but nope , its not :/
So i guess its basically like .. ''Nudity(plus sex)'' became a Bad,banned, or offending word to MK community? is it ?


Edit7 :Sigh , Or ..You know..... Wish i had put proper description or explaination about this idea at beginning if i had good english to explain in detail way about this idea :/
Or maybey wish i shouldnt have made this thread and save it for later

Update :
Edit 8: if this thread get locked without reason , then this could possible prove or answers this thread”s question .. Which is ...MK devs/team or fans are Accually Anti nudity ( not interested for adding nudity ) and never ever going to be added in future MK sequel too . But hey I don’t mind if this was answer . I accept this answer

but I wish , we could hear actual proper civil response from Mk community manager or especially Dev .. Ed Boon .?


One thing i like to say qoute/phrase thing

'' Violance gore good? Nudity ( plus/optionally Romance) is bad?''

(And also... sorry for my english)
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย CoolINaturrBoy; 26 มี.ค. 2019 @ 6: 44am
โพสต์ต้นฉบับโดย Shiori:
God dam Teaspoon, you are pretty much only here to disagree with any and all posts, no matter how much time you gotta take to stay up thinking of ways to make your views seem like the only legit one. You also ignored the parts you could not argue with...

AO rating is not THAT easy to get... AO is a porn rating, and a very very rare thing to see in any game. Consider most hentai games on Steam do not even have an AO rating, yet a boob would give Mortal Kombat an AO? There's no way in Hell. If Mortal Kombat, a literal Snuff Film in game form, does not already have such a rating, a boob is DAM sure not going to be the reason it gets that nudge into AO territory. For crying out loud...

And have you really not thought of [Options - Destructive Clothes: OFF] DONE. E3-ready.

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition
    Blood
    Nudity
    Strong Sexual Content
    Violence
    [MATURE 17+]
  • Mass Effect: Andromeda
    Blood
    Nudity
    Strong Sexual Content
    Violence
    [MATURE 17+]
Very much AAA titles, very much not AO rated.

Again, you have not mentioned the parts you could not argue with. Example: A torn shirt with a slim glimpse of boob showing would not be much of a change at all from MK9 and its destructive clothes and boob physics. AO my @ss, many games with actual sex do not get AO.

Also, we are going to use actual age here? When was MK born? Most characters would be using a cane as their Mortal Weapon, and no one wants that from their MK. It didn't happen to Killer Instinct, and it should not happen to Mortal Kombat. There is a such thing as a "Timeless Classic" and Mortal Kombat is one of them.

And remember all those things about skimpy destructive bouncy clothes and Shoa Kahn's Kaptive sex slaves? Maybe don't gloss over those when you are trying to tell us what MK has represented. Lots of stuff you choose to ignore here...

ESPN wouldn't allow tournaments to be shown on TV like they have in the past with games like Injustice and MKX because even if the nudity didn't appear in the tournament it would still be a game that promotes nudity, and ESPN would have a problem with that as would advertisers.

A torn shirt does not "promote nudity" it shows realism, and has already been done by MK. If my shirt was torn, a boob might be visible. This is realism, and many want that in their game. Again I say: [Options - Destructive Clothes: OFF] DONE. E3-ready. Does not take a genius. Turn a thing off if you don't want it in your game, but don't force a thing to not exist simply because a couple people don't want to see it. The same could easily be said about Dead or Alive. The game is worthy of E3 Tournaments, and has extreme boob physics, but that can be changed in Options.

The part you're talking about with the internet backlashes would litterally be the smallest part of the problem.
The biggest part would be people like you finding every possible grain of a possible issue the softest person could find, and drawing public attention to it, so it can suddenly become a large-scale negative focus, instead of a much-needed positive progression. I am sick of everyone being forced to be soft as tissue, and am even more sick of people considering a woman's chest to be satanic.

"If I see a person's head cut off, and next to it I see an exposed boob, I am not about to call the news station because of the boob"
-Shiori
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โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
Human society is so messed up to the point that murder is more socially acceptable than a nipple.

Plus, Mortal Kombat historically was not that fanservicey like 9 was.
And it's still not even controversial. Politicians are responsible for this
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jeek:
You probably never played MK9... There is a lot of nudity. Look at Millena's 3th Costume. Big boobs and hot suits everywhere. In comparision MKX was a big set back for nudity...

There isn't any nudity in MK9. Mileena's Flesh Pit costume while revealing doesn't actually contain any nudity.

MKX wasn't a set back in nudity given that MK9 didn't actually have any.

I hope MK11 will come back to the basis.

Come back to the basis of what? Mileena's Flesh Pit costume? It's the only costume in the franchise that looks that way.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jeek:
Woman protagonist in figting games are always sex icons and fantasms to male players. Why Cammy is almost nude? Why Mileena is so hot? Because player love it. That's all.

No, female characters in fighting games aren't always sex icons. Many of them are designed to be attractive but they're not always designed to be sex icons. For example the large majority of the female characters in Rival Schools aren't designed to be sex icons. Off the top of my head it's really only Tiffany in that cast of characters that's designed to be sexy.

I love it too and I hope to see more sexy outfits in MK11 like in MK9. Not necessarily nudity but sexyness.

MKX had revealing outfits

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38700000/Kitana-mortal-kombat-38752347-1920-1080.jpg

http://static.gosunoob.com/img/1/2015/04/mkx-kitana-1024x326.jpg

You seem to lie a lot, or just make things up or are just flat out wrong about basically everything.
MKX was mediocre compared to like all MK's upon release. MK 9 is my fav so far, but not my "fav upon release" that was MK3 Ult.

And yeah, unreasonable brutality is fine, but a boob = BAN. Makes sense... Rip out a person's heart, PG-rated material but show a tear in a girl's top, game needs a serious change cuz children's eyes might see.

Allow blood spatter, guts rolling around on the ground, and screams of agony, but a boob bouncing means we'd better hold a board meeting to stop this offensive content.
:steamfacepalm:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Shiori:
MKX was mediocre compared to like all MK's upon release. MK 9 is my fav so far, but not my "fav upon release" that was MK3 Ult.

And yeah, unreasonable brutality is fine, but a boob = BAN. Makes sense... Rip out a person's heart, PG-rated material but show a tear in a girl's top, game needs a serious change cuz children's eyes might see.

Allow blood spatter, guts rolling around on the ground, and screams of agony, but a boob bouncing means we'd better hold a board meeting to stop this offensive content.
:steamfacepalm:

The issue here isn't about why gore is okay and nudity isn't but rather that it would add nothing to MK.

There are violent games like The Witcher that have nudity but it's often times contextualized during a sex scene, but why would MK or any fighting game include a sex scene? It would seem completely out of place, unnecessary, and wouldn't do anything for the story other than make it take longer to get from one scene to the next which is something you don't want in a fighting game story.

Putting nudity in a MK fighting game at this point would be completely bizzare and serve no purpose. WB and Neatherrealm would have nothing to gain (and everything to lose) from doing it.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Teaspoon; 29 ธ.ค. 2018 @ 1: 34am
On the flipside, this issue but with fanservice would apply to Dead or Alive.

Brand identity is a powerful thing.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
On the flipside, this issue but with fanservice would apply to Dead or Alive.

Brand identity is a powerful thing.

i wouldn't box things in.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
On the flipside, this issue but with fanservice would apply to Dead or Alive.

Brand identity is a powerful thing.

Dead or Alive has always leaned into it's female characters, even going so far as to make multiple beach volleyball games with them, but even those games don't have nudity which just goes to show how unnecessary nudity is because even a game like Dead or Alive doesn't/won't do it. Same goes for the Senran Kagura and Onichambara. Both of those games series are basically nothing but fan service that only feature playable female characters, but neither series of games as far as I'm aware has had nudity.
@OnionSama by the way , you do know early appearance on “Conan the barbarian” didn’t had nudity and violence gore content that time ?
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Teaspoon:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
On the flipside, this issue but with fanservice would apply to Dead or Alive.

Brand identity is a powerful thing.

Dead or Alive has always leaned into it's female characters, even going so far as to make multiple beach volleyball games with them, but even those games don't have nudity which just goes to show how unnecessary nudity is because even a game like Dead or Alive doesn't/won't do it. Same goes for the Senran Kagura and Onichambara. Both of those games series are basically nothing but fan service that only feature playable female characters, but neither series of games as far as I'm aware has had nudity.
Well ...Senran Kagura has optional (censor or uncensored version ) nudity scenes in animated series on lastest season or in some OVA( see yourself on YouTube or google for that ) like here for example .. warning .. https://youtu.be/OSpDs4I1JBU

except first season didn’t had it ( was censored like or didn’t had uncensored on that time , was it ? ) .So it should had that for its video game too ( as in optional ).

Also DOA almost had nudity scene in early game in cutscene , but don’t know which one . I guess that was supposed to be test or somthing ? https://youtu.be/xv-CI5Bg2VU

So... yeah .. do you still think , nudity content is really that or very bad idea for mature fighting game ?
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย CoolINaturrBoy; 29 ธ.ค. 2018 @ 9: 46am
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Teaspoon:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
On the flipside, this issue but with fanservice would apply to Dead or Alive.

Brand identity is a powerful thing.

Dead or Alive has always leaned into it's female characters, even going so far as to make multiple beach volleyball games with them, but even those games don't have nudity which just goes to show how unnecessary nudity is because even a game like Dead or Alive doesn't/won't do it. Same goes for the Senran Kagura and Onichambara. Both of those games series are basically nothing but fan service that only feature playable female characters, but neither series of games as far as I'm aware has had nudity.
My point is if they dropped the boobs and added fatalities, it'd alienate and confuse its audience.

Heck, just look at the backlash it got with DOA6's announcement, which Tecmo quietly backtracked on.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Teaspoon:

Dead or Alive has always leaned into it's female characters, even going so far as to make multiple beach volleyball games with them, but even those games don't have nudity which just goes to show how unnecessary nudity is because even a game like Dead or Alive doesn't/won't do it. Same goes for the Senran Kagura and Onichambara. Both of those games series are basically nothing but fan service that only feature playable female characters, but neither series of games as far as I'm aware has had nudity.
My point is if they dropped the boobs and added fatalities, it'd alienate and confuse its audience.

Heck, just look at the backlash it got with DOA6's announcement, which Tecmo quietly backtracked on.
People backtracking means nothing more than politics.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Teaspoon:

Dead or Alive has always leaned into it's female characters, even going so far as to make multiple beach volleyball games with them, but even those games don't have nudity which just goes to show how unnecessary nudity is because even a game like Dead or Alive doesn't/won't do it. Same goes for the Senran Kagura and Onichambara. Both of those games series are basically nothing but fan service that only feature playable female characters, but neither series of games as far as I'm aware has had nudity.
My point is if they dropped the boobs and added fatalities, it'd alienate and confuse its audience.

Heck, just look at the backlash it got with DOA6's announcement, which Tecmo quietly backtracked on.
Yeah and Yet DOA6 still get M rated but doesn’t have that Mature themes , I still don’t get it why rated M , yet other fighting games has sexy costumes on it and rated T ,


And ( ok , some of you already know this ) and one more weird thing is that this game has full frontal female nudity and rated 12 or 16 by Pegi ...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/37000/The_Void/
( cutscenes compilation example , warning )
https://youtu.be/Fpjz2-LonEg

( imagine releasing this game on west or on console west : ). )
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย CoolINaturrBoy; 29 ธ.ค. 2018 @ 8: 08pm
Sexuality in a fighting game like Mk 11 is executed better if it was parody or easter egg at the moment just to test the waters. I dont see gore and sex can be put together unless the game is built around it like Duke Nukem or Shadow Warrior. One of the best things in the MK universe was the lore around it. If you put 2 controversial things in a story format, I m expecting it to contribute to the flow of the story. Otherwise if its done poorly, it will be something as cheap as an edgy jumpscare or a bad pun.

If your wishes came true, I doubt you can stream MK11 in say youtube or twitch either. People were already complaining when they saw Bryan Fury in Tekken 7 do his win pose by beating the crap out of the female cast. The slow mo effect of doa 6 where Kasumi and Helena where getting punched in the face. How much more with this?

Also, I doubt that NRS will have the man power to do 2 seperate versions of MK11 for the ps4 and steam. Sony has already been infected with the sjw, feminist, me2 , etc epidemic.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย AGA | prinnyuber; 29 ธ.ค. 2018 @ 8: 19pm
DOA is normally rated M over the absurdity taken over sexuality.

We dont even have to imagine Mortal Kombat without blood or gore, we got some weird examples of such, and neither were well recieved.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CoolAimBoy:
Well ...Senran Kagura has optional (censor or uncensored version ) nudity scenes in animated series on lastest season or in some OVA( see yourself on YouTube or google for that ) like here for example

except first season didn’t had it ( was censored like or didn’t had uncensored on that time , was it ? ) .So it should had that for its video game too ( as in optional ).

The Senran Kagura GAMES don't have nudity. Even if you uncensor them they just look like Barbie dolls.

Also DOA almost had nudity scene in early game in cutscene , but don’t know which one . I guess that was supposed to be test or somthing ?

The fact that it didn't end up in the final game should clue you in on something. DoA had the chance to include nudity but at the end of the day still opted out of doing it. Guess why?

So... yeah .. do you still think , nudity content is really that or very bad idea for mature fighting game ?

It doesn't serve any purpose. Dead or Alive has done well with it's fan service for years without ever including nudity, so why would they all of sudden start now? Why would they ever include nudity if the games do fine as is?

Name a SINGLE benefit the developers or publishers get out of including nudity in these games. Including it won't sell more copies nor does it add anything to the story or gameplay, so if a series like MK has been going for 25 years without it what benefit would it be to them to all of a sudden include it?
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Redblaze27:
My point is if they dropped the boobs and added fatalities, it'd alienate and confuse its audience.

Heck, just look at the backlash it got with DOA6's announcement, which Tecmo quietly backtracked on.

Yeah I understood what you're saying, I was just using it as a jumping off point to explain that even DoA with all of it's fanservice as never included nudity and that if a popular fighting game series would have included nudity it would have been them, but that moment as long since passed. They're on the 6th DOA game and have made multiple beach volley ball games. If they were ever going to cross that bridge they would've done it awhile ago.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CoolAimBoy:
And ( ok , some of you already know this ) and one more weird thing is that this game has full frontal female nudity and rated 12 or 16 by Pegi ...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/37000/The_Void/
( cutscenes compilation example , warning )
https://youtu.be/Fpjz2-LonEg

( imagine releasing this game on west or on console west : ). )

You keep linking that game, but news flash

THAT GAME ISN'T INSANELY GORY WITH PEOPLE BEING RIPPED APART IN POOLS OF BLOOD.

You can't seem to understand that having nudity in a game can be fine or acceptable, but you can't have both the insane violence of MK and nudity. It has to be one or the other.

SO PICK ONE. SHOULD MK HAVE GORE OR NUDITY? IT CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
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