WTF are ya'll smoking???

[akiraxtreme1]

So this is really a topic of discussion on the boards? That peeps are really not getting the game because the females lack exaggerated tits and ass? That the current models for females in MK11 are not sexy enough? What in the hell? First off, if you are really that hard up like that you need to take a step back and ask yourself when's the last time you got laid. Second, realize that Mortal Kombat as a whole was never about jiggling tits and ass all over the place, Dead or Alive was. It's not like you're gonna be pausing the game or staying in practice mode to rub one out because Sonya Blade's cleavage is giving you wood. If you are seek help and a hooker. You clearly need to get it out your system.

And before you even think of giving me ♥♥♥♥ for saying it go back and replay some of the earlier titles in the franchise. MK 1, 2, and 3 the live actors that played those roles were not huge breasted women. Hell, even in MK 4 the 3D models were not big breasted. The PS2/Xbox era of MK (Deception, Deadly Alliance, Armageddon)yeah they were, but I'd chalk that up to the fact that graphic-wise they were more cartoonish. I'd even lump MK 9 right there with them as well. Then with MKX the models were brought back to a more realistic look and with MK 11 they look more lifelike than ever. The graphics and look of MK 11 look so lifelike and realistic that the actor that played Shang Tsung in the first Mortal Kombat movie not only reprised his role to do the voiceover, but the model looks damn near like him.

My point is basically this. You want the game to look as graphically impressive for the current gen correct? You want super detailed characters correct? You want kick ass game play correct? Then get over this silly issue about characters not being sexy enough for you to play and enjoy the game for what it is. It's not like you're gonna brag to your friends about how hot Kitana looks in the game. Because if you are THAT guy expect your fiends to look at you either sideways or with raised eyebrows like you are the cringiest person they know.

[LazyJoeBeard]

Wait that boycott ♥♥♥♥ i heard about was real? i honestly thought it was a joke.... wow

[Kuriishi]

引用自 LazyJoeBeard：

Wait that boycott ♥♥♥♥ i heard about was real? i honestly thought it was a joke.... wow

You can't boycott something that doesn't exist

[Doomerang]

引用自 haz:mat：

引用自 Kurisu：

Apparently cleavage is too disturbing though lol

cringey... cringey was the word i used. not disturbing

Nah, you are obviously disturbed by a good cleavage. Almost like you prefer to eat the hot dogs otherwise why are you here virtue signaling about it

[Chouno]

引用自 Tuo：

引用自 Chouno：

No i didn't miss your point at all, but you seem to have missed mine. They covered sonya from 9 to X and nobody complained. What characters you do this to and to what degree and how matters. It's only a problem now because characters don't look how they are supposed to from previous iterations a SINGLE game ago, not two.

And what are these problematic characters, exactly? Kitana? Her outfit is befitting her character, and if you ask me, rather appealing. Jade, Skarlet? They weren't in X, so they cannot be what you mean. Sonya's design changed very little from the previous iteration, so she can't be the problematic character, either. D'Vorah's default outfit looks to be more revealing than before, and comparing the default outfits, Jacqui also reveals more than before. That only leaves Cassie, who technically was fully covered in X, but wears less form-fitting clothes and armor in 11.

So, is all this over the redesign of Cassie's outfit? Of course it isn't.

Kitana's outfit is a supersuit, not a ninjasuit. look at scorpion and sub zero to see whats wrong. And Frost was in MKX, that's an easy one.

Jade and skarlet have the most room for movement, but it shouldn't out outside the ranges of reintroduction as compared to tanya.

[Weasel]

引用自 Chouno：

引用自 Tuo：

And what are these problematic characters, exactly? Kitana? Her outfit is befitting her character, and if you ask me, rather appealing. Jade, Skarlet? They weren't in X, so they cannot be what you mean. Sonya's design changed very little from the previous iteration, so she can't be the problematic character, either. D'Vorah's default outfit looks to be more revealing than before, and comparing the default outfits, Jacqui also reveals more than before. That only leaves Cassie, who technically was fully covered in X, but wears less form-fitting clothes and armor in 11.

So, is all this over the redesign of Cassie's outfit? Of course it isn't.

Kitana's outfit is a supersuit, not a ninjasuit. look at scorpion and sub zero to see whats wrong. And Frost was in MKX, that's an easy one.

Jade and skarlet have the most room for movement, but it shouldn't out outside the ranges of reintroduction as compared to tanya.

I admit, I forgot Frost for a moment there, but putting that aside for a second - Kitana is not a ninja. Sure, in MK terms, she is one of the "female ninjas", but she is, by status, as a revenant the queen of the Netherrealm, and her past version is a contender for the rulership of Outworld. That is what her outfit reflects, not some rather absurd idea of "ninja outfit", which her MKX outfit couldn't be described as by even the most generous description.

Now, as for Frost, it's fairly obvious that this redesign has story gravitas - she is a secret character, and her design borrows elements from Kronika's design. There's more to be found based on various leaks and trailers, but I'm not going to piece them together here for you. The point is, the new look is a result of changes in the character. As for her MKX outfit, that was literally just Sub-Zero's outfit scaled to fit her.

[haz:mat]

引用自 Doomerang：

引用自 haz:mat：

cringey... cringey was the word i used. not disturbing

Nah, you are obviously disturbed by a good cleavage. Almost like you prefer to eat the hot dogs otherwise why are you here virtue signaling about it

I'm not virtue signalling anything. Simply pointing out that its really cringey for people to whine about how they wont buy a superb looking fighting game long known for its primary focus on excessive violence & gore, because of it's lack of sex appeal.

I have no problem with sex appeal in games. I own DOA6, but there's a part of me that feels major cringe every time Tina comes bouncing into the ring in a skimpy bra, if I'm playing offline versus with friends or family. But hey, that's DOA.... but this is MK... and MK ain't about that life.

[Chouno]

引用自 haz:mat：

引用自 Doomerang：

Nah, you are obviously disturbed by a good cleavage. Almost like you prefer to eat the hot dogs otherwise why are you here virtue signaling about it

I'm not virtue signalling anything. Simply pointing out that its really cringey to whine about how they wont buy a superb looking fighting game long known for its primary focus on excessive violence & gore, because of it's lack of sex appeal.

I have no problem with sex appeal in games. I own DOA6, but there's a part of me that feels major cringe every time Tina comes bouncing into the ring in a skimpy bra, if I'm playing offline versus with friends or family. But hey, that's DOA.... but this is MK... and MK ain't about that life.

While mortal kombat has never released a beach volleyball they have been about that life since deadly alliance. Kyrpt containing lewd images, sonya not wearing a bra and having a see through shirt, shao kahn wearing a banana hammock. Even jiggle physics were a thing in DA and it was super annoying to play lin mei with crane; she should've been doing more damage to herself than the enemies.

[Kuriishi]

引用自 haz:mat：

I'm not virtue signalling anything. Simply pointing out that its really cringey for people to whine about how they wont buy a superb looking fighting game long known for its primary focus on excessive violence & gore, because of it's lack of sex appeal.

I have no problem with sex appeal in games. I own DOA6, but there's a part of me that feels major cringe every time Tina comes bouncing into the ring in a skimpy bra, if I'm playing offline versus with friends or family. But hey, that's DOA.... but this is MK... and MK ain't about that life.

There is plenty of evidence to refute "MK ain't about that life" but that's not what I take issue with.

For me it's a list of issues I have with the game. Unappealing costumes for characters I like is just 1 of many issues I have with the game. Don't get me wrong though, there's plenty I do like too. I just don't like arguments being misrepresented

[haz:mat]

引用自 Kurisu：

There is plenty of evidence to refute "MK ain't about that life" but that's not what I take issue with.

For me it's a list of issues I have with the game. Unappealing costumes for characters I like is just 1 of many issues I have with the game. Don't get me wrong though, there's plenty I do like too. I just don't like arguments being misrepresented

Maybe it's because I skipped over a lot of that period of MK games. I grew up on the original 3 in the arcade / cartridge console era & passed on most of the original PS / Xbox releases. At some point I switched to PC gaming and fighting game franchises were rare. I almost got MK9, but hated it's art style so i passed. Whereas you can trace DOA back to its very roots & sex appeal was always the predominant factor... not that it isnt a very good franchise with honestly some of the best mechanics in any FG out there to this day. Its rep as a hentai sim first, FG second is well deserved only because of it's "art style". The mechanics to make it stand up to & even above a lot of the competition is there.

I have just never considered MK as anything like that. I feel it lost it's way and is now returning to its roots of character model realism over cartoony over the top body shapes (at least on it's overall depiction of the female form).

Like i said, i dont mid sex appeal in games, but im not a fan of it in MK. it detracts from the true virtue of the game.... brutal violence, gore, outrageous fatalities, and fast paced 2d fighter mechanics with a more realistic look than its cartoony SF2 style counterparts.

There are a ton of over the top cartoony games with females who could take their own eyes out with their idle animations. i prefer my mortal kombat rooted in realism cosmetically & absolutely outrageous in the ways we know & love it for... it's spine ripping, eye popping, decapitating, hat splitting gore & violence.

[Chouno]

引用自 haz:mat：

引用自 Kurisu：

There is plenty of evidence to refute "MK ain't about that life" but that's not what I take issue with.

For me it's a list of issues I have with the game. Unappealing costumes for characters I like is just 1 of many issues I have with the game. Don't get me wrong though, there's plenty I do like too. I just don't like arguments being misrepresented

Maybe it's because I skipped over a lot of that period of MK games. I grew up on the original 3 in the arcade / cartridge console era & passed on most of the original PS / Xbox releases. Whereas you can trace DOA back to its very roots & sex appeal was always the predominant factor... not that it isnt a very good franchise with honestly some of the best mechanics in any FG out there to this day. Its rep as a hentai sim first, FG second is well deserved only because of it's "art style". The mechanics to make it stand up to & even above a lot of the competition is there.

I have just never considered MK as anything like that. I feel it lost it's way and is now returning to its roots of character model realism over cartoony over the top body shapes (at least on it's overall depiction of the female form).

Like i said, i dont mid sex appeal in games, but im not a fan of it in MK. it detracts from the true virtue of the game.... brutal violence, gore, outrageous fatalities, and fast paced 2d fighter mechanics with a more realistic look than its cartoony SF2 style counterparts.

There are a ton of over the top cartoony games with females who could take their own eyes out with their idle animations. i prefer my mortal kombat rooted in realism cosmetically & absolutely outrageous in the ways we know & love it for... it's spine ripping, eye popping, decapitating, hat splitting gore & violence.

well here's what you missed

https://youtu.be/c7FUCEteb4c

https://youtu.be/3reD5BNf6zw

https://youtu.be/cXpPGxNyMTU

https://youtu.be/LFWQsTSP2Ek

https://youtu.be/GiCunQnk4dE

https://youtu.be/hUvLaQwEkzg

https://youtu.be/T70gBvUTH0Y

You also missed cart racers, chess, and other puzzle games. All with fatalities.

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

引用自 Leonmitchelli：

引用自 cursed666：

Said kid whos basicly whinig "waaah, stop criticizing muh game!".
Yeah, we get that You and 90% of people doesn't gaf about things like censorship, or where our society will end up in 20 years. Good for you.
But honestly: how many friggin hours have you spent on this forum, whining about people not agreeing with censorship and hypocrisy?
Are you getting paid for this or just dont have life?

the ''we want boobs not gameplay'' argument has no basis and isnt a valid topic for a fighting game period

Why can't we have Boobs and Gameplay though
I honestly find it quite striking that the fighting game that pushed against censors is censoring itself in such a silly way

People have brought up the fact that the Male characters run around Shirtless at times
People aren't even asking the exact same of the Female characters yet such a silly stance was taken against Females specifically it only limits the potential designs of such cool characters

It also makes weird contradictions in certain character designs (scarlet) for someone who loves bathing in blood she's covered from head to toe It's fine if it's just a few costumes but if it's all of them it's more than a tad disappointing

The ninja's specifically had more than a few outfits that showed skin thru out the years
I dunno it's a pretty rough mark on an otherwise beloved franchise

[Weasel]

引用自 Thine Very Own, Nemesis~：

引用自 Leonmitchelli：

the ''we want boobs not gameplay'' argument has no basis and isnt a valid topic for a fighting game period

Why can't we have Boobs and Gameplay though
I honestly find it quite striking that the fighting game that pushed against censors is censoring itself in such a silly way

People have brought up the fact that the Male characters run around Shirtless at times
People aren't even asking the exact same of the Female characters yet such a silly stance was taken against Females specifically it only limits the potential designs of such cool characters

It also makes weird contradictions in certain character designs (scarlet) for someone who loves bathing in blood she's covered from head to toe It's fine if it's just a few costumes but if it's all of them it's more than a tad disappointing

The ninja's specifically had more than a few outfits that showed skin thru out the years
I dunno it's a pretty rough mark on an otherwise beloved franchise

There's a distinct difference between internally decided art direction and censorship. And while I can't speak for others, I'm seeing far more interesting designs in the costumes of the female characters in 11, than there are in the costumes of female characters in 9, which is, without arguing, the most prominent example of boob-focused costume design in the MK series.

[A X I]

引用自 akiraxtreme1：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPt1W9IAx0I

Its the hijabs, not the bust size. Believe it or not, if you make a massive change to a product it will sometimes upset customers that liked how it was before, now back to rachel madow for you.

[BigFan◥▶‿◀◤]

I'd call these cry babies W-A-N-K-E-RS

[Kuriishi]

引用自 Tuo：

There's a distinct difference between internally decided art direction and censorship. And while I can't speak for others, I'm seeing far more interesting designs in the costumes of the female characters in 11, than there are in the costumes of female characters in 9, which is, without arguing, the most prominent example of boob-focused costume design in the MK series.

I would maintain that self censorship is still censorship. You can hide it behind "art direction changes" but those changes only affected the female designs. They basically said no classic costumes for the females because female skin = bad whilst simultaneous having male costumes inspired by classic costumes with plenty of skin showing