The benefits of modern gaming

[Captain n00by]

- politics in games. And it's not even an interesting/intelligent/thought provoking take on politics, but an attempt at shoving a certain agenda down your throat. Because you don't just play games for fun or to escape the everyday routine, you must also embrace the various isms of the "sanctioned" world view and mainstream games are a great propaganda source.

- day one DLC, paywalls, microtransactions. Because you don't just pay 60 bucks to get all the base content from the get-go, you must also buy day one DLC which can easily rise the actual price of the title to over 100 bucks. But hey, you have the cash, so why not spend some more? Lucky for you, there's also various other paywalls in the game and future planned download content!

- desexualization process. Because well proportioned females in mainstream entertainment are a bad thing and anyone who disagrees is in the wrong. And don't think it's about "respect for women" - it's actually the opposite. It also spells a shakey future for big titles which embrace sexuality - don't be surprised if they get blasted in the mainstream media or the makers cave in under the pressure and resort to self-censorship. Fighting games seem to be a prime target of this practice too.

- console oriented development with poor PC ports. Okay, so certain games sell better on consoles and it makes sense that they prioritize consoles over PCs, but wanting a solid, fully functioning console port is not really too much to ask for, especially for full priced titles.

- the inclusion of popular concepts even when they don't fit in. Because everyone and their mother loves a "battle royale" and because everyone likes the same things. Non negotiable.

- generic looking, playing and feeling games. I'm probably not alone in that I feel the big budget mainstream games are starting to look, feel and play way too generic. It feels as if they aren't really made with love, passion and dedication anymore but just to turn a profit and designed by guidelines of target demographic market research. This is great for business men and company shares investors, but is it also great for gamers?

- games as a service. You don't actually "own" the title you buy - you essentially rent it. And it can be taken from you at any given point. What do you do if the online service is shut down or if the publisher decides to stop supporting the title? It's essentially a virtual paperweight at that point.

- always online DRM and performance gimping/spying anti-piracy protection. The first is wholly nonsensical for single-player titles or SP parts of games, the second is a security measure which has actual negative consequences for paying customers. While piracy was always an issue, the draconian measures usually benefited noone.


# retro gamer 4 life !

p.s. - I'd still love to see a HD remaster of MK Trilogy.

[TearN U Up]

You've never "owned" a game you only have a "license" to use the game if you meet and continue to meet the games TOS, if you break this TOS you absolutely have the right to lose your access to said game.

It's also stated in most games TOS that any function of said game including the entire game disabled at any point in the future for whatever reason they deem fit.

This has been the way of games since the beginning its only now that the world has gone completely online and we dont actually have a physical "license" we could attach to a physical device to "access" their games anymore that its a problem but it's always been this way and always will be.

Also this whole complaining about the toned down sexuality is getting ridiculous and makes each and everyone of on your look like the desperate virgins / perverts you really are.

The rest of us have actually seen a real woman and are completely ok with going to them for our needs and not some digital model in a video game.

When my wife isn't up to it there actual P0rn0's theres no need to get my jolly's off with some video game (when I was 10 maybe but not as a normal functional adult male).

[Captain n00by]

Originally posted by TearN U Up:

You've never "owned" a game you only have a "license" to use the game if you meet and continue to meet the games TOS, if you break this TOS you absolutely have the right to lose your access to said game.

This wasn't the case with physical media in the past. While yes, you weren't supposed to lend it or otherwise mess with the files unless specifically stated so, the game was actually yours to own and use for personal (non commercial) purposes.

I agree the decline of physical media is partially to blame for the problem but it's a reflection of the times we live in.

Also this whole complaining about the toned down sexuality is getting ridiculous and makes each and everyone of on your look like the desperate virgins / perverts you really are.

Moot point, because there are games which *embrace* sexuality, e.g. "The Witcher" series.

Regardless of what you think of "The Witcher", I'm fairly sure fans of the franchise would hate to see mainstream media and their proponents tearing it another because it features well proportioned characters of both sexes and nudity.

The rest of your response is just the typical reply a narrow-minded person would be willing to write and brings nothing to discussion.

[TearN U Up]

Sex in the witcher series isnt just for exploitation like it has been in mortal kombat and other fighting games in the past.

I just now went and loaded up Mk9 and MKX to see how overtly sexual they were and MK X wasnt too bad and I liked most of the costumes on the ladies in that game (I DEFINITELY preferred the voice actress for Sonya, Rhonda can't act for S*&T) .

But the costumes in MK9 are a joke, its like every 12 years olds fantasy of what a woman should wear and nothing like something a princess or a warrior or just someone trying to fight someone would wear.

Jade was a stripper for god sakes!

And Skarlett's one outfit barley covered her downstairs.

[Scruffo]

God I love the outrage about politics in games just being mad about slavery being called bad.

[TearN U Up]

Dude dont even get me started that uproar is even worse than the forever virgins.

I HATE outrage culture (People like the Quatering) I would be happy if they never got another view again and could actually find something to rage about like the cost of living.

I'm OUTRAGED because I have to pay property taxes on all my vehicles in full to 2 different cities because I moved in the middle of the year.

Thats something to get pissed about!

[Sikklid]

It's 100% about greed and money, not some political stance. Companies could not care less about the politics, just like the "liberal media" is bs when ALL media is corporate owned by the same companies trying to stir up bickering for ratings and views - aside from a few.

Oh no no no, the REAL reason is that corporate "research" (aka mass data collection) shows that more women than men buy microtransactions so they are targeting them far more than men. Covered up face-to-toe females and Baraka in a loin cloth seems to be the future because of microtransactions. And guess what MK11 has A WHOLE LOT of? Microtransactions.

I could not care less how "newd" the characters are, but when an IP's artistic identity is stripped specifically to make mobile model trash more appealing, it bothers me.

Here:
https://knowtechie.com/women-in-app-game-purchases/

[renk2o16]

The benefits of modern forums -essays.

[Isz]

At least this forum provides a sewer like function in keeping all these ragey weeb incels political garbage in one virtual place so it doesn't spill out into the real world. (Not like a lot of these guys see the real world all thtat often anyway.)

[mdesaleah]

It makes good games like Persona 5, and Devil May Cry 5 that much better ;). In terms of business practices (microtransactions dont exist)

[Captain n00by]

Originally posted by Sikklid:

It's 100% about greed and money, not some political stance. Companies could not care less about the politics, just like the "liberal media" is bs when ALL media is corporate owned by the same companies trying to stir up bickering for ratings and views - aside from a few.

Oh no no no, the REAL reason is that corporate "research" (aka mass data collection) shows that more women than men buy microtransactions so they are targeting them far more than men. Covered up face-to-toe females and Baraka in a loin cloth seems to be the future because of microtransactions. And guess what MK11 has A WHOLE LOT of? Microtransactions.

I could not care less how "newd" the characters are, but when an IP's artistic identity is stripped specifically to make mobile model trash more appealing, it bothers me.

Here:
https://knowtechie.com/women-in-app-game-purchases/

I'm actually not sure about that because several "political" games nowadays don't reach the expected sales performance. So if it was just about money, they'd be resorting to different tactics than "if you don't like it don't buy it" which seems to be the novel thing in mainstream gaming.

[Scruffo]

Originally posted by noobean:

Originally posted by Sikklid:

It's 100% about greed and money, not some political stance. Companies could not care less about the politics, just like the "liberal media" is bs when ALL media is corporate owned by the same companies trying to stir up bickering for ratings and views - aside from a few.

Oh no no no, the REAL reason is that corporate "research" (aka mass data collection) shows that more women than men buy microtransactions so they are targeting them far more than men. Covered up face-to-toe females and Baraka in a loin cloth seems to be the future because of microtransactions. And guess what MK11 has A WHOLE LOT of? Microtransactions.

I could not care less how "newd" the characters are, but when an IP's artistic identity is stripped specifically to make mobile model trash more appealing, it bothers me.

Here:
https://knowtechie.com/women-in-app-game-purchases/

I'm actually not sure about that because several "political" games nowadays don't reach the expected sales performance. So if it was just about money, they'd be resorting to different tactics than "if you don't like it don't buy it" which seems to be the novel thing in mainstream gaming.

Tell me more about these "political" games, specifically what games you're talking about because apparently Mortal Kombat 11 is one because it says slavery is bad and now I'm curious about what other games fit your outrage.

[renk2o16]

Originally posted by Isz:

At least this forum provides a sewer like function in keeping all these ragey weeb incels political garbage in one virtual place so it doesn't spill out into the real world. (Not like a lot of these guys see the real world all thtat often anyway.)

True. There should be about 10 discussions on this forum. The trouble is everyone keeps starting their own thread cos their opinion is most important. So there’s 100s of “discussions” saying the same thing cos no one reads the forum. Ironic to write this really.

[Captain n00by]

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Originally posted by noobean:

I'm actually not sure about that because several "political" games nowadays don't reach the expected sales performance. So if it was just about money, they'd be resorting to different tactics than "if you don't like it don't buy it" which seems to be the novel thing in mainstream gaming.

Tell me more about these "political" games, specifically what games you're talking about because apparently Mortal Kombat 11 is one because it says slavery is bad and now I'm curious about what other games fit your outrage.

Genderfield 5 would be an example, though luckily, I never did like that series and completely lost interest after BF4 (I prefer the superior *masculine* ArmA series).

[Scruffo]

Originally posted by noobean:

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Tell me more about these "political" games, specifically what games you're talking about because apparently Mortal Kombat 11 is one because it says slavery is bad and now I'm curious about what other games fit your outrage.

Genderfield 5 would be an example, though luckily, I never did like that series and completely lost interest after BF4 (I prefer the superior *masculine* ArmA series).

Oh Christ you're one of *those* gamers. Well that explains your initial dump of a post.

[CoalBee]

I just came here to say. I find two things funny. One; everyone crying about clothed females when out of all the females in the current selection, it makes sense. None of them were really ever provocative. If Mileena was in and fully clothed, I would raise an eyebrow as she often used her figure to seduce. Plus, Kitana looking mighty fine in her skin tight outfit. Two; People cried about characters in media being scantly clad. Now everyone cries they are clothed. In short, there's no pleasing y'all. I could care less if my bikini clad ninja warrior suddenly decided they wanted to wear more. That's my rant on this "desexualization" bit