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Jiraiya 2019 年 6 月 21 日 上午 10:34
85% Scorpion players in Kombat League
Hello

as said in the title - Scorpion is R I D I C U L O U S op (forget about my name)

Teleport cancel (he can even hit me when Im straight JF3 in the air) is a bad joke.
It totally restrics the options of the opponent because Scorpion WILL then teleport into your face.

Iis disappointing how one devs favorite can be on "eldergodlevel" in pvp lol we are in Mk11 and not the devs favorite game for this own satisfaction.
When I hear that Liu Kang, Sub-Zero, Jade or Scarlet should be nerfed ...
Are you serious??? lol

Example: The second most famous Ninja, whats with Sub-Zero?
Why do I see 1 Sub-Zero player in 25 matches (when Im lucky)? Sub-Zero lacks extremly in neutral situations and he cant react quick enough ->He gets beaten up in the air and is much slower in comparison to Scorpion, Sonya, Geras or other Mk characters.Experienced Mk players can also handle Sub-Zero" - OF COURSE- but they could even do better with Scorpion- he got the options and skillset - everyone from noob to pro picks Scorpion and I see no other character more often than him.
You can take out the most out of him (easy to use nearly all crushing blows in one match, long combostrings where you can just hold "Block" until his chain stops swinging around xD ;one mistake and you get caged.

I think other characters need buffs or Scorpion should be nerfed (rather option 1).

My win rate is at 50% so im not that bad, hes cool but Im tired of the amount of ppl who play him.

Hope some people read it :steambored:
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Arashenstein 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 1:30 
Everyone is scorpion because he is the only character which has a good tournament loadout (with the chain spear). It is just stupid you cannot use the loadouts in tournament mode because my main is Sub-Zero and his default loadouts are garbage as his slide is taken away and replaced by cold shoulder... that is why I am one of those scorpions...
Con Chim Trong Sáng 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 1:44 
I never intend to use Scorpion until so many sore loser switch to spamming character when they can't win against me. I'm not saying I'm good or anything, people can beat me with combo and I would still be satisfied cause it help me learn. But play for score is pathetic. Choosing God tier character and spam over and over again give me cancer. I try playing spammer character as well but it just turning me into a braindead like those loser. So scorpion is the only option now. He can't spam much, mostly rely on combo to dealt damage, got fast teleport to dealt with spam. I used to hate Scorpion for being picked most but after those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Erron, Kabal, Cassie,... I love him now.
最后由 Con Chim Trong Sáng 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 1:46
Uncle Ruckus 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 2:04 
引用自 Arashenstein
Everyone is scorpion because he is the only character which has a good tournament loadout (with the chain spear). It is just stupid you cannot use the loadouts in tournament mode because my main is Sub-Zero and his default loadouts are garbage as his slide is taken away and replaced by cold shoulder... that is why I am one of those scorpions...
Players use Scorpion in KL not just because of that. There are many reasons. He does have very good choice of specials in his tournament variation.
It`s not stupid that you can`t use custom variations. It`s the opposite. The harsh reality is that many players are bad. As rude as it sounds, without crutches they are not a challenge at minimum and nothing at worst. Sub`s slide is a crutch. Not trying to generalize, there are good people who do that, but all bad ones use same set. Slide, ice ball, air axe. Try to freeze your opponent, use amplified (?) slide and throw axes here and there.
I won as Shang Tsung without much problems in KL and thank Elder God his easy ninja moves are not in tournament variations. He`s fine as it is. Feels more like Shang Tsung and zoner without them. Ermac`s special makes me feel like playing MKX or earlier MK games again and not in a good way. Reptile`s slide if not better, then equal of Sub`s slide.
If you are not using specific character just because his tournament variation doesn`t have specials you want, then the problem is on your side. Friendly advice will be to improve your "skills".
Zaxx 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 5:53 
引用自 Arashenstein
Everyone is scorpion because he is the only character which has a good tournament loadout (with the chain spear). It is just stupid you cannot use the loadouts in tournament mode because my main is Sub-Zero and his default loadouts are garbage as his slide is taken away and replaced by cold shoulder... that is why I am one of those scorpions...
Dead of Winter is a pretty dope variation, those nice mixups can get me out of some deep ♥♥♥♥ sometimes. But yeah, the lack of slide sucks, on my kasual variation I have EX ice ball and slide too.

Thin Ice is cool too, it's just more tactical and setup friendly. Just because Subby was brainded on lower levels in MKX with his corner pressure it doesn't mean that MK11 Subby is ♥♥♥♥, you just have to think more.
最后由 Zaxx 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 5:55
Teddy Roosevelt 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 6:20 
引用自 Mincy
I never intend to use Scorpion until so many sore loser switch to spamming character when they can't win against me. I'm not saying I'm good or anything, people can beat me with combo and I would still be satisfied cause it help me learn. But play for score is pathetic. Choosing God tier character and spam over and over again give me cancer. I try playing spammer character as well but it just turning me into a braindead like those loser. So scorpion is the only option now. He can't spam much, mostly rely on combo to dealt damage, got fast teleport to dealt with spam. I used to hate Scorpion for being picked most but after those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Erron, Kabal, Cassie,... I love him now.
And here is the threads answer. People like this that just play easier characters instead of trying to improve. This is why we have so many scorpions.
renk2o16 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 6:43 
引用自 IronRush
Dont worry man...
We have this kind of topic everyday here.

Scorpion is not op. Thank god we have stats for prove that. In competitive scenario scorpion almost never get top 8 in any tournament, even with that many scorpion players and scorpions fans out there. NRS know that for sure.


I wish people would stop making this comparison. You can’t compare scrub level play with pro level play.

We are all scrubs here playing with various levels of input lag and online lag.

Pros are pros. And they sit next to each other with no lag.

The problem with fighting games in general is that they need two balances, one for pro level and one for scrub level. They have different requirements. What’s good for pros is not good for scrubs and vice versa.

That’s why “balance” is an eternal problem. Go to any fighting game forum and people are having the same conversations, just change the character names.

Take fatal blow for instance. The sole purpose is to create “hype” moments for esports. Same as rage art in tekken. Online they are just annoying.

*this isn’t aimed at you dude, just more in general
最后由 renk2o16 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 7:13
tragickingdom 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 7:28 
again, Scorpion is not hard if you get the right people.

Sonya > Scorpion
Jade > Sub-Zero

Kano > Sonya & Jade
Geras > Kano
Jiraiya 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:42 
Totally agree: whatever you do he can punish you fullscreen.
Yes there are other broke chars... Geras, Erron black and whatever but this boring FreetoWinChar is a class for its own. I play both variations of my char but I can totally ♥♥♥♥ on the zoning variaton because im busy waiting and blocking his unsafe moves and trying to interrupt.
smh

But what if my startup is 20x slower?

This is no high quality fighting and I wont try something risky, because it can all end here if I mess up 2-3 times.

popsicle 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 9:45 
Scorpion is so OP you can do 2 teleports in the time frame that Jade shoots 1 boomerang projectile. Thats how unbalanced that move is.
Stfu You're Ugly 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 10:33 
If you can't punish a Scorpion, you're just bad. If you haven't picked up on Scorpion's patterns when he's a "braindead easy to use character", what does that make you? Lmao Even at kombatant level in KL, Scorpions get punished ALL THE TIME.

Stay out of kombat league/ranked and stick to kasual if you're just going to rage quit after a round. It's your skill level that's the issue. If you want a "I'm a winner too participation trophy" at the end of every match, go join a youth minor league baseball team.

Noob, Geras, Sonya, or Erron are way worse than even a Reborn Scorpion lmao 😂 but yeah teleport with the same easy to read combos is the issue right?

This game has a defensive meter btw! Even an offensive one! You should look at it from time to time since youre looking at the screen anyways!
最后由 Stfu You're Ugly 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 10:37
HappyRogue 2019 年 6 月 22 日 上午 10:35 
I feel you, mate! More than frustration, it just gets boring to face the same character every 2-3 matches!
Zaxx 2019 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:06 
引用自 Stfu You're Ugly
If you can't punish a Scorpion, you're just bad. If you haven't picked up on Scorpion's patterns when he's a "braindead easy to use character", what does that make you? Lmao Even at kombatant level in KL, Scorpions get punished ALL THE TIME.

Stay out of kombat league/ranked and stick to kasual if you're just going to rage quit after a round. It's your skill level that's the issue. If you want a "I'm a winner too participation trophy" at the end of every match, go join a youth minor league baseball team.

Noob, Geras, Sonya, or Erron are way worse than even a Reborn Scorpion lmao 😂 but yeah teleport with the same easy to read combos is the issue right?

This game has a defensive meter btw! Even an offensive one! You should look at it from time to time since youre looking at the screen anyways!
Now you've told 'em! :D

Sure, some of his strings are punishable, the teleport is punishable etc... but you can't expect new players to be aware of that. It really comes down to how game balance is supposed to work well enough both on the lowest and higher levels. On the newbie level Scorpion is a cheese factory, there's no question about that and even when you're aware of what you're supposed to be doing things can get dicey when Kombat League decides that you have to play with a dude from Azerbaijan who has a bad PC and a wifi connection.

And really if you make a game that's based around neutral you really shouldn't have a character in the game that has the sole purpose of nullifying neutral play. If you do that you just give a get out of jail free card for people who are bad at neutral and don't want to learn. And I say this as someone who's absolutely not a natural when it comes to playing neutral (basically I picked up Shang because he seems to be centered around whiff punishing so he's a good learning tool for me for neutral).
最后由 Zaxx 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:09
Infevo 2019 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:35 
Scorpion is horrible. you can punish almost everything he does. let's talk about sonya, erron and all the cheese you have to deal with from Jaqui, Jax, Subzero and so on.
Zaxx 2019 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:39 
引用自 Infevo
Scorpion is horrible. you can punish almost everything he does. let's talk about sonya, erron and all the cheese you have to deal with from Jaqui, Jax, Subzero and so on.
How is Subby cheesy? I agree on the other two though.
renk2o16 2019 年 6 月 22 日 下午 12:50 
引用自 Zaxx
引用自 Stfu You're Ugly
If you can't punish a Scorpion, you're just bad. If you haven't picked up on Scorpion's patterns when he's a "braindead easy to use character", what does that make you? Lmao Even at kombatant level in KL, Scorpions get punished ALL THE TIME.

Stay out of kombat league/ranked and stick to kasual if you're just going to rage quit after a round. It's your skill level that's the issue. If you want a "I'm a winner too participation trophy" at the end of every match, go join a youth minor league baseball team.

Noob, Geras, Sonya, or Erron are way worse than even a Reborn Scorpion lmao 😂 but yeah teleport with the same easy to read combos is the issue right?

This game has a defensive meter btw! Even an offensive one! You should look at it from time to time since youre looking at the screen anyways!
Now you've told 'em! :D

Sure, some of his strings are punishable, the teleport is punishable etc... but you can't expect new players to be aware of that. It really comes down to how game balance is supposed to work well enough both on the lowest and higher levels. On the newbie level Scorpion is a cheese factory, there's no question about that and even when you're aware of what you're supposed to be doing things can get dicey when Kombat League decides that you have to play with a dude from Azerbaijan who has a bad PC and a wifi connection.

And really if you make a game that's based around neutral you really shouldn't have a character in the game that has the sole purpose of nullifying neutral play. If you do that you just give a get out of jail free card for people who are bad at neutral and don't want to learn. And I say this as someone who's absolutely not a natural when it comes to playing neutral (basically I picked up Shang because he seems to be centered around whiff punishing so he's a good learning tool for me for neutral).

I don’t see how the game is supposed about neutral. Most chars have a teleport or a fast sliding move. Projectiles are so slow that they are only easily thrown out full screen. So to me the game seems like keep away or all in. The only chars who seem to benefit from ‘neutral’ are ones with low starters.
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