So... is the FULL story for each spirit not actually in this game or what? (story spoilers... like nothing but story spoilers, read at your own risk)

[firemaiden9510]

So I'm absolutely loving this game but I'm getting REALLY frustrated with the story for the spirits. Are the stories for each of the spirits not actually complete in the game?

I ask because I looked up something for Astrid on the wiki and saw all sorts of stuff about her and Giovanni's story. I'm very close to the point I send her off and it feels like almost nothing mentioned on the wiki is anywhere in this game.

No where in this game that I saw did it mention that Astrid hid Jewish kids during WW2. No where in the game has it been mentioned she hit a Nazi with a frying pan. No where has it mentioned that she didn't even remain married to Giovanni in her lifetime, she remarried. No where has it been mentioned that Stella met them in France as a teen.

Unless this is all stuff brought up on the boatride to the Evergate. None of this is mentioned.

Astrid has been the worst offender of this so far. Compared to Alice where everything mentioned about her in the wiki I picked up on... except the hell she knew Stella. Which was that she was her nurse when she died. I think that's the reason why the ONLY spirit I've gotten really attached to was Alice, because she has been the only spirit so far that I understood the story for because all of it was basically in the game. I literally cried when, at the gate, Alice says "Wait... you're... you're not Annie are you?" The other one that got me was Summer, again because her story was so explicitly told other than the fact that I don't think it ever mentioned that Rose died a decade before Summer.

Even Gwen felt like she was missing some info (though it's been a minute since I had Gwen on the boat). I got she had a strained relationship with her father, but I was left confused when she talked about needing to forgive her father at the Evergate. Sure he seemed to treat her as a trophy, but that didn't seem like enough to make it so hard for her. Come to find out from the wiki... her dad left her mom for a man (an accountant). I remember the accountant being mentioned but it never being explicitly stated that her dad cheated on her mom and left. The reason I was sad to let Gwen go had very little to do with being attached to her through her story like I was with Summer or Alice, and more to do with knowing her and Gwen were such close friends.

I love this game, but it's getting wildly frustrating that it seems like most of the story ISN'T IN THE GAME.

I saw there was an artbook that gives more info, and I'll probably get it, but what I want to know is if the incredibly specific info given on the wiki is ANYWHERE in this game. Because if it's actually somewhere in the game I'd love to know so I can experience it. If there's some way I'm missing important dialogue I'd love to know.

Because I picked up just fine what was put down by the game on Astrid. She's a very caring and assertive woman who loved a womanizer and doesn't know how to feel about that fact. But it's really upsetting that it seems that most of the story for this seemingly intriguing woman isn't actually in the game. That it feels like the game wants to allude to the fact that Stella knows all these spirits but only ever explicitly states how she knows them in Summer, Gwen, and Atul.

[rmsgrey]

The game has multiple sources of information about the various spirits.

- There are the mandatory conversations you're required to have with them in order to progress their storylines.

- There are optional conversations with them that you can have while they're with you. It sounds like you're probably doing all (or at least most) of those - if you talk to them whenever you get the chance (not just when they have an attention marker), sometimes it'll just be to say that they're hungry or don't like the weather, or to comment about others on the boat, but other times it'll be to discuss something about their backstory.

- There is a late game quest that gives Stella's own backstory, and a lot of incidental details about specific spirits come up in that.

- There is a late game building that offers additional details about each spirit, apparently based on how much you learned about them while they were around (the information for spirits that are still around when you get this feature unlocks gradually, and it's possible to end up with only some of the information for a spirit even after they're gone, so there's more to it than just doing the mandatory quests)

Most of the points you mentioned about Astrid are definitely in those latter two.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

It is mentioned, but you gotta work for it to learn about it.