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I'm assuming you've taken the deer, the snake and the hedgehog to the Everdoor and have zipline and double-jump abilities.
If you've only released three spirits, fishing won't help you...yet.
You can get glide before crossing the rock barrier, but you'll need to cross the rock barrier for your bounce ability to get Buck.
You need to go to Bottom-Line which is on the side you CAN access near Albert's place. It sounds like you don't have Astrid, who is on Bottom-Line. She will give you the missing obol and she is the one that makes the turtles show up - they do not appear before you have Astrid).
rmsgrey and I were trying to help you without spoiling anything for you. But if you follow the above, you'll be on your way.
That was it! Every time I spoke to her, I just got 3 dots! I just had to keep doing it! THANK YOU!!!!!! I HAVE MARBLE!