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Tsugumi Henduluin 2020 年 8 月 21 日 上午 3:48
(Solved) Is there a way to force the game to show PS4 button prompts?
*Edit*

Well, this is beyond silly. To fix this, I had to *disable* "PlayStation Configuration Support" in the general controller settings.
To me this makes absolutely zero sense, but whatever. As long as I get the proper button prompts.


Original post below:


Basically just the title.

I have a Dualshock 4 hooked up to my PC. Controller itself works fine, but all the button prompts are those of the XBOX One controller. Since the game is also available on the PS4, I imagine it should support DS4 prompts just fine, but I cannot get them to work, nor can I find a way to toggle them in-game.

Saw a post from last year mentioning it had to do with Steam Big Picture, but I never use that. Tried toggling my controller off and on while ingame, while using Big Picture, etc, but nothing works.

Ideas?
最後修改者:Tsugumi Henduluin; 2020 年 8 月 21 日 上午 4:18
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ClockworkXI  [開發人員] 2020 年 8 月 21 日 上午 5:55 
Hi there! As for the explanation, when you enable PlayStation Configuration Support Steam wraps the controller as an XInput controller to be able to manipulate inputs (and allow rebinds, etc). Unfortunately, this means on our side we lose the ability to identify the controller. We decided to fallback on xbox glyphes in that case.
Tsugumi Henduluin 2020 年 8 月 21 日 上午 7:10 
Ah, so it's just that Steam could really do with some better explaining of their settings then.

Thanks for the clarification! Will probably come in useful if I ever encounter the same problem in another game in the future~
OtakuD 2020 年 9 月 1 日 下午 12:29 
Any mods to overwrite this? Makes it pretty confusing tbh
Kein Zantezuken 2020 年 9 月 2 日 上午 11:01 
引用自 OtakuD
Any mods to overwrite this? Makes it pretty confusing tbh
This should work, will always force to "Sony"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owpydr9096apnvm/SFsonyGlyphs_v0.1.zip?dl=1
Unpack into the game folder
最後修改者:Kein Zantezuken; 2020 年 9 月 2 日 上午 11:01
kissifrote 2020 年 12 月 21 日 下午 3:55 
引用自 Kein Zantezuken
引用自 OtakuD
Any mods to overwrite this? Makes it pretty confusing tbh
This should work, will always force to "Sony"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owpydr9096apnvm/SFsonyGlyphs_v0.1.zip?dl=1
Unpack into the game folder

this doesn't change anything for me, i have to unzip this in Steam\steamapps\common\Kami?
ClockworkXI  [開發人員] 2020 年 12 月 21 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 kissifrote
引用自 Kein Zantezuken
This should work, will always force to "Sony"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owpydr9096apnvm/SFsonyGlyphs_v0.1.zip?dl=1
Unpack into the game folder

this doesn't change anything for me, i have to unzip this in Steam\steamapps\common\Kami?
If you have a dualshock 4, just disable Steam Input for the game in it's Steam properties and you should have the correct glyphes.
kissifrote 2020 年 12 月 22 日 上午 1:00 
it works, but only when i play alone.

if i want to play coop with two ds4 controllers, when i disable steam input the second controller doesn't work.

it works fine with steam input enabled and two controllers, but i don't have the correct glyphes.
ClockworkXI  [開發人員] 2020 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:32 
引用自 kissifrote
it works, but only when i play alone.

if i want to play coop with two ds4 controllers, when i disable steam input the second controller doesn't work.

it works fine with steam input enabled and two controllers, but i don't have the correct glyphes.

It's odd, it should have worked fine with the two DS4. Do you have any controller middleware running? If so, disable them as well.
kissifrote 2020 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:55 
i don't have any, but maybe the bluetooth dongle do something (it's a standard dongle but i don't see anything except this who can interfer)
ClockworkXI  [開發人員] 2020 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:15 
引用自 kissifrote
i don't have any, but maybe the bluetooth dongle do something (it's a standard dongle but i don't see anything except this who can interfer)

It might be the bluetooth yes, we haven't tried this configuration, only wired.
kissifrote 2020 年 12 月 22 日 上午 9:29 
so there is no way to force the game to show the ps4 button? cause i don't have enought meter of cable to play wired
ClockworkXI  [開發人員] 2020 年 12 月 22 日 上午 10:21 
引用自 kissifrote
so there is no way to force the game to show the ps4 button? cause i don't have enought meter of cable to play wired

Sent you a private message with a workaround. We'll see about patching a better way to do this in the future.
AL2009man 2021 年 1 月 1 日 上午 9:51 
引用自 ClockworkXI
Hi there! As for the explanation, when you enable PlayStation Configuration Support Steam wraps the controller as an XInput controller to be able to manipulate inputs (and allow rebinds, etc). Unfortunately, this means on our side we lose the ability to identify the controller. We decided to fallback on xbox glyphes in that case.

You know, there's a way to get Steam Input to detect Controller Prompts without using Steam Input API?

Under "I Want my Non-Steam Input API Games to Play Nicely with Steam Input" , Valve recommends either giving the option to manually switch button prompts (similar to how Death Stranding does it) or have Steam Input to only give the button prompt while remaining XInput via their helper function (Hades, The Yakuza Series and Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy does it).

The Best Practices page should help you give an idea on how to do it:

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/steam_controller/steam_input_gamepad_emulation_bestpractices
ClockworkXI  [開發人員] 2021 年 1 月 1 日 上午 10:13 
引用自 AL2009man
引用自 ClockworkXI
Hi there! As for the explanation, when you enable PlayStation Configuration Support Steam wraps the controller as an XInput controller to be able to manipulate inputs (and allow rebinds, etc). Unfortunately, this means on our side we lose the ability to identify the controller. We decided to fallback on xbox glyphes in that case.

You know, there's a way to get Steam Input to detect Controller Prompts without using Steam Input API?

Under "I Want my Non-Steam Input API Games to Play Nicely with Steam Input" , Valve recommends either giving the option to manually switch button prompts (similar to how Death Stranding does it) or have Steam Input to only give the button prompt while remaining XInput via their helper function (Hades, The Yakuza Series and Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy does it).

The Best Practices page should help you give an idea on how to do it:

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/steam_controller/steam_input_gamepad_emulation_bestpractices

Thanks for the link! We tend to develops our games to work without Steam Input so admittedly this fell to the bottom of our list and we never got to it. I'll definitely take a look at it, as it would improve the user experience!
Justin 2021 年 1 月 1 日 下午 1:58 
引用自 ClockworkXI
Thanks for the link! We tend to develops our games to work without Steam Input so admittedly this fell to the bottom of our list and we never got to it. I'll definitely take a look at it, as it would improve the user experience!

I'd appreciate if this was also pushed to prior titles (Sundered, and I presume Jotun) as well.
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