I've started just debarking and selling logs

[Jason Sharpe]

I cut the logs. Debark them then run them to the mill for sale at $80 a log. I think this is the fastest way to make money. Because not every log cut gives you a 100 planks but every log is $80. So I'm going to run with this for a while see if this is the key to earning the most money the fastest to pay off uncle. greedy bugger that he is lol

[Tazmo]

Two logs make one plank pallet. Right now all logs are considered the same regardless of size.
So your two logs gets you 160 vs one wet plank pallet gives you 180. You are losing 10 euro's for every log you sell. Also in one trip the flatbed truck carries seven pallets. Can you carry more than fourteen logs in a trip? Those debarked logs are large.

[Jobe]

And you still get the wood chips 25 kg, and the bark 70 kg for every log.

[Tazmo]

I forgot to mention that truck is much faster then the tractors.

[Jason Sharpe]

Yeah I was able to squeeze 14 logs into the old trailer. I own 6 forest areas all trees are down I was 175 plank cases ready for the ovens plus 32 at 50% humidity right now. I owe $144,000.00 still. The old tractor is worth $20,000.00 to sell and the old trailer $5000. I currently have the flatbed, the new forklift plus the dune buggy. Unfortunately the old truck has zero value to sell. I was surprised though how much you could get for the old tractor.

So I guess the fastest way is to just make the crates sleep a week repeat until the mill is paid. Plus once you get a haul of vegetables from your greenhouse your return on the food dishes is just as good as the lumber.

So on one game I've got 95.8 hours logged. I know I'm doing it the hard way. And with this latest hotfix. When you sleep a week your flowers go bad, which I don't quite understand.

[Jobe]

Well I hauled a load of debarked logs on the new log trailer and the bison. The new log trailer got 43 and the bison also got 43, very disappointing. I thought the bison would hold more. So one debarked log will yield 80 euros for the log plus 24.64 euros for the wood chips and 32.50 euros for the bark, 137.14 euros total for each log. You can haul three times more with the trailer or bison, but it's slower because you have to use the tractor with the wood trailer and bison has the same max speed. The fastest turn around I found is to dry wood planks for a week while you rest then load and sell them. You will get a cut in price, but still more than wet planks. The drying time needs to be reduced for better balance in this game. The time it takes to make money is insane.

[Tazmo]

Time is the biggest issue I think. I just finished a second play thru and was able to pay off Uncle in just under two months but it took 16 days and over 100 hours real time to do it. I only repaired what was needed to advance to level two. I did not upgrade any buildings. Saved all wood for selling except for James's jobs. Did the required quests for the old tractor, the two trailers, and the forklift. I went back and stole all the logs these quest had me cut down and store. Talked to Lilly early to learn about mushrooms then did repair jobs for early money. The quest where you see the lady to fix her hotel gives you canned foods which I sold for good money. Then I logged like crazy, dumping all logs into the river and turned them all into planks.When I had over 200 pallets waiting I took James first job and I used his truck to sell most of those wet pallets off.

In 15 trips you can sell 105 wet pallets for 18,800 euro's. You can make all those trips in one long day of driving. In two days I had all the money I needed to by my own truck and forest land.

After that it was log 20-30 trees then start selling. When the land is cleared buy another forest. Keep a close eye on bark chips as they add up really fast. When you need a change of pace go do a sheep quest and stock up on mushrooms and herbs. Somewhere in there I did the second James quest to help Lilly out and learn about herbs. No transport jobs or lawn mowing jobs.

I am retired so I have a lot of free time but 16 days is a long time to make it to level 3 not to mention the long hours of play.

[Jobe]

It takes 15 trips to the mill to sell 105 wet pallets for 18800 euros, but if you haul the same 210 debarked logs it will net 16800 euros but only takes 5 trips to the mill. So with that same 15 trips to the mill you can make 50,400 euros. Is 2000 euros really worth 10 more trips to the mill. Yep that's 200 euros per trip for the extra 10 trips to the mill. Like I said before it's three times faster to just sell debarked logs.

[Jason Sharpe]

Yeah I think I am physically suffering major body pains playing for so long. Is this what Farm Dynasty is like? I can only imagine how long it takes to grow the trees once you've replanted them. I hope the dev's tune this or I'm going to end up in traction lol. I'm already disabled with a bad back as it is and can't work!

[Tazmo]

Originally posted by Jobe:

It takes 15 trips to the mill to sell 105 wet pallets for 18800 euros, but if you haul the same 210 debarked logs it will net 16800 euros but only takes 5 trips to the mill. So with that same 15 trips to the mill you can make 50,400 euros. Is 2000 euros really worth 10 more trips to the mill. Yep that's 200 euros per trip for the extra 10 trips to the mill. Like I said before it's three times faster to just sell debarked logs.

All good points you made and maybe once you have all the good equipment that's the way to go but when your just starting out cash is king. How much extra land do you need to purchase and log off to buy the good equipment and then pay off uncle. When a forest gives you 400-500 logs your losing 4,000 - 5,000 euros. Times 8 (forests) and your talking 32,000-40,000 euros that could have gone towards you debt.

I started a new play thru last night to see if I could shorten the time even more. Maybe you could start a new game and play it your way and we can compare notes when Uncle is paid off and we reach level three.

[Jason Sharpe]

Ok sounds good

[Jobe]

I only play 2-3 hours a session, more on weekends, and not every day because even though I'm semi-retired I still work as needed so I won't have time to start a new game. But I did discover a new problem. I overflowed the debarked log storage and some of the logs glitched into the mill. Check out the screenshots.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224064530
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224065094
Also if you park a vehicle at the mill gate it will hold it open forever.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224065688

[Tazmo]

Wow! Did you have to hand carry those logs out or was that even possible? Looks like you had too much fun playing with the new equipment and forgot about the mill. Game needs an auto shut down to prevent the type of backlog you have there or an invisible storage area like it has for the 1,000 pallet queue.

[Capuzzi09]

Originally posted by Jobe:

I only play 2-3 hours a session, more on weekends, and not every day because even though I'm semi-retired I still work as needed so I won't have time to start a new game. But I did discover a new problem. I overflowed the debarked log storage and some of the logs glitched into the mill. Check out the screenshots.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224064530
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224065094
Also if you park a vehicle at the mill gate it will hold it open forever.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224065688

The only problem here is you, since you obviously refuse to bring these logs to the timber market.
Is it really a surprise for you that the log storage is overcrowded if you keep storing logs? What did you expect would happen? The logs growing some legs and walking to the market on their own feet?

[Tazmo]

To be fair, the developers could have expected this kind of problem and had a designed in fail safe (which I'm sure they will look at as the game is still being developed). There are a number of reasons for a player to step away from the computer while the game is still running. The screen shots really show the problem. What may be a problem for this player is a benefit for the developers as a discovered flaw to be fixed before the game is released as a finished produce.

[Jobe]

To be honest I did it on purpose trying to explode the mill. But yeah it looks like unlimited storage for the debarked logs. And I can confirm the mill operates just fine while full of logs.