About the epic launch and current state of the game

[Cloud]

Hey there, I've noticed the game will be free next week on epic games and I can't really shake my head around this, seeing as we get an average of 4 concurrent players right now, is that really the best of times to do such a move? To me there is some heavy and obvious problems with the game that push away everyone from the game (me included) and it seems like some compromises have to be done to allow the game to have the success it deserves. I know the epic contract is signed and nothing we can do about it, but maybe we can do some simple things that can be done in a small ammount of time to give it the best chance it's got.


I've been at times one of the most vocal constructive criticiser of the game, and that's just because I love the game and I want Hell is others to succeed and have to popularity it deserves and get new players to heck around with, have good gunfights and create cool memories.

Epic launch's launch faillure would be sentencing the game to just straight out die and players to lose all hope for the future of this game and seeing them leave as we have seen around here, consistent players and vets leaving out of frustration, something clearly wrong happened outside of average player retention to go from 1000 to 4 players and ignoring facts won't do any good. But enough prefacing.


What I suggest :

Most important of all: -Remove stat loss on sleep, losing them on death was punishing enough.-> It on it's own is the biggest point of frustration imo, sleep is mandatory to progress the story and make use of the week system. Having it this way only favours people that are done with it, are stockpiled on everything and don't need to switch the day (and even for those players it's boring to always go for the same loot to sell)

If a system isn't rewarding players and only punish for engaging with it, you just lose the system altogether and if this system is crucial to progress the game, people just won't play the game, you need to be a little less hardcore to bait people into engaging with the system (nothing hardcore about touching logs for several minutes/hours to hopefully get stat buffs, no one is playing this game for the farmville aspect)
I think punishing people for surviving and doing well and progressing the week and story is also a headscratcher as well, I could go on and on on how silly that feels to a lot of people that will simply play hunt showdown or escape from tarkov instead because they value their player's time more. And of course those epic gamers will behave in a similar manner especially if they got it for free, no matter the percentage affected, you're effectively destroying a big part of the playerbase because of this decision and the community needs to at least hear the reasoning about it if it's not gonna change.

-Remove durability or heavily lenghten it on weapons so we're not forced to waste limited inventory on bringing multiple weapons (no rosebud is not qualified as a good enough weapon in that case)

-Reduce log touching time and increase fun time not the opposite (increase spawn rate, spawn quantity and/or buff ammount of stats a mushroom/pill gives so that it doesn't take such a long time to get competitive stats

-Reduce variance of power beetween those at the top of the food chain and those at the bottom of it. That means :

-> limiting the effect of stat buff (I suggest 25% instead of current 50%)

->reduce the ammount of stat a modified bullet can hold (reddit poll agrees https://imgur.com/a/yPJltfv )

->remove homing bullet alltogether because it simply nullifies any skill expression in classic gunfights the game can has and that's the only thing keeping veterans playing. (Just look at classic mmr games which on it's own, motivates player to play daily to get better)

-Balance and BUFF guns so that we have more than 1 strong option instead of nerfing everything into the ground

That was my ted talk.

[𓃵]

I'm reposting the comment I left on your Reddit post.
Thank you for the feedback again!
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First, the whole team wants to thank you for this feedback: your constant presence, even in the less fortunate moments, encourages us to do more and better.

As you said in your post, launching on Epic is very important to us, and we assure you that we are doing everything we can to deliver the best experience possible.

As for updates and balancing, we would like to make a premise before we respond in detail to your feedback.

The changes that we implement result from the union between our surveys (which many of you have compiled) and the data that emerge from the games played: it’s very difficult to try to take into account everything without risking affecting the experience of someone, but we’re trying to do it. However, that takes a long time, especially for an indie team.

Having said that, we’re glad to give you some news that will surely please many members of our community: we are going to cancel the reset statistics when you go to sleep!
With the recent introduction of the new toxicity bar, the problems caused by the sum of various statistics are scaled down, and we think it makes sense to reintroduce the previously adopted model. Of course, we also look forward to your feedback, making us ready for the new metas to come!

[WrathOfBong(BongRipsForJesus)]

I got into 1 game with my friend and got off, we spawn in different locations, we can't tell each other apart. This was the most stupid design choice in my opinion. This is not a mil sim like tarkov or maraduers. I understand why it doesn't have a player base, because it is literately only for solos

[ZorkWart]

first time player from epic and I've rage quit both times, the default control options don't suit a keyboard and mouse as I naturally want to walk backwards while firing but can't. I'm trying again cause I think it's got a nice feel, but the losing of loot on death and poor control is v irritating.
If this is as complicated the game gets then the novelty may wear off.
Also, I thought it was a single player game, then all there is is multiplayer?

[ZorkWart]

Yeah, nope. Just another game where you run around for 20 minutes collect some carp and then die. Uninstalled.

[Cloud]

Originally posted by ZorkWart:

first time player from epic and I've rage quit both times, the default control options don't suit a keyboard and mouse as I naturally want to walk backwards while firing but can't. I'm trying again cause I think it's got a nice feel, but the losing of loot on death and poor control is v irritating.
If this is as complicated the game gets then the novelty may wear off.
Also, I thought it was a single player game, then all there is is multiplayer?

You can walk backward while aiming, are you sure you understand the controls?
There's some depth to the game, it's actually enjoyable now give it another try

[Knight of the Criminally Insane]

I just got it on Epic, and can't even play the game. Every time I try to boot it up, it tells me my session has expired and that I have to restart. Endless loop. SO, I think I am already done with it... Looked interesting.. But if I can't even play it, what's the point?

[WrathOfBong(BongRipsForJesus)]

Originally posted by Knight of the Criminally Insane:

I just got it on Epic, and can't even play the game. Every time I try to boot it up, it tells me my session has expired and that I have to restart. Endless loop. SO, I think I am already done with it... Looked interesting.. But if I can't even play it, what's the point?

my buddy had that when he got on, don't know if he restarted the game or just kept attempting, but was able to get in, this game is only worth it as a solo though, if u play on playing with people don't bother, this game was designed to discourage you from playing with friends.

[Kaiser der goldenen Sonne]

Well finally i can enjoy this game now, like it was supposed to be. I played 6 hours of gameplay on Epic and always had a full lobby. Best fun i had in a while.

[Kaiser der goldenen Sonne]

Originally posted by Knight of the Criminally Insane:

I just got it on Epic, and can't even play the game. Every time I try to boot it up, it tells me my session has expired and that I have to restart. Endless loop. SO, I think I am already done with it... Looked interesting.. But if I can't even play it, what's the point?

You can scan and repair your game data on epic, maybe something from your download have gone wrong.

[ZorkWart]

Originally posted by DamienClawd TTV:

Originally posted by ZorkWart:

first time player from epic and I've rage quit both times, the default control options don't suit a keyboard and mouse as I naturally want to walk backwards while firing but can't. I'm trying again cause I think it's got a nice feel, but the losing of loot on death and poor control is v irritating.
If this is as complicated the game gets then the novelty may wear off.
Also, I thought it was a single player game, then all there is is multiplayer?

You can walk backward while aiming, are you sure you understand the controls?
There's some depth to the game, it's actually enjoyable now give it another try

Classic douche attitude. If a game isn't intuitive, must be the player who has to learn.
It has FPS direction movement for a top down non rotating camera on an 8-bit style game.

[Bathroom Boy]

Hello, i Just start the game with the Epic release, i love the ambiance and the gameplay seem nice. But i have some major lag issue, and i can't play 2min without having a 20sec of lag and my character moving by himself.
Is this a Epic's server problem that will be fix soon or do the game need a really really good connection ? This is my only multiplayer game where i have lag and it doesn't look like it would need alot to fonction.

Thanks ! :)

[Cloud]

Originally posted by ZorkWart:

Originally posted by DamienClawd TTV:

Classic douche attitude. If a game isn't intuitive, must be the player who has to learn.
It has FPS direction movement for a top down non rotating camera on an 8-bit style game.

Who's the douche to come in my post about constructive criticism and throw a lot of garbo insults in the most non constructive way and doesn't accept he's the problem and not the game?
Learn the controls, they're extremly simple. if you need specific help, ask for it instead of doing a tantrum.
You hold mouse 2 to aim, you use wqasd like every single other game to move your character, If you can't do that I can't help you with your 50 iq

[Zizzar 40K]

Originally posted by Imperator der Sonne:

Originally posted by Knight of the Criminally Insane:

I just got it on Epic, and can't even play the game. Every time I try to boot it up, it tells me my session has expired and that I have to restart. Endless loop. SO, I think I am already done with it... Looked interesting.. But if I can't even play it, what's the point?

You can scan and repair your game data on epic, maybe something from your download have gone wrong.

Hello, I scanned my game to see if there was an error but it was still the same. I uninstalled and re-installed but still nothing, I don't know what's wrong