Squad Leader?

[Ulthar]

IS this finally the vaunted Advanced Squad Leader inspired game of my dreams?

[Axeking]

No - its based on Valor & Victory:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28452/valor-victory

[Joe Kundlak]

Yep, much more approachable than ASL, but fun to play!

[Gorgoneion]

It is more similar to Advanced Tobruk System. Very attritional but a lot of fun.

[nzgunner]

Originally posted by Ulthar:

IS this finally the vaunted Advanced Squad Leader inspired game of my dreams?

Tigers on the Hunt [www.matrixgames.com] might be more what you're looking for if ASL is what you want.

[KnottyBoy]

Would be my dream too Ulthar.

[♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀]

Originally posted by Axeking:

No - its based on Valor & Victory:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28452/valor-victory

Half true as V&V and ATS both started with SL/ASL as a base. Their art, counters, and boards are also very much the same. They just have a lot less tedious and easier systems to learn.

My dad and brother both played ASL and I am probably one of very few women in the world to have played and own physical copies of ASL and a few ATS games because of them.

[Dreamsurfer]

Squad Leader was also the first thing I thought of when I saw these images. Remember that SL was far from being as complex as ASL :). A graphical mod like linked above wouldn't cut it for me so instead it would be nice if someone made a comparison matrix with the original SL. I mean it's not like this has scaling of mountains and such intricate rules does it? Pity John Hill isn't alive to consult anything nowadays :(.

Btw. Those OOB:s look more or less exactly like the ones from SL.

Hey I would be happy if it had Lt.Stahler :D. Cross of Iron remains a fond memory of my wargaming youth :).

My first computer was a ZX Spectrum. That is how long I have hoped for someone to do a computer version of SL. Nothing materialized, Vassal modules doesn't count and certainly not the abormination that was from Microprose. Combat Mission was great but no SL. So this could very well be the closest I will ever get to remaking that history.

[Total_Stranger]

This is probably as close to ASL as you can get on PC. I've tried Tigers on the Hunt and it's rather lackluster (graphics wise), but close. I currently play VASL (Virtual Adv Squad Leader) free using the VASSAL Java Client (engine), but it has no A.I. obviously. You have to play with another person or solo. I just don't understand why someone doesn't come out with a PC version of ASL. With how games are easier and easier to make nowadays, it shouldn't be a colossal task to accomplish.

[Total_Stranger]

Another one you might try which looks VERY similar to V&V is Lock N Load by Matrix Games.

[Dreamsurfer]

Well to be fair, SL/ASL is most fun played live with real boards etc. Sadly I have no time to be a member of any club. Not that I think many play it nowadays.

I think the reason we never saw ASL, was that no one managed to find a good way to translate those very complex rules to something that would be fun on a PC. If I am not mistaken, even the creator of ASL was a bit put off by his game, the binder was bigger than some C++ manuals :D. We got "similar" games like CM, Steel Panthers etc etc.

Nevertheless. This looks like it will push all the right buttons, can't wait :).

[Dreamsurfer]

I would be happy with a map featuring the Tractor Works :D

[jhbath1]

This looks good hope its out soon ! I can remember SL that itch never left me.

[dundas61]

Would be great to be able to create your own scenarios via some form of add-on toolkit!

[pauljwright1]

Are there any updates on when this will be released am eagerly waiting for this game

[UncleYar]

Originally posted by ♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀:

Half true as V&V and ATS both started with SL/ASL as a base. Their art, counters, and boards are also very much the same. They just have a lot less tedious and easier systems to learn.

My dad and brother both played ASL and I am probably one of very few women in the world to have played and own physical copies of ASL and a few ATS games because of them.

That's seriously cool.