Trick Help: Tre Flips/Laser Flips?

[ReactionaryEmo]

The title is self-explanatory. How do you good, proper looking 360 flips and Laser Flips? I'm just not figuring it out for some reason. Everytime I do what I believe is the correct motion in Regular stance (fast shuv-it motion on the right stick to the left and flicking diagonally left on the left stick) it always seems to more of an overscooped varial flip and vice versa for my attempts at Lasers. Am I doing the wrong stick motions? I'm mostly basing my idea of what I should be doing off of my experience with Session's controls for Tres and Lasers.

[Oops, I Crapped My Pants]

you have to scoop a shuv it, but keep holding it juuuust a bit longer than you normally would, while flicking a kickflip with the other stick. practice makes perfect just like if you were learning tre's irl.

[Påws°]

Scooping it faster also helps if you aren't getting the full rotation. I like this game because it's like skateboarding in real life. You have to get the muscle memory down to get the trick down.

[frisky777]

hold both sticks down and do a shuv on both analogs