Predecessor

Predecessor

Greaterios Oct 29, 2022 @ 11:10pm
Paragon: The Overprime
I read that Overprime became officially Paragon so what will happen to this game? and what will happen to the original Paragon assets it will be copyrighted to Overprime?
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4rcheniX Oct 30, 2022 @ 5:45pm 
It's the naming markering decision so they get rights to use "Paragon" brand name, nothing to do with the asset ownership. Overprime is stil Overprime with new name "Paragon: The Overprime".
Last edited by 4rcheniX; Oct 30, 2022 @ 5:46pm
Nano Oct 31, 2022 @ 8:41am 
Hi,
as far as I know

owner and copyright holder of Paragon is Epic Games.
Epic Games decided Paragon to shut down because they wanted to focus more on Fortnite.

In this decision, they decided to give the assets of Paragon for free for private and commercial use. Game Studios can use the assets for free to develop their own games only IF they are using Epic Games' game engine Unreal Engine.

The games I know that use the assets are:
-The First Descendant
-Fault: Elder Orb
-Paragon: The Overprime
-Predecessor
-and there are some more games in development

You cannot copyright Paragon's assets because the assets are part of Unreal Engine and the owner is Epic Games. Media websites are hyperbolic sometimes and Overprime became NOT officially Paragon. Overprime probably are taking this name to get the attention of old players and the name is a marketing tool for free.
I don't know about trademarks of "Paragon", but at the end it's just a name and does not represent the quality of the game.

We all know which game will take the crown at the end ;-)
Mayhem Nov 3, 2022 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by Nano:
Hi,
as far as I know

owner and copyright holder of Paragon is Epic Games.
Epic Games decided Paragon to shut down because they wanted to focus more on Fortnite.

In this decision, they decided to give the assets of Paragon for free for private and commercial use. Game Studios can use the assets for free to develop their own games only IF they are using Epic Games' game engine Unreal Engine.

The games I know that use the assets are:
-The First Descendant
-Fault: Elder Orb
-Paragon: The Overprime
-Predecessor
-and there are some more games in development

You cannot copyright Paragon's assets because the assets are part of Unreal Engine and the owner is Epic Games. Media websites are hyperbolic sometimes and Overprime became NOT officially Paragon. Overprime probably are taking this name to get the attention of old players and the name is a marketing tool for free.
I don't know about trademarks of "Paragon", but at the end it's just a name and does not represent the quality of the game.

We all know which game will take the crown at the end ;-)
so true Im one of said old players and Found both games just today and this is the game ill most likely be playing as it seems to be closer to what i remember and loved
Ascendant Rises Nov 3, 2022 @ 6:15am 
Saw the Overprime and ...I don't know what Omeda did with those 20 mil :)) cause boy... those guys work with much less and are very far ahead :)))))))))))))))))
Mayhem Nov 3, 2022 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Ascendant Rises:
Saw the Overprime and ...I don't know what Omeda did with those 20 mil :)) cause boy... those guys work with much less and are very far ahead :)))))))))))))))))
as some1 who is following both games due to recently learning about their existence....this game is far better visually appealing
Royal Nov 6, 2022 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Ascendant Rises:
Saw the Overprime and ...I don't know what Omeda did with those 20 mil :)) cause boy... those guys work with much less and are very far ahead :)))))))))))))))))

Work much less? Overprime have a massive team and a publisher that makes over 500 million a year lmao

They have way more resources put into them
Last edited by Royal; Nov 6, 2022 @ 7:23am
Greaterios Nov 6, 2022 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by HitPlay:
Originally posted by Ascendant Rises:
Saw the Overprime and ...I don't know what Omeda did with those 20 mil :)) cause boy... those guys work with much less and are very far ahead :)))))))))))))))))

Work much less? Overprime have a massive team and a publisher that makes over 500 million a year lmao

They have way more resources put into them

That's why i said maybe they will try to make a deal to copyright the game and the heroes so no one can use them to become a main game not just a fan made game with Epic Games assets to make it a legit Paragon game, and if u go to there site even the heroes names is the same as the one in Paragon.
Greaterios Nov 6, 2022 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Nano:
Hi,
as far as I know

owner and copyright holder of Paragon is Epic Games.
Epic Games decided Paragon to shut down because they wanted to focus more on Fortnite.

In this decision, they decided to give the assets of Paragon for free for private and commercial use. Game Studios can use the assets for free to develop their own games only IF they are using Epic Games' game engine Unreal Engine.

The games I know that use the assets are:
-The First Descendant
-Fault: Elder Orb
-Paragon: The Overprime
-Predecessor
-and there are some more games in development

You cannot copyright Paragon's assets because the assets are part of Unreal Engine and the owner is Epic Games. Media websites are hyperbolic sometimes and Overprime became NOT officially Paragon. Overprime probably are taking this name to get the attention of old players and the name is a marketing tool for free.
I don't know about trademarks of "Paragon", but at the end it's just a name and does not represent the quality of the game.

We all know which game will take the crown at the end ;-)

Maybe they will try to make a deal to copyright the game and the heroes so no one can use them, to become a main game not just a fan made game with Epic Games assets to make it a legit Paragon game, and if you go to there site even the heroes names is the same as the one in Paragon.
Royal Nov 6, 2022 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Greaterios:
Originally posted by HitPlay:

Work much less? Overprime have a massive team and a publisher that makes over 500 million a year lmao

They have way more resources put into them

That's why i said maybe they will try to make a deal to copyright the game and the heroes so no one can use them to become a main game not just a fan made game with Epic Games assets to make it a legit Paragon game, and if u go to there site even the heroes names is the same as the one in Paragon.

Yeah they only have the same names because they realised their original names sucked, who the ♥♥♥♥ wants Steel to be called Scott? lmao

It was a game that was trying to be it's own thing and slowly they are just trying to skin it as Paragon but keep the weird brawler feel to the game

It's not Paragon just because you slap a name on it, Predecessor also has the original Paragon names for heroes, doesn't change the fact it isn't Paragon
auDr3y Nov 6, 2022 @ 10:58pm 
You can say what you want, but as a total outsider, I was astounded to find that most people are routing for Predecessor > PtOP. Not that I have any faith in Netmarble ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever, but atleast they are being transparent with release dates, which in this day and age is more or less a must when it comes to player retention.

I've read that the hardcore fans seem to be tilting towards Predecessor as being the true follow up to Paragon - and my god do we need a new ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moba now - but not having indication of when and if this will ever release has me gravitating heavily towards PtOP; just bcause they atleast can push a game out.
Royal Nov 7, 2022 @ 3:50am 
Originally posted by auDr3y:
You can say what you want, but as a total outsider, I was astounded to find that most people are routing for Predecessor > PtOP. Not that I have any faith in Netmarble ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever, but atleast they are being transparent with release dates, which in this day and age is more or less a must when it comes to player retention.

I've read that the hardcore fans seem to be tilting towards Predecessor as being the true follow up to Paragon - and my god do we need a new ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moba now - but not having indication of when and if this will ever release has me gravitating heavily towards PtOP; just bcause they atleast can push a game out.

That's a really weird reason to prefer one over the other, Pred is coming out this year, Overprime doesn't actually know when it's fully releasing but they have a final test date... so what? lol

Having a date doesn't make a difference when overprimes combat and gameplay feels janky unless they have magically fixed all the issues since the last test, which i highly doubt because its felt janky since the first test
auDr3y Nov 7, 2022 @ 2:54pm 
Well if one gets the hype train going, the other will prolly fail - however, i wasn't in the loop of how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ netmarble is, so i'm 100% on pred no matter what now :D
JAPPADOG Nov 7, 2022 @ 6:35pm 
I wish we could just merge both predecessor and overprime though. We can't afford to split the playerbase. This whole gatekeeping argument is weird to me.

Basically, I think the first game to release will be the one that sticks around.
Last edited by JAPPADOG; Nov 7, 2022 @ 6:43pm
Royal Nov 8, 2022 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by JAPPADOG:
I wish we could just merge both predecessor and overprime though. We can't afford to split the playerbase. This whole gatekeeping argument is weird to me.

Basically, I think the first game to release will be the one that sticks around.

They are completely different games tbh, you'd end up with some weird hybrid

I'm just waiting for pred, not a fan of OP
Mayhem Nov 8, 2022 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by JAPPADOG:
I wish we could just merge both predecessor and overprime though. We can't afford to split the playerbase. This whole gatekeeping argument is weird to me.

Basically, I think the first game to release will be the one that sticks around.
at this point that would be a bad idea the Toxicity of the OP community is intolerable, their discord literally sits around and talks ♥♥♥♥ about Pred on the daily and any1 who disagrees with them and as Hitplay has stated they are two vastly different types of games
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