DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation

DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation

Bread Oct 17, 2024 @ 9:10am
[SOLVED] Are These Swimsuits Good?
I recently cashed 2 Nostalgic 2024/8 Tickets. I got 2 Power Ones:

Norimaki (Momiji) (※)

Alien Heart (Elise)

*Also I checked the DMM swimsuit database, the Alien Hearts that only appeared were the 2 Technique ones by Honoka and Luna. I did see the event page for the Power suits of the Alien Hearts Gacha (https://game.doaxvv.com/production/html/information/gacha_gl_0539_240125_1_0_6794a883623e658fae55277fa1033fd429785c07c823cde71f2a9883e859a714_en.html?GameView=Y) but didn't see any swimsuit details like after maxing out the suits and etc [been seeing this for some suits included in the free Monthly Nostalgic Gachas, idk must be a steam thing? *not existing/ not yet included in the DMM database]

Asking so I know which to awaken and Max between the 2 swimsuits since both have decent stats for POW suits and one cant have an awakened Bromide.
Last edited by Bread; Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:58am
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C♥@cH El Oct 19, 2024 @ 10:15am 
None are worth it to awaken, Alien Heart was meant for Luna's alien nature. Norimaki do not malfunction when awaken, Leifang's Norimaki better to awaken than Momiji's.
76561198944104247 Oct 19, 2024 @ 3:46pm 
Frankly speaking, don't.

If you don't like any of those, you shouldn't waste your gem on it.
Stat-wise, most of the good non-paid swimsuit came from collabs or anniversary. Those are the one you should want to spend your gem on.
While these two do have good POW stats, you should also check the skill.
Elise Alien Heart is good POW swimsuit, while Momiji Norimaki has crap skill with offensive POW skill & offensive TEC skill that would never work in tandem.
Lastly, you also needs to consider the girl speciality. Elise is TEC girl & Momiji is TEC oriented STM girl. Not only their POW stat is low, but none of them has any POW ssr accessory to push their stat higher unless you're willing to invest heavily on them to turn them into POW character.
Amanita Immortura Oct 20, 2024 @ 12:43pm 
According the doax.cc, Elise's Alien Hearts has offensive -50% of opponent's pow and own stm-saving. She is the tech-girl. This Suit is the ABSOLUTELY BEST for hybrid-build, which can overpowered any SSS-events. This suit MUST be in your second build .
Second in quality suit for hybrid build is opposite-crit and stamina-saving. Like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3135639283
Momiji's Norimaki has offensive +45% own pow-crit and offensive -50% opponent's tech (equal to tech-crit with no score-bonus). She is the tech-girl. This Suit is the thrid one for hybrid-build, which can overpowered any SSS-events. Still, you need some stm-manage: bromides could help in this.

All this suits is good for domination in pve-evets. And if you do not intention in pvp/rating, that will be your the only suit.
1) For tech-girls: Main-Tech-buid with pow-crit/penetration:
2) For pow-girls: main-Pow-build with tech-crit\penetration:
Opponent's stats absolutely doesnt matter in this case. The only one minus is low score: it can be compensate by [Fierce yell]-partner.

P.S. The First build for any tech-girl in pvp/rating is tech-score: tech-crit with [Sweet Feint]-skill (+30% score). You'll be use this build on rating-farm and arenas.
Last edited by Amanita Immortura; Oct 20, 2024 @ 2:19pm
Bread Oct 21, 2024 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by Amanita Immortura:
According the doax.cc, Elise's Alien Hearts has offensive -50% of opponent's pow and own stm-saving. She is the tech-girl. This Suit is the ABSOLUTELY BEST for hybrid-build, which can overpowered any SSS-events. This suit MUST be in your second build .
Second in quality suit for hybrid build is opposite-crit and stamina-saving. Like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3135639283
Momiji's Norimaki has offensive +45% own pow-crit and offensive -50% opponent's tech (equal to tech-crit with no score-bonus). She is the tech-girl. This Suit is the thrid one for hybrid-build, which can overpowered any SSS-events. Still, you need some stm-manage: bromides could help in this.

All this suits is good for domination in pve-evets. And if you do not intention in pvp/rating, that will be your the only suit.
1) For tech-girls: Main-Tech-buid with pow-crit/penetration:
2) For pow-girls: main-Pow-build with tech-crit\penetration:
Opponent's stats absolutely doesnt matter in this case. The only one minus is low score: it can be compensate by [Fierce yell]-partner.

P.S. The First build for any tech-girl in pvp/rating is tech-score: tech-crit with [Sweet Feint]-skill (+30% score). You'll be use this build on rating-farm and arenas.

So Besides having a Strong POW or TEC PP equipped on one of my two mains from awakening SSRs, I each aslo have to give them each awakened PP (equivalent to 10-13 PP) skills from STM SSRs?

Is this applicable only for hybrid builds only ^

or even applicable for POW Only / TEC focused builds

To clarify, is it essential to equip mains with STM PP (equivalent 10-13) besides the POW / TEC PPs [if focusing on POW only / TEC only] or is it ok to only focus on equipping POW / TEC?

and when choosing swimsuits to use for mains, do i always aim for suits with F skills or not necessarily?

Can u kindly list 3-5 POW suits & TEC suits which have the good stats; which I should set as the standard to focus on when aiming to make builds for POW only and TEC only
Last edited by Bread; Oct 21, 2024 @ 1:42am
Bread Oct 21, 2024 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Eiseiryuoujin:
Frankly speaking, don't.

If you don't like any of those, you shouldn't waste your gem on it.
Stat-wise, most of the good non-paid swimsuit came from collabs or anniversary. Those are the one you should want to spend your gem on.
While these two do have good POW stats, you should also check the skill.
Elise Alien Heart is good POW swimsuit, while Momiji Norimaki has crap skill with offensive POW skill & offensive TEC skill that would never work in tandem.
Lastly, you also needs to consider the girl speciality. Elise is TEC girl & Momiji is TEC oriented STM girl. Not only their POW stat is low, but none of them has any POW ssr accessory to push their stat higher unless you're willing to invest heavily on them to turn them into POW character.

Do u suggest I awaken suits from events like the the current 5.5 Anniv Slipstream?

other Annivs:
1 Anniv - First Rouge & Premier Night (POW. F Skill - Killer Spike)
2 Anniv - Mellow Plumage & Glorious Plumage (TEC. F Skill - Sweet Feint)
2.5 Anniv - Peach Party (POW. F Skill - Killer Spike)
3 Anniv - Étoile Briller (TEC. F Skill - Sweet Feint)
3.5 Anniv - Soleil Couchant (STM. F Skill - Killer Spike)
4 Anniv - Beauty of Nature (POW. F Skill - Killer Spike)
4.5 Anniv - Bunny Clock (STM. F Skill - Sweet Feint)
5 Anniv - Dea Marina [デア・マリーナ] (TEC. F Skill - Sweet Feint)
5.5 Anniv - Slipstream [スリップストリーム] (POW. F Skill - Fierce Yell)
6 Anniv - Cinderella Staircase [サンドリヨン・エスカリエ] (POW. F Skill - Killer Spike)
6.5 Anniv - Whimsical Cat Maid [きまぐれニャンメイド] (TEC. F Skill - Fierce Yell)

For Collabs, u mean like the My First Alchemy / Atelier Ryza Collab Event and the Azur Lane Collab? is that right?
Last edited by Bread; Oct 21, 2024 @ 2:07am
Amanita Immortura Oct 21, 2024 @ 3:21am 
Here is the standart pps-build for any setup, not only for pvp/rating-events. This build is absolutely easy for girls with 2 sr-pps (pow or tech) and 12pp-stamina from venus-suits: Hitomi, Momiji. Also Modified variant is easy for Marie Rose. Any girl with started 2%+5% (8pps) for tech or pow could have this build.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322338509
Formally, you need 3 stm-pps for making your girl survival. Plus 1 stm-skill to get stamina-cap: about 75% passive-saving and 1 active-skill. All small pps (4-5 pps in common, or 7pps with polisihg) should be tech/pow. In any builds. However, 1 stm-pp can be change to second stm-skill (if it possible): this way is using in hybrid, free stm-skill on suit will allow to use 1 big-pp with pow or tech (on your choice).

Alternative variant with 2 big stm plus 2 medium stm (7/8pp). 7+7pps and one 12/13pps can be swapped for free. With 12-pp tech. This is exactly Marie's way: all you need is basic Minuet (for Marie) and 2 any suits with unique stm-pps.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352444445
Older version: from what i started, when had no any third big pp; neither stm, neither tech.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322342686



Suits can be varied. It depends of your comfort to setup. For my Hitomi in pvp-arena and score-farming, i use Pow-suit with stm-skill. Or [Soleil Couchant] from current nostalgick-gacha (it depends of arena-season). Plus 3 critical strikes in bromides.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3129395299
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3326394559
What in total? Something like this, after a couple stamina-procs (over-healing will raise the params):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3344933835
For Marie Rose and Lobelia i use tech-suit with critical strike: bromides is 2 tech-crits and 1 stamina-saving:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3143830558
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3328032770

Second girl in main-setup might have any main-skill, but she should have [Fierce yell] to support the main girl: total bonus will be +30+30% to pow or tech attack, this is a wishful bonus in rating-farm. For ideal: you'll have the team with two identical builds, but with dirrerent Fever-skills. For example, the current anni-event's suits is one of the best for pow-girls. It's also suitable for tech-girl in pow-season: tech-builded support with 1 single (but huge) pow-crit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352446621

Hybrids is good for any type of events. But they are weak in score-farming. Thats why top-players have two build... at least. Somebody even use attacker/defender-setup with different-style girls, like Marie-tech/attacker and Honoka-pow/defender: it required some specific suits/build with attacker/defender-potentials and skills; It consumes the tons of resources. But hybrid and main uses the identical scheme: it's easy, it's cheap, it's stable. In your case, You even don't need to upgrade pow-pp on tech girl, unlike in my first screenshoot (tech-pp for Hitomi, huh...). Simply pow-suit with pow-penetration (it will destroy the opponets with 14..16k pow), based on full-tech build with 3 tech-crits bromides (20..30k tech-crits) .
Last edited by Amanita Immortura; Oct 21, 2024 @ 6:53am
Bread Oct 21, 2024 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Amanita Immortura:
Here is the standart pps-build for any setup, not only for pvp/rating-events. This build is absolutely easy for girls with 2 sr-pps (pow or tech) and 12pp-stamina from venus-suits: Hitomi, Momiji. Also Modified variant is easy for Marie Rose. Any girl with started 2%+5% (8pps) for tech or pow could have this build.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322338509
Formally, you need 3 stm-pps for making your girl survival. Plus 1 stm-skill to get stamina-cap: about 75% passive-saving and 1 active-skill. All small pps (4-5 pps in common, or 7pps with polisihg) should be tech/pow. In any builds. However, 1 stm-pp can be change to second stm-skill (if it possible): this way is using in hybrid, free stm-skill on suit will allow to use 1 big-pp with pow or tech (on your choice).

Alternative variant with 2 big stm plus 2 medium stm (7/8pp). 7+7pps and one 12/13pps can be swapped for free. With 12-pp tech. This is exactly Marie's way: all you need is basic Minuet (for Marie) and 2 any suits with unique stm-pps.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352444445
Older version: from what i started, when had no any third big pp; neither stm, neither tech.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3322342686



Suits can be varied. It depends of your comfort to setup. For my Hitomi in pvp-arena and score-farming, i use Pow-suit with stm-skill. Or [Soleil Couchant] from current nostalgick-gacha (it depends of arena-season). Plus 3 critical strikes in bromides.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3129395299
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3326394559
What in total? Something like this, after a couple stamina-procs (over-healing will raise the params):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3344933835
For Marie Rose and Lobelia i use tech-suit with critical strike: bromides is 2 tech-crits and 1 stamina-saving:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3143830558
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3328032770

Second girl in main-setup might have any main-skill, but she should have [Fierce yell] to support the main girl: total bonus will be +30+30% to pow or tech attack, this is a wishful bonus in rating-farm. For ideal: you'll have the team with two identical builds, but with dirrerent Fever-skills. For example, the current anni-event's suits is one of the best for pow-girls. It's also suitable for tech-girl in pow-season: tech-builded support with 1 single (but huge) pow-crit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352446621

Hybrids is good for any type of events. But they are weak in score-farming. Thats why top-players have two build... at least. Somebody even use attacker/defender-setup with different-style girls, like Marie-tech/attacker and Honoka-pow/defender: it required some specific suits/build with attacker/defender-potentials and skills; It consumes the tons of resources. But hybrid and main uses the identical scheme: it's easy, it's cheap, it's stable. In your case, You even don't need to upgrade pow-pp on tech girl, unlike in my first screenshoot (tech-pp for Hitomi, huh...). Simply pow-suit with pow-penetration (it will destroy the opponets with 14..16k pow), based on full-tech build with 3 tech-crits bromides (20..30k tech-crits) .


Thanks so much my guy, will see and study up how I move on with my builds and my Main selection after this event.

I am strongly leaning towards a Hitomi and Misaki duo POW build.
(I am oddly always lucky with these 2 which is what got me hooked in the game in the first place lol, even without spending I somewhat always get SSRs from their gachas)

My Strong POW swimsuits for each:

Hitomi - Slipstream, Bubbly Foam [Awakened], Stylish Bloomers, First Rouge.

Misaki - Slipstream [Awakened], Sandwich, First Rouge.

(Hitomi has Killer Spike and Misaki has Fierce Yell for appeal points, Hitomi can both be good for offense and defense, but Misaki is purely offense and boosting appeal gain).

Im using both Slipstream suit for the current event. Aiming for the upcoming event which offers Dolce Banane for Hitomi lol (it was mentioned as the biggest whaling event by someone high level)

Again very helpful stuff. I guess prioritizing your mains are a must always during events that offer any type of boost like Rock Climbing events or easy to get SSR item events like the recent one which gave 20 tickets for an SSR accessory.

Will wait and regrind the next upcoming rock climb definitely. And those pool hopping events that give softening skills, I think a guy said on reddit I need around 32K V Stone saved when Pool Hopping returns for roulette wheels.
Last edited by Bread; Oct 21, 2024 @ 11:46am
Rik P. Oct 21, 2024 @ 2:01pm 
That event in November is going to be THE whaling event, that's true. However...

Since their introduction the birthday dresses have come in themed series over the years.
They started out with suits based on the girls' zodiac signs, the Stellar series. The following year there was the Jewel series based on gemstones associated with the girls' birth months; after that the Bouquet series did the same with flowers, and the Dolce dresses were themed after fruits. May had Dolce Banane for Nagisa and Hitomi, yes.

The still ongoing series (soon Tsukushi will be the last girl to receive her dress) is called Makeup with wildly varying themes for each month's birthday girls. The next series that starts in the middle of November will be known as Rebirth or something to that effect - Fantasy class-themed suits with some clever references, like Kokoro being archer class because of her zodiac sign Sagittarius.

Phew. Why am I telling you all this long-winded stuff? See, every November there is an event that functions as a rerun of that current year's birthday dress series, giving whales another chance to roll for any dresses for their favourites they might have missed the first time around. And this year the rerun will be for the Makeup SSRs.

Which sadly means it will be VERY hard to get Hitomi's Dolce dress. I assume the Gachas will have every girl's other birthday SSRs in the Gacha pool on her respective banner, but at a massively reduced drop chance. 0.1% I think. The probability to win Hitomi's Dolce Banane from her Makeup banner is astronomically low.

Wait for Hitomi's next birthday! It will feature a dedicated banner with Dolce Banane and Bouquet Carnation bundled together. Still a low chance to actually win that specific dress, but much higher than 0.1% nonetheless.

Or go for Hitomi's Makeup Cedar. But in my personal opinion the Dolce SSRs are THE best series of birthday suits available by far thanks to their dual nature of raising attack power and conserving stamina at the same time.
Bread Oct 21, 2024 @ 2:09pm 
Appreciate the effort in giving knowledge tysm my guyI actually did see that the May event had the Dolce Dresses for Hitomi and Nagisa (I was having thoughts that if the Dolce Dresses will reappear it will most likely be a hard to get event), your explanation confirms my suspicions HAHA (cries deep inside lol)

I guess Novembers whaling event is really for the loaded and maybe lucky, but stiill thanks HAHA good luck to those ready to fight on Nov's Whaling event!
Last edited by Bread; Oct 21, 2024 @ 2:22pm
Rik P. Oct 21, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
The chance to win a different suit from such a banner might be very low, but it CAN happen:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352726927
This is what I got one year ago when I did one ten-draw on a Dolce banner just for access to the birthday matches and the girl's extra episodes.
Bread Oct 21, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Rik P.:
The chance to win a different suit from such a banner might be very low, but it CAN happen:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352726927
This is what I got one year ago when I did one ten-draw on a Dolce banner just for access to the birthday matches and the girl's extra episodes.

SHEESH First try is fire damn, Even if its for the purposes of bday matches, a golden pull still fire my guy.
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