DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation

DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation

Lezukion May 1, 2024 @ 12:49pm
Need explanation on the Strategy system
I never knew there a way to work-around the region lock, and I finally got this game running on Steam in USA. I'm a big fan of the DoA franchise!

Anyway, I'm new. I have no idea how the strategy system works with the Attack Methods, Attacker, and Target. What are the pros and cons of each selection?

Thank you in advance!
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Peter Miklos May 1, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
First of all, you should absolutely read this guide, it helped me so much!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1695539441

As for the tactics, in the early game, you can select auto tactics. Later, you should read your and the enemy's stats (POW,TEC,STM). And for example set the character with the higher TEC (or POW) to attack the enemy with the lower stats. As for the attack type, I use feint mainly for TEC, and spike for POW.
Sometimes, whatever you choose, if the game wants you to lose, you will lose. :steamhappy:
(And the same for win)
But as I said, if you have the time, you should read through the guide! :steamhappy:
Lezukion May 1, 2024 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Peter Miklos:
First of all, you should absolutely read this guide, it helped me so much!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1695539441

As for the tactics, in the early game, you can select auto tactics. Later, you should read your and the enemy's stats (POW,TEC,STM). And for example set the character with the higher TEC (or POW) to attack the enemy with the lower stats. As for the attack type, I use feint mainly for TEC, and spike for POW.
Sometimes, whatever you choose, if the game wants you to lose, you will lose. :steamhappy:
(And the same for win)
But as I said, if you have the time, you should read through the guide! :steamhappy:
Ah I see, thank you! I will read it later.

Originally posted by Peter Miklos:
Sometimes, whatever you choose, if the game wants you to lose, you will lose. :steamhappy:
For real!? lmao
Peter Miklos May 1, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Lezukion:
For real!? lmao
Luckily, most of the time, the tactics works. But there are occasions, when I lose to the CPU 0-8, and after the next match, with the same parameters I won 8-0. :steamhappy:
zephusdragon May 1, 2024 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Peter Miklos:
Sometimes, whatever you choose, if the game wants you to lose, you will lose.
It's not as simple as that.
Basically for every point attempt, the game "rolls a die". This determines what attack type is used, who uses it, and where it goes. There is obviously a weight given to who you choose to be the attacker, what attack type, and your chosen target. If it's the PC team it's basically a coin flip for all three. Sometimes, however, this means that the RNG throws your choice out the window. Then after that it determines what attack bonuses are activated, and then finally adds a random number to the total attack strength and defense strength. The highest total wins, if it's the attack a point is scored, if it's the defense, then the attack fails and the defending team has a chance to score.
Spikes are POW vs POW and Feints are TEC vs TEC. Venuses have a preferred attack type, but I think that only adds to their total strength and not to the RNG chance.
If you are overwhelmingly stronger than the opposing team, you will always win, simply because your attack strength is much higher than theirs.
Sometimes in close matches (especially in SS+ and SSS ranks) it's totally possible for the RNG to screw you over, and have the PC team always attack with their advantage stat and there is nothing you can do about it.
Also I say PC team, this applies to any team the PC rolls for. In versus matches you are technically playing against a player created team, but the PC treats that team as their own, and rolls with neutral weight.
Peter Miklos May 1, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by zephusdragon:
Originally posted by Peter Miklos:
Sometimes, whatever you choose, if the game wants you to lose, you will lose.
It's not as simple as that.
Basically for every point attempt, the game "rolls a die". This determines what attack type is used, who uses it, and where it goes. There is obviously a weight given to who you choose to be the attacker, what attack type, and your chosen target. If it's the PC team it's basically a coin flip for all three. Sometimes, however, this means that the RNG throws your choice out the window. Then after that it determines what attack bonuses are activated, and then finally adds a random number to the total attack strength and defense strength. The highest total wins, if it's the attack a point is scored, if it's the defense, then the attack fails and the defending team has a chance to score.
Spikes are POW vs POW and Feints are TEC vs TEC. Venuses have a preferred attack type, but I think that only adds to their total strength and not to the RNG chance.
If you are overwhelmingly stronger than the opposing team, you will always win, simply because your attack strength is much higher than theirs.
Sometimes in close matches (especially in SS+ and SSS ranks) it's totally possible for the RNG to screw you over, and have the PC team always attack with their advantage stat and there is nothing you can do about it.
Also I say PC team, this applies to any team the PC rolls for. In versus matches you are technically playing against a player created team, but the PC treats that team as their own, and rolls with neutral weight.
Oh, I see! Thank you for the detailed information! When you say it like that, it's really logical! To be honest, I played more than 1700 hours, but I never thought it as a dice roll (for example like in a DND game). It's great to learn new stuff even after so many gameplay. :steamhappy:
Lezukion May 1, 2024 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by zephusdragon:
Originally posted by Peter Miklos:
Sometimes, whatever you choose, if the game wants you to lose, you will lose.
It's not as simple as that.
Basically for every point attempt, the game "rolls a die". This determines what attack type is used, who uses it, and where it goes. There is obviously a weight given to who you choose to be the attacker, what attack type, and your chosen target. If it's the PC team it's basically a coin flip for all three. Sometimes, however, this means that the RNG throws your choice out the window. Then after that it determines what attack bonuses are activated, and then finally adds a random number to the total attack strength and defense strength. The highest total wins, if it's the attack a point is scored, if it's the defense, then the attack fails and the defending team has a chance to score.
Spikes are POW vs POW and Feints are TEC vs TEC. Venuses have a preferred attack type, but I think that only adds to their total strength and not to the RNG chance.
If you are overwhelmingly stronger than the opposing team, you will always win, simply because your attack strength is much higher than theirs.
Sometimes in close matches (especially in SS+ and SSS ranks) it's totally possible for the RNG to screw you over, and have the PC team always attack with their advantage stat and there is nothing you can do about it.
Also I say PC team, this applies to any team the PC rolls for. In versus matches you are technically playing against a player created team, but the PC treats that team as their own, and rolls with neutral weight.
Thank you for the details!
Keyrock May 1, 2024 @ 2:51pm 
The simple answer is that you set the strategy and then your ladies ignore it. I'm convinced it's a placebo. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
Lezukion May 1, 2024 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by Keyrock:
The simple answer is that you set the strategy and then your ladies ignore it. I'm convinced it's a placebo. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
That would be the best way to troll players lol
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