DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation

DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation

Yelleda Sep 19, 2019 @ 6:05pm
New DOA Girls
Am I the only one who's annoyed by the fact that, except Leifang, no DOA girls were added to the game ?
I mean, on the DMM Version they got 6 totally random girls (Luna, Tamaki, Fiona, Nagisa, Kanna, Monica), for only one actual Doa character (Leifang).
Where are Tina, Lisa, Christie, Mila, or even Nico from DOA 6 ???
I really hope they'll be added in the game soon enough, or I, at least, won't stay on the game for a long time...
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BloodBurgerOne Sep 28, 2019 @ 10:58pm 
I wouldn't say Tina isn't popular. She just isn't popular over there. If this game was released in the west she'd be in.
Freestyle Oct 2, 2019 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Yelleda:
Originally posted by Freestyle:
She barely got any votes, she aint popular enough to be put in these games

Having less vote than Kasumi or Honoka doesn't mean she's not popular. In the poll you had to vote for your fav character, in my case it was Kokoro, but it does not mean I don't like other girls... I think the girl I like the least is Mila, but even if I'm not a huge fan of her, I'd rather have her than any of the girls that were added to the DMM version...
Lol she got less votes then everyone

Poll results:
Marie Rose (17.6%)
Honoka (14.9%)
Kasumi (12.0%)
Ayane (8.2%)
Kokoro (8.0%)
Nyotengu (7.6%)
Hitomi (5.9%)
Momiji (5.1%)
Helena Douglas (4.9%)

and Leifang was 10th, Misaki was a popular addition to this game so was added there as well.

They dont really care about what characters are more popular in the West
otness_e Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:32am 
Heck, I'd argue that Tina's pretty popular in Japan, since she was probably got the second highest votes of the girls that got cut (only being below Leifang). Not to mention she actually sold Japanese merchandise, something an unpopular character in Japan would not be able to do.

I'm tolerating the new girls solely because it at least ALLOWS the opportunity to let the cut girls in. But my patience is wearing thin right now, especially when despite clearly planning on adding Christie, Mila and Rachel into the game based on datamines, they ended up adding Kanna instead of Christie. Monica I could tolerate a bit more because at least she brought in a new minigame.

And quite frankly, one thing I'm irritated at far more than their adding in new girls over the cut girls is that they're not even bothering to allow them into DOA6 for extremely stupid reasons like that they're "not fighters" (not to mention any chance of them appearing as DLC other than MAYBE Kanna and Tamaki is made impossible thanks to how they completely blew it regarding Honoka and Marie Rose's friendship in DOA6 by acting like they were total strangers before 6, and that was despite debuting in 5LR). I'm sorry, but if they're going to make Lisa a fighter and even an important character in her own right despite being no different from the XVV girls by debuting in a beach vacation simulator instead of an actual fighting game, they might as well do the same to the others. And right now, I'm fearing they're going to make this SKD lady that's coming to DOA6 the next girl to add in as part of a collaboration than one of the cut girls. And the DOAXVV developers know that people want the cut girls. In fact, they specifically said they added in Leifang because, and I quote, "there's a deep love for the classic DOA girls." Well, if you know, just hurry up and add them in, don't waste time!
Skere Kaan Dec 9, 2019 @ 3:44pm 
if they add mila and tina it's good enough. nn lisa or christie
otness_e Dec 9, 2019 @ 5:52pm 
Don't forget Rachel. If Momiji can be a character in DOAXVV, so can Rachel. As far as Lisa and Christie, they had them in XBV and X2 (heck, Lisa if anything DEBUTED in DOAXBV), so keeping them out makes no sense.
"can" and "want" are entirely different matter

sure, they can add the characters
but after they actually add the characters, they need to occasionally give her swimsuits, in-game and offline events, make some interaction with the other girls, call their VAs to voice some stuffs, and so on, and so on
you played the game, you know what the girls are doing in it

assuming the fact those girls were added some times ago (if the datamining was correct), then abandoned later, pretty much means that for whatever reason they decided that they dont want to or that it doesnt worth the trouble
Last edited by Blue Eyes White Coffee; Dec 9, 2019 @ 6:28pm
Yelleda Dec 9, 2019 @ 7:01pm 
I don't see how it would be any more worth to add some new random characters, rather than adding characters they already made the 3D model for Doa5...
Well you should
It's working and they keep doing it for the whole year so there gotta be something up about it right?
In fact they just made another one and already in the middle of making the next one
Last edited by Blue Eyes White Coffee; Dec 9, 2019 @ 7:56pm
otness_e Dec 9, 2019 @ 7:58pm 
"can" and "want" are entirely different matter

sure, they can add the characters
but after they actually add the characters, they need to occasionally give her swimsuits, in-game and offline events, make some interaction with the other girls, call their VAs to voice some stuffs, and so on, and so on
you played the game, you know what the girls are doing in it

assuming the fact those girls were added some times ago (if the datamining was correct), then abandoned later, pretty much means that for whatever reason they decided that they dont want to or that it doesnt worth the trouble

Well, they certainly know that there's a very high demand for the old DOA girls, since Sakuta D. admitted as much when explaining his reasons for Leifang even being in DOAXVV at all (and bear in mind, his commentary on such was VERY recent. I believe his exact words were that one of the reasons Leifang was added was because "there was a deep love for the classic DOA girls."). That alone would make it worth the effort to put them in.

And as far as the other stuff, Leifang already is getting new outfits, in-game and offline events, and has interactions with the other girls. In fact, she recently interacted with Nagisa. Besides, they already have to call in the VAs for new lines of dialogue for new DLC for DOA6 anyways, so it's not too much trouble.

Heck, when making a tweet requesting that they add in the cut girls (Tina, Christie, and Lisa, bare minimum. Would have added Mila and Rachel, but they technically aren't "classic DOA girls" due to being fairly recent), I even made sure to post the Famitsu page where they said that much:

https://twitter.com/EricOtness1/status/1202542508380770304

And let's not forget this bit:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/64bfabbcbcc5e36813b636ecddb894ef/421fe69a5d7401e8-93/s1280x1920/88aa436d192167912e66f3f78c48a4eada9a3c65.jpg

One of the questions even was about whether they'll add in other DOA girls besides Leifang, and Sakuta D. implied that it is a likely possibility, though nothing certain.

Like I said, adding character to VV is more than porting the model into the game
Unless, of course, if you're fine with them being lifeless, loreless dolls and forgotten in the next month

They're not loreless. Heck, if anything, Leifang got MUCH more lore in DOAXVV than she did in DOA6, and I'm fairly certain that the likes of Tina, Mila, Rachel, Christie, and Lisa will get similar development. And heck, they certainly aren't forgotten either.
Last edited by otness_e; Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:13pm
Uh either you forgot the quote tag or that's simply your post style
Either way it's hard to read lol

Can you fix that?
Last edited by Blue Eyes White Coffee; Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:10pm
otness_e Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by Blue Eyes White Coffee:
Uh either you forgot the quote tag or that's simply your post style
Either way it's hard to read lol

Can you fix that?
Just did.
Crazy DAC Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:38pm 
By the way, does anyone think they must rebuild the model for different version? I'm not play DoA5 so I'm not sure but compare DoAXVV and DoA6, they somewhat different.

And I think rebuild a model that look same as old model is harder than build a new model.
Thank you ❤️

Originally posted by otness_e:
I believe his exact words were that one of the reasons Leifang was added was because "there was a deep love for the classic DOA girls."). That alone would make it worth the effort to put them in.
and that she pretty much had the same vote points as Helena (or whoever kicked her from the DOAX3 roster :3 )
the other girls, though, not so much


Originally posted by otness_e:
And as far as the other stuff, Leifang already is getting new outfits, in-game and offline events, and has interactions with the other girls. In fact, she recently interacted with Nagisa. Besides, they already have to call in the VAs for new lines of dialogue for new DLC for DOA6 anyways, so it's not too much trouble..
Originally posted by otness_e:
They're not loreless. Heck, if anything, Leifang got MUCH more lore in DOAXVV than she did in DOA6, and I'm fairly certain that the likes of Tina, Mila, Rachel, Christie, and Lisa will get similar development. And heck, they certainly aren't forgotten either.
well yeah, see what i mean?
when someone joined the VV, they will keep adding her new lines, new stories, new lores, and other stuffs
we know DOAX is a spin-off, but heck they have a lot more of stuff to say than the main series
it's a lot of efforts to keep them "alive" for months and years of the game service
it's not just about "lets put this girl model inside the game and be done with it", like what happened to Momiji in DOA6

btw theres no new dialogues for any of VV's missing characters in DOA6's DLCs
at least, none that i know of



Originally posted by otness_e:
Heck, when making a tweet requesting that they add in the cut girls (Tina, Christie, and Lisa, bare minimum. Would have added Mila and Rachel, but they technically aren't "classic DOA girls" due to being fairly recent), I even made sure to post the Famitsu page where they said that much:

https://twitter.com/EricOtness1/status/1202542508380770304

And let's not forget this bit:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/64bfabbcbcc5e36813b636ecddb894ef/421fe69a5d7401e8-93/s1280x1920/88aa436d192167912e66f3f78c48a4eada9a3c65.jpg

One of the questions even was about whether they'll add in other DOA girls besides Leifang, and Sakuta D. implied that it is a likely possibility, though nothing certain.
i can't read anything so i wont comment anything on it xD
Last edited by Blue Eyes White Coffee; Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:58pm
Originally posted by Crazy DAC:
By the way, does anyone think they must rebuild the model for different version? I'm not play DoA5 so I'm not sure but compare DoAXVV and DoA6, they somewhat different.

And I think rebuild a model that look same as old model is harder than build a new model.
AFAIK, DOAXVV is an improved version of DOAX3, which is an improved version of DOA5LR
they all are pretty much the same and use the same base engine

DOAX4 might use the DOA6 model and im SO waiting for it :3
Last edited by Blue Eyes White Coffee; Dec 9, 2019 @ 8:52pm
otness_e Dec 10, 2019 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by Blue Eyes White Coffee:
Thank you ❤️

Originally posted by otness_e:
I believe his exact words were that one of the reasons Leifang was added was because "there was a deep love for the classic DOA girls."). That alone would make it worth the effort to put them in.
and that she pretty much had the same vote points as Helena (or whoever kicked her from the DOAX3 roster :3 )
the other girls, though, not so much


Originally posted by otness_e:
And as far as the other stuff, Leifang already is getting new outfits, in-game and offline events, and has interactions with the other girls. In fact, she recently interacted with Nagisa. Besides, they already have to call in the VAs for new lines of dialogue for new DLC for DOA6 anyways, so it's not too much trouble..
Originally posted by otness_e:
They're not loreless. Heck, if anything, Leifang got MUCH more lore in DOAXVV than she did in DOA6, and I'm fairly certain that the likes of Tina, Mila, Rachel, Christie, and Lisa will get similar development. And heck, they certainly aren't forgotten either.
well yeah, see what i mean?
when someone joined the VV, they will keep adding her new lines, new stories, new lores, and other stuffs
we know DOAX is a spin-off, but heck they have a lot more of stuff to say than the main series
it's a lot of efforts to keep them "alive" for months and years of the game service
it's not just about "lets put this girl model inside the game and be done with it", like what happened to Momiji in DOA6

btw theres no new dialogues for any of VV's missing characters in DOA6's DLCs
at least, none that i know of



Originally posted by otness_e:
Heck, when making a tweet requesting that they add in the cut girls (Tina, Christie, and Lisa, bare minimum. Would have added Mila and Rachel, but they technically aren't "classic DOA girls" due to being fairly recent), I even made sure to post the Famitsu page where they said that much:

https://twitter.com/EricOtness1/status/1202542508380770304

And let's not forget this bit:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/64bfabbcbcc5e36813b636ecddb894ef/421fe69a5d7401e8-93/s1280x1920/88aa436d192167912e66f3f78c48a4eada9a3c65.jpg

One of the questions even was about whether they'll add in other DOA girls besides Leifang, and Sakuta D. implied that it is a likely possibility, though nothing certain.
i can't read anything so i wont comment anything on it xD

I was referring more to the fight intros regarding DOA6 for Momiji and Rachel (not to mention Mai Shiranui and Kula Diamond), since I'm pretty sure those are going to be/were new.

As far as Leifang and Famitsu, at least going by Bing Translator, they indicated that the audience had a deep love for ALL the classic DOA girls, not just Leifang (I'm pretty sure if they meant just Leifang, they would have said "The audience had a deep love for Leifang" without even indicating other classic DOA girls.").

And anyways, here's the Japanese text for Leifang's entry:

作田Dが語るレイファンの登理由

オーナーの皆さんにみさき、ルナ、たまきを受け入れていただき、深い愛情を注いでいただきました。それと同時に、多くの方からレイファンの登場をご要望としていただき、長い歴史を持つ「DOA」の女の子たちに対する深い愛情も実感しました。「DOAXVV」は長く運営していきたかったですし、たくさんのオーナーの皆さんの要望としっかりと向き合うべきであろうと考え、真剣に検討した結果、“格闘ゲームのナンバリング最新作である「DOA6」発表記念として、レイファンの登場を決断したのです。

(Translation:

The reason why Leifang is going to be talked about by Sakuda D

The owner accepted Misaki, Luna and Tamaki, and gave us a deep love. At the same time, many people requested the appearance of Leifang, and I realized my deep love for the DOA girls who have a long history. I wanted to run "DOAXVV" for a long time, and I thought that I should face the demands of many owners, and as a result of serious consideration, "as a commemoration of the announcement of "DOA6", the latest numbering of fighting games, I decided to have Leifang.)

Granted, due to how Japanese syntax works and how that's difficult to translate ESPECIALLY via internet translators, it's hard to tell if he's referring to himself or to the audience, but I'm pretty sure he's referring to the latter.

Also this bit:

Qレイファン以外の「DOA」キャラクターは今後登場しますか?
作田ファンの皆様の熱意はちゃんと伝わっております。今後については検討中の事案が多く、まだ話すことはできませんが、引き続きプロデューサーと相談のうえ、あらゆる可能性を検討させていただきます。

Qどんけつゲームなど、 『DOAX3」に登場していたコンテンツが今後登場することは?
作田何かしらの形で実現したいと思いますが、「DOAXVV」で提供するからには、どのようにアレンジすればいいかを考えている段階ですね。


(Translation:Q Will "DOA" characters other than Leifang appear in the future?
The enthusiasm of the Sakuda fans is conveyed. There are many cases under consideration for the future, and we cannot talk about it yet, but we will continue to consult with the producer to discuss all possibilities.

QDonkotsu game, content that appeared in "DOAX3" will appear in the future?
Sakuda: I would like to achieve this in some form, but I am at the stage where I am thinking about how to arrange it because it is provided with DOAXVV.)

May need some corrections, but it does indicate that Sakuta D. is very much considering adding them in.

Originally posted by Blue Eyes White Coffee:
Originally posted by Crazy DAC:
By the way, does anyone think they must rebuild the model for different version? I'm not play DoA5 so I'm not sure but compare DoAXVV and DoA6, they somewhat different.

And I think rebuild a model that look same as old model is harder than build a new model.
AFAIK, DOAXVV is an improved version of DOAX3, which is an improved version of DOA5LR
they all are pretty much the same and use the same base engine

DOAX4 might use the DOA6 model and im SO waiting for it :3

I probably wouldn't count on it, especially when DOA6 was a massive bomb. Besides, DOA6's engine was actually pretty inferior to the Soft Engine, being largely rehashed from Dynasty Warrior 9's engine, and certainly something that's not likely to work for something like the Xtreme series.
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