Ida - no balance, too much healing

[Sasha]

I can't use three powerful warriors to pass 1 unbalanced Ida ♥♥♥♥♥, that manages to heal all of their damage, and when paired with some support, such as Liberty/Lily, I don't do any damage at all. What is this unbalanced ♥♥♥♥? How to fight against this unbalanced Ida, which overcomes all the damage of 3 top warriors of my team, who simultaneously deal damage to her alone (Adriana, Shade, Virtus). Adriana Dmg ~ 2.700.00 ATK SPD 300; Shade Dmg ~ 4,000,000 ATK SPD 357; Virtus Dmg ~ 1,900,000 ATK SPD 413. The critical chance of all my girls is 100%, that is, it is at least damage *2, and with all this, I very rarely kill this Ida, and most often just pass 90 seconds and I lose in time. Please fix this ♥♥♥♥. Or delete this Ida ♥♥♥♥♥.
You reduced the damage to Shade in the last update, very much "not thank you", now there is no point in playing at all against a team that has an Ida.

[random]

Any kind of defense reduction overwhelms her eventually. Brooke is usually the go-to. Felicity or Scourge could also work. Orion is garbage tier, her numbers are a joke. But the others would work.

Find a stable setup and go for something that escalates over time, plus def reduction. Lilith would be ideal and is what most people use.

Stuns and taunts also have an effect. Anything that is stunned or taunted doesnt cast spells.

If all else fails, evade. Use something like Belladonna to swap your teammates from front to back, or simply set your team up on either top or bot side and create some space, then try to find a drop spot where a maiden is far enough away from the enemy team so that it runs directly to the enemy guardian. Check bumbooms site to see if you got something that has a low vision radius.

[ejcassel]

Ida? Ida?? Not Astrid, or Shade or Lilith? Ida??? You don't have ranged skill damage on your team? Not to mention Brooke, Scourge or even Felicity melt her defense quickly, making her an easy kill. You need to look at more than one strategy before getting frustrated. It'll take you several strategies to get past Astrid, and once you do you'll climb to the upper ranks.

[Sasha]

random eredeti hozzászólása:

Any kind of defense reduction overwhelms her eventually. Brooke is usually the go-to. Felicity or Scourge could also work. Orion is garbage tier, her numbers are a joke. But the others would work.

Find a stable setup and go for something that escalates over time, plus def reduction. Lilith would be ideal and is what most people use.

Stuns and taunts also have an effect. Anything that is stunned or taunted doesnt cast spells.

If all else fails, evade. Use something like Belladonna to swap your teammates from front to back, or simply set your team up on either top or bot side and create some space, then try to find a drop spot where a maiden is far enough away from the enemy team so that it runs directly to the enemy guardian. Check bumbooms site to see if you got something that has a low vision radius.

Why won't Orion work? She has a defense-crushing skill that builds up over time, but even with her on the team, I can't always win.

I unfortunately don't have Lilith. I currently have 1,200 Soul Shards out of the 2,000 needed to create her.
Perhaps Lilith would be a good solution, but I do not have it now, for more than a year playing the game I can not save up for it soul Shards, with all this I have a VIP 13 and I periodically buy ingredients.




Confuse, taunt and stun give short-term effects, which are not always enough. Shade can be stun enemies for 1 sec, but this is not enough; Adriana gives taunt for 5.1 sec, but this is not enough, or it does not work properly, because even using these effects Ida casts a spell. And then Stun, confuse or taunt are useless, as the spell itself repeats several times causing increased healing to herself and damage to my warriors.




The Confuse skill doesn't always work properly if it's intended for a single target, as I can't choose a specific opponent that I need to make confused to. I want to turn off Ida, and it acts on another character that is closer than her.
In addition, the enemy in the confusion is wildly rushing around the map and dealing damage to this enemy is very limited.
The developers decided to make fun of us, because it takes too many resources to isolate and kill a single enemy. While the other 4 enemy warriors won't just look at you.
In the party with Lily, she (Ida) recites the spell almost constantly.

[Sasha]

ejcassel eredeti hozzászólása:

Ida? Ida?? Not Astrid, or Shade or Lilith? Ida??? You don't have ranged skill damage on your team? Not to mention Brooke, Scourge or even Felicity melt her defense quickly, making her an easy kill. You need to look at more than one strategy before getting frustrated. It'll take you several strategies to get past Astrid, and once you do you'll climb to the upper ranks.

Now I have 76 out of 135 girls. I don't have Scourge, Astrid and Lilith. Other girls have various disadvantages and tactics can be adapted to them. For example, Astrid needs to lower her defense and kill, she doesn't have a permanent cure, Shade will die over time, just need to wait. Lilith is not immortal, the most important thing is not to let her approach your guardian.
Ida is the only one who can not be crushed by damage, she constantly and very effectively treats herself and others.

[Sasha]

ejcassel eredeti hozzászólása:

I have already reached the master division, there is a top 10 ahead. And in fact, I don't have much to strive for anymore. If I had used 1 tactic like you say, I wouldn't have gotten this far. BUT I get annoyed by people who say "hey dude try a different tactic". I know a lot of tactics, it's just that some people refuse to admit that Ida is an unbalanced ♥♥♥♥♥.

[Ardanis]

If you reached master, then you should know that using three warriors on offense is a capital NO.

PS Actually, without Lilith it's not really supposed to be possible to compete in top ranks anymore. Those are now oversaturated with all kinds of mastery system users, so without full meta team there's little to be done about them.

[Sasha]

Ardanis eredeti hozzászólása:

If you reached master, then you should know that using three warriors on offense is a capital NO.

PS Actually, without Lilith it's not really supposed to be possible to compete in top ranks anymore. Those are now oversaturated with all kinds of mastery system users, so without full meta team there's little to be done about them.

I don't have Lilith on my team, and I calmly kill her when she comes across me. But even it doesn't cause as many problems as Ida. Why can't I have 3 warriors on my team? I calmly kill teams stronger than mine if they don't have an Ida. My team's strength is now 9,104,187.

[random]

Orion takes about 10 billion years to have any noticable effect. Her numbers and her CD just dont add up. You will never get through an enemy def with Orion. She is a failure and a trap. The duration of the fight is limited. In that duration, no amount of CDR will make orion valid.

Lilith is strong, but not do or die. You can get by without having her.

If adriannas taunt doesnt work, that means the maidens you are enchanting have stun immunity.

I really recommend testing against various opponents and trying to figure out how to position and reposition your maidens so that you can expose the enemy backline to your DPS. Stretching the enemy team helps a lot against an AOE healer. She cannot heal ALL regions of the arena at once.

Also, mathematically speaking, your real obstacle is liberty. If you can kill either of those two, the other one should fall eventually.

[Sasha]

random eredeti hozzászólása:

Thank you very much for your help, you are the only one who tried to help me today. I'll try again.

[random]

Good luck. I would try to sneek a peak at bumbooms website, try to figure out some attack breakpoints and see which maidens can go into overdrive attacks. Then, for kicks and giggles, use Heather in your team. I was always fascinated by the idea of having RIDICULOUS amounts of attack speed in a Heather/Virtus team xD needs some careful tuning though. And lifesteal/ignore dodge/death immunity

[Sasha]

random eredeti hozzászólása:

Good luck. I would try to sneek a peak at bumbooms website, try to figure out some attack breakpoints and see which maidens can go into overdrive attacks. Then, for kicks and giggles, use Heather in your team. I was always fascinated by the idea of having RIDICULOUS amounts of attack speed in a Heather/Virtus team xD needs some careful tuning though. And lifesteal/ignore dodge/death immunity

This may be difficult, because it (Heather) has not yet fallen out. Although I have opened a lot of Gacha, Promo Gacha and Event Gacha packages. Although I have many Legendary maidens, but some rare ones still do not fall out.

random eredeti hozzászólása:

I really recommend testing against various opponents and trying to figure out how to position and reposition your maidens so that you can expose the enemy backline to your DPS. .

Can you please clarify, when you talk about DPS, do you mean "Damage per second"? That is, destroy the mages, marksmans, engineers and supports as quickly as possible?

[random]

Not all maidens ARE available in regular gachas. Heather was in a maiden event a few months back, iirc. Dont gamble too much. Go to your maidens screen, scroll all the way down. If it says "currently not available" on a maiden that you dont own, then she cannot fall out of a gacha. And event gachas KINDA are just a regular gacha (or regular premium? not sure) gacha that can also drop something fancy, from the description.

Yeah, well I just meant, stretch the enemy team, move their frontline to the side by placing some frontline of yours up or down, then expose the backline and drop your (usually ranged) main DPS character in to attack their strategic targets early.
"... to your DPS" just meant "to your main damage dealing maiden".
Thats also one of the reasons people prefer ranged damage dealers. Because they have a better choice which target to attack.
On higher levels, all that is actually irrelevant and people just drop stuff and spam abilities, I think... I am not sure though. Thats basically what I do. Drop Brooke so she hits the relevant enemies in a line and just spam Liberty and Lilith's skills, until all is dead xD

[Sasha]

random eredeti hozzászólása:

Brooke actually looks interesting, before that I preferred Orion because of its ability to Confuse, which helped overcome the resistance of some characters to take damage in principle, such as Lucy and Rose. I can use Brooke or Felicity to destroy the armor that would be a good choice. But then you will need an additional character who can overcome the immunity to the damage of Lucy and Rose (This also applies to some extent to Sasha and Akira.). Who would you recommend?

[random]

If Lucy, Rose or Akira are things you notice during playing in the Arena: Different DPS alltogether? I am always happy to see one of those, since they are beyong useless and so my enemy only has 4 maidens in a def. I assume Lucy on high mastery levels can be somewhat relevant, but I rarely see her.

Brooke can deal SOME damage, which should be enough to dispose of such maidens in the time it takes you to deal with the tankier stuff. The def reduction works over time and amplifies the skill damage of Brookes ability too. Lucy's 15% usually equals something like 2-3 mil hp. Brooke on low cooldown can deal with that, with damage amplicifaction, so long as Liberty is out of the picture. As an alternative, there is Skye, if you have her. She deals more damage with her skill. But brooke really is the staple here. And I dont know if Skye outperforms Felicity. For either of those two: The limited duration of the def reduction is usually a dealbreaker in PvP.

[Sasha]

random eredeti hozzászólása:

I tried to unlock Skye when there was an event, but I got Orion. So I'll have to use Brooke, but thanks for the advice anyway. Can I ask you one last question about Estel's new guardian and whether she deserves attention?