Spirit contract questions

[nmss2]

got a couple of questions :
1) Bear versus monster bear

What are the differences between these two, other than look and size? I have spirit contract-ed two of them but they looked very different. Both are monster bears by description.

2) what is the fastest spirit contract for used in sect map (not world/travel map)? They looked kinda useful for slow inners (turtle).
Bear (Tier 12)= 14.84
Monster Bear (tier10) = 12.4

[Subak]

1) bear/monster bear probably does not matter aside from tier and the bonus from "bear" won't apply until primordial

2) The fastest I have is a T4 monster bear @ 17.83. I would guess a snake one is probably going to see the fastest, but just *guess*.

I've only seen bizarre spirit contract results from the RNG so far. Tier on the contract not really correlating with move speed bonus or even inverted.

I don't think the contract matters for the max qi bonus (GC+ users get a pretty big max qi bonus from having a contract). I've swapped contracts on people and so no change in that so I think the bonus is flat for have/not have spirit contract.

The primordial bonuses might be more tier-driven.

The always ride thing is mostly not good unless you get some really great contract. My guys all move faster not riding them, even though they look cool.

Another issue seems to be a bug where Innate Qi (and I'd guess similar animated 'fireball-like' effects) travel at the move speed of a turtle if you are casting them while riding a contract.

[nmss2]

Thank you, it was informative! How was the tier derived? Based on chance during "spirit contract" or something marked as hidden in the monster attackers as in sect rep(difficulty level)?

I dont have much use for them except for the move speed in sect map. Guess i will keep a lookout for snake monster.

[Subak]

The tiers are tied to 'state' on the monster, which is loosely tied to level of the monster. State is shown somewhere, I think even before you kill it. Something like qi shaping = 1-3, core shaping = 4-6, golden core = 7-9, etc.

[nmss2]

Thanks. That information is useful for the butcher.

[Subak]

Yeah I came across a snake earlier but was camping and didn't have a contract binder with me.

[Subak]

I had it wrong. The tier of the contract does matter for + max qi. But only across tier colors.

But... you can't refine them. You can, it just won't help.

[nmss2]

Wow! Now that you have mentioned about the max qi. The tier 12 bear spirit contract gave my inner from 85k to 107k. That was 25% increase!!!!

[Ghostpants]

Originally posted by nmss2:

Wow! Now that you have mentioned about the max qi. The tier 12 bear spirit contract gave my inner from 85k to 107k. That was 25% increase!!!!

How did you increase your contract to T12?

[Subak]

I don't remember the tiers so much, but it's mostly a matter of finding a bigger bear (primordial spirit bear) I think.

[cowbell]

Get a DG to convert a PS that is almost ready to ascend. It is entirely cultivation level gated.

[Strauss]

Originally posted by nmss2:

2) what is the fastest spirit contract for used in sect map (not world/travel map)? They looked kinda useful for slow inners (turtle).
Bear (Tier 12)= 14.84
Monster Bear (tier10) = 12.4

if you want movement speed, try to get Panda Spirit Contract.
The worst you can get around 30-ish but at average will increase movement speed around 45-ish

[Rogue]

Though it benefits only to primordial spirits, add special bonuses. Otherwise golden core and above, gets max qi boost.

I sit on my slowpoke turtle with my turtle cultivator and shrug off all damage.

If you are still cultivating, a frog is good. Qi sense.

Tiger, bear or wolf for artifact mastery/battle.

Fyi, this info is available via in game help...