Water and Fire element breakthrough rooms

[Janus]

How do you build a room that wont just kill your cultivators?

I only saw crimson fruits and feathers for fire so far and both just heat up the environment to the point where everyone would die. Same thing for stuff like Soulpearls on the water side.

My guess was building a room out of the element material and then adding neutral Qi gathering objects (not sure if there are that many tbh), but im not sure if that allows for decent Qi levels of the element.

Specifically a decent room for earth cultivators is hard right now since they hate wood rooms and i only managed a decent metal room once cause i got like 12 lumia cores.

[OverlordMae]

To balance temperature you can just put opposite element in the other, irrelevant, part of the room to balance it out, as the temperature in the room depends on all the items in it -like a boatload of beast bloods at the far off wall to balance Soul Pearls, or Soul pearls to balance Phoenix Feather.

For earth element break room you would probably need Fire bars(the ones made with beast blood) up close and spirit wood further out(with a sprinkle of jade essence at range 3 if feng shui allows it), with something like soul pearl or Frost Powder(2.5 times stronger temp impact compared to ice crystal bars) on stands somewhere far off.

[Magdaki]

Originally posted by OverlordMae:

To balance temperature you can just put opposite element in the other, irrelevant, part of the room to balance it out, as the temperature in the room depends on all the items in it -like a boatload of beast bloods at the far off wall to balance Soul Pearls, or Soul pearls to balance Phoenix Feather.

For earth element break room you would probably need Fire bars(the ones made with beast blood) up close and spirit wood further out(with a sprinkle of jade essence at range 3 if feng shui allows it), with something like soul pearl or Frost Powder(2.5 times stronger temp impact compared to ice crystal bars) on stands somewhere far off.

What do you mean by "irrelevant" part of the room? Do you mean outside of the element radius?

[OverlordMae]

somewhere still in the room but far off from actual qi gathering formation.

[Janus]

Originally posted by OverlordMae:

To balance temperature you can just put opposite element in the other, irrelevant, part of the room to balance it out, as the temperature in the room depends on all the items in it -like a boatload of beast bloods at the far off wall to balance Soul Pearls, or Soul pearls to balance Phoenix Feather.

For earth element break room you would probably need Fire bars(the ones made with beast blood) up close and spirit wood further out(with a sprinkle of jade essence at range 3 if feng shui allows it), with something like soul pearl or Frost Powder(2.5 times stronger temp impact compared to ice crystal bars) on stands somewhere far off.

Okay, im gonna try that, my rooms tend to be on the small side so i try to avoid mixing different elements so my feng shui isnt messed up. Guess if i build it bigger i can have water in a fire room as long as they dont touch my feng shui objects?

[Magdaki]

Interesting. Thanks! So much to learn.

[OverlordMae]

Originally posted by Janus:

Okay, im gonna try that, my rooms tend to be on the small side so i try to avoid mixing different elements so my feng shui isnt messed up. Guess if i build it bigger i can have water in a fire room as long as they dont touch my feng shui objects?

That is correct. The Feng Shui of the room only depends on its Key furniture components feng shui - so you can have both Fire and Water breakthrough formations in the same room (just make sure their feng shui(range 3) doesnt overlap(so in a way you can use a part of the outer layer of spiritwood for both).

Edit: For refference Range 1 in this game means the original central square, while range 2 means adjecent ones. Prependicular squares are at range 3(and 4).

[Subak]

Yup. And even if they do touch, it's fine in some cases.

I have some stands right against my cultivation diamond holding soul pearls. The diamond has crimson fruit and copper bars around the middle. The outer layers are spirit wood. It works out nice since the pearls go fine right against the wood and also cool the fruit heat.

[Janus]

Originally posted by OverlordMae:

That is correct. The Feng Shui of the room only depends on its Key furniture components feng shui - so you can have both Fire and Water breakthrough formations in the same room (just make sure their feng shui(range 3) doesnt overlap(so in a way you can use a part of the outer layer of spiritwood for both).

Alright, guess that requires further experimentation on my part. This game is still largely a friggin mystery with what i can do and where to get certain stuff.

[Magdaki]

Originally posted by OverlordMae:

Originally posted by Janus:

Okay, im gonna try that, my rooms tend to be on the small side so i try to avoid mixing different elements so my feng shui isnt messed up. Guess if i build it bigger i can have water in a fire room as long as they dont touch my feng shui objects?

That is correct. The Feng Shui of the room only depends on its Key furniture components feng shui - so you can have both Fire and Water breakthrough formations in the same room (just make sure their feng shui(range 3) doesnt overlap(so in a way you can use a part of the outer layer of spiritwood for both).

Edit: For refference Range 1 in this game means the original central square, while range 2 means adjecent ones. Prependicular squares are at range 3(and 4).

That's interesting. Good tip!

[Helios]

Just balance 2 big rooms together and connect them that are my rooms only 3 are connected and also got the relic from the flood dragon https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2329003448

[Magdaki]

Originally posted by OverlordMae:

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This was *very* useful. I've built little "cooling" or "heating" alcoves in my rooms, and it balances the temperature perfectly.

[Infern]

in those rooms I actually do a different method... Considering you can do the "Begetting" you can actually do "Water into Wood into Fire" (For the Fire Room).

Similar to Fire into Stone into Metal then into Water... It's equally as efficient.

[Kain Yusanagi]

Feng Shui only has a range of 2, period; you only need to worry about the tiles immediately surrounding a tile for feng shui, in other words. Qi Gathering is an entirely different beast that just refers to how much Qi an item can gather from the environment, and the tiles that it can reach, and as was already noted, "1" indicates the tile it's on. Note that you can also overlap these Qi Gathering areas far more closely than Helios here has done, with the corner sides actually directly overlapping, provided that the items placed at those ranges match up, because the game uses trigonometry for diagonals, so the range is that of a square placed on a diamond (https://amazing-cultivation-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Qi_Gathering has a diagram showing this).

Also of note is that you can move the QI Cushion, remove an item from an adjecent stand and ban it, and move the cushion back into place, to further add Qi Gathering/feng shui affinity to that central tile.

[Subak]

Ahh... so the item has no place to fall but that spot where the cushion sits. Nice.

[OverlordMae]

Originally posted by kainyusanagi:

Feng Shui only has a range of 2, period; you only need to worry about the tiles immediately surrounding a tile for feng shui, in other words.
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Feng shui has in game range of 3 not 2, meaning 2 tiles to the sides, up and down and one prependicular tile across between the 'arms'.