Body cultivators - lacking?

[Carryonnaire]

I have just gained my first body cultivator. Compared to others, this one seems totally out of place. While normal cultivators are ready to fight once they reach qi shaping stage and gained first artifact (or even without it), this body cultivator, even after few remold upgrades, is totally incapable in combat. The only thing enemy gets damaged is mood, and cultivator just mindlessly jumps all over the screen until proper backup comes.
Also this stamina limit. Once stamina runs out, any further progress stops (queue unloads), compared to normal cultivators.
Am I doing something wrong or is body cultivation just an artificial wheelchair bandaid to law diversity?

[Shad]

BC are much stronger and low requirement compared to lone xiandao.

Normal cultivators cannot fight real enemies without significant investment of inspiration, a large (the bigger the better) library of manuals, excellent gear, pills, talismans. Body cultivators need literally nothing to be functional, and very little to be excellent.

No idea what you mean by "fighting at qi shaping", at that stage a xiandao will die from a sneeze when facing pretty much any enemy due to low qi reserve.

Decently built body cultivators can solo bosses and good BCs can solo sects, and conventional enemies with 500k qi will die from a tap or two of any late incubation stage BC. By contrast, Xiandao need decent formations to fight bosses or sects.

A screenshot would help to work out what you are missing on the BC.

Regarding stamina, there are items that give instant stamina. Spirit dew can be harvested on day 1 from the map. And later you remold organs to massively increase stamina gain.

[Carryonnaire]

I am not sure which part of this need screenshot because my cultivator cannot even scratch wild animals.

[Silence Suzuka]

Originally posted by Carryonnaire:

I am not sure which part of this need screenshot because my cultivator cannot even scratch wild animals.

Check your training list and try to fill the requirement of each secret bodies. Then you need to equip those secret bodies in inventory menu.

So basically BC is turning his own body into a weapon (and shield), you need to refine each body parts to meet the active requirements of secret bodies, and equip the activated secret body parts to attack or defend (One body part can only assign to attack or defend, so you need to make at least 2 of them)

I found an English wiki might be helpful to you. This should give you some idea about how to fight with a bc character.
https://amazing-cultivation-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Physical_Cultivation

[Savok]

If your body cult can't kill everything on the map by himself after a week of remolding then yeah we do need a screenshots to see what's gone wrong because it can be confusing. They're massively overpowered. Are you equipping the secret bodies? Are you tempering the bone/flesh even a little? What are your stats (they need weird ones like crafting)?

The stamina issue solves itself once he's been remolded enough to eat your entire food reserve. What's really annoying is having to babysit them as they remold because you can't set up proper queues. It's always too much or too little.

[Carryonnaire]

Well, honestly, this remolding is hardly even progressing because there is ton of different parts to upgrade, and either I stare into one single piece for hour or I get stamina errors every few seconds if I queue some and leave cultivator alone.
Stats are: 37 battle and qi sense, 14 comprehension, 10 inner sight, 8 artisanry.

[Donut Steel]

It helps to interpret the setting of the story as being one big shared-hallucination between lots of people, where Xiandao cultivators are having imaginary battles and Physical ones are actually acting out in the real-world and the effects can be seen within the delusion-scape.

It does not help therefore to imagine the hallucinating Physical cultivator should be thinking like a Xiandao in terms of how to grow their power.

Meanwhile, the Shendao aren't hallucinating at all but laughing at their friends high on mushrooms whilst telling them nonsense so the others worship them because they think it's real.

[Savok]

Ok, if that's ability rather than level (37 battle makes me think it is) then those stats are beyond horrific. Initially they need weird stats like crafting and medicine to really excel. And yeah there's a ton of parts to upgrade but for your initial secret bodies, you only need to upgrade four for each secret body and you only need two of those to start with. Here's a guide

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfVZ9tvaUFXORqIEG3zOP2O-KYcPlpd0I7aR0Y0SzJI/edit#gid=1798791258

Read the intro and then go to the Start Guide. It's starting from scratch on Tribulation 9 but everything there is still relevant. Mouse over the little arrows for more information.

[Carryonnaire]

This much battle and qi sense is above average in my team. I selected this character because of these high levels.

[Savok]

In a weird twist of fate, qi sense can actually be a bad thing. It's meant to be good, as it boosts penetration and artifact suppression, but artifact suppression can screw you. See what you do is grab one artifact at a time and drain it, except there's usually a bunch more artifacts hitting you while this happens and you're not dodging them. So having it as low as possible is beneficial.

Keep in a body cult is basically an evasion tank. If they're not dodging they're dying in really dangerous situations.

There's five skills to keep in mind.

Crafting - Increases comprehension (more essences from devouring and breathing)
Medicine - Increases inner sight (remold efficiency)
Artisanry - Higher chance of getting rarer tags from using your essences
Battle - Boosts dodge and maybe base attack accuracy? Not sure there.
Qi Sense - Base penetration and suppression

That's kinda the order you want to prioritise too. Essences are your bread and butter, without them you'll never do anything well. As important as dodge is, we can improve that with remolding and you will be. The cap is 95% and that's where you want it at all times.

Also unless you're using a specific mod to even it out, men make make the best body cults. This is because they have an extra... organ, and organs are really good because of their passive benefits. Even a lot of their tags end up being passive.

[Shad]

Originally posted by Carryonnaire:

This much battle and qi sense is above average in my team. I selected this character because of these high levels.

You need to find better people. By the time you get body cultivators agency in one of the towns, and start recruiting people using the building there. Later in the game you also do miracles + pills for outers to raise their base stats.

But even with these low end stats, the body cultivator should be capable of killing anything on the map besides high end invaders. The fact you say you are not damaging even wildlife make me wonder if you actually have the secret bodies equipped. If they are not equipped, they essentially do not exist and your BC has the power of a mortal,

[Grandork]

Lol, Body Cultivators are lacking? They are literally the most overpowered single cultivator in the game. Followed by Divine Cultivators.

[Ginseng]

I think you didn't equip your BC with his attack techniques - the secret body parts you unlock/train.

[Mrvecz]

Do you have snake as physical cultivator ? They seem to lack any secret bodies with the starting physical law unlike other yaoguais who can go full ham in their devastating nature.

[Savok]

None of the furries can fully utilize Primordial Unity. One of the little traps in the game. Frogs are closest in terms of body parts but are still missing fingers so miss out on too much important stuff.

Snakes are the worst body cults you can have for the record, never use them for that. Even Frogs are better. Best are Tigers for their stats and excellent natural secret bodies and Bulls for their four stomachs.

Bulls also gets an amazing attack secret body making them, in my opinion, the best candidate for using Primordial Unity Body with. Their defence will never be perfect but that attack will carry them until you're ready for Chaos Phase and their ability to squeeze as much essence out of as little as possible is a real boon to their progress when you're just starting a new sect.

[botrep]

Originally posted by Savok:

None of the furries can fully utilize Primordial Unity. One of the little traps in the game.

That's wrong. Just because they can't use the thundercatch hands doesn't mean they can't use the law. Thundercatch hand is just between "mixed element arm" and "eagle bear combine form". And if you know what you're doing you can kill Flood Dragon on trib IX with mixed element arm on a yaoguai. And Eagle Bear Combine Form is way stronger than the arms. And you can probably solo the game on immortal (no trib) on a yaoguai with this law. Fully utilise means what that you can't solo sects on trib IX ? That's the only thing that you can't do with with that law and a yaoguai. But it's also the hardest thing to do in the game. The law will carry until you get a better law and make a better yaoguai for just destroying the sects.

I'm talking from experience and i can prove (ex. killing Flood Dragon on trib IX with this law and a yaoguai). Have you tried or are you just spreading misconceptions that you got from other ppl ? Killing Flood Dragon on trib IX is pretty much all you can resonably expect from a starting law on trib IX. And you can do it with just mixed elements arms.

Getting back on topic, i think the op didn't equip the body parts for offense that's why he did almost no damage.