Need breathing room help

[FlyingDeathDog]

Does anyone have a picture of a good room for body cultivator? I'm reading a guide but still unsure of how to arrange the room.

[Normal Paradox]

It depend of which type of body cultivator you want to make. (law used ? yaogui or human ? goal att or def body cult ? etc)
A body cult room can be build either very auspicious or very ominious dependent of the essence you want, same with the qi gathering item element.
That said, for intrisinc life essence you want the animals to be inside a very auspicious room (or else they'll all die).
As for the tomb you can put them in both but it seems to yield more essence inside very ominious room.
I don't know which guide you are following but usually they have room model screen shot already.

[Normal Paradox]

Usually very ominious room tend to get you essence that help you build an "offensive" body cult while very auspicious room offer you more "defensive" essence, that said you'll probably need both, so building two room can't be wrong in any way.

[the money store]

You want a normal cultivator setup that's just all good stuff. High qi gathering bonus benefits the efficiency rate of breathing, but the element doesn't matter. It also doesn't matter how auspicious or ominous it is, animals in the room are fun but they're kinda annoying due to them either dying of heart attacks or breaking qi and turning into demons.

The important part is that breathing has a range of 5, so you have an extra sqaure basically all the way around on a standard 4 wide breathing array. Make sure you have 1-2 filled graves in this 5x5 area so you generate wraith essence, and it's always a good rule of thumb to have a dining table, well and zither/go in the room as well so your body cult doesn't ever need to leave it.

Additionally, the main benefit to a VO cultivation room is that you can stack relics that have +x% to food consumption, when they're in a room where they are incompatible they become the opposite, meaning your body cult needs to eat less food. Stack enough and they won't need to eat at all

[Normal Paradox]

- Animal dying of heart attack is due to very ominious room.
- intrisic life essence from animal are hugely needed to easy lvl up of body parts.
- As for animal you should buy avakened animal, they won't transform into demon.
- element matter since there is elemental essences.
- auspiciousness is important for blessed essences and the counterpart, so only build very auspicious or very ominious room.
- you can also plant tree at 5 range to get germination essences during spring

[Rogue]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vQ7BV9Pyt4TVv56U7fVAJaPYQAvbHzRJ6uyX-mxbE8fPceI9yFd5pT6kuWfOan-5YmYOLBKMnAiia4C/pub#h.o341ip7zn350 , one of the guide stickied on steam forum... Read the body cultivator portion, it has an image of a room.

It also has a link to a spreadsheet of different essences and how to get them. A single room don't cover everything especially for specific body cultivation laws and yaoguai (Yes, yaoguai is different from humans...) race.

Try to get the super parts(Secret Body) first according to the law to level up, so you can unlock molding of your breathing organs and eating organs. This helps a bunch to breathe better and devour higher tier stuff for essences(Don't over do this or you spend a lot of time eating...).

Oh watch your lifespan, so remember to eat lifespan extending stuff BEFORE learning law. Lifespan run outs fast if you enable certain skills that speed up remolding but drains life.

[jazz1541]

DO NOT MAKE VERY OMINOUS BREATHING ROOM
Also if I am not wrong you will lose liberated buff to breathing if you try using 2 rooms, so don't do that.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfVZ9tvaUFXORqIEG3zOP2O-KYcPlpd0I7aR0Y0SzJI/edit#gid=1798791258

Like this guide says:

Very Ominous Room is Very Bad!

It will lower your Body Cultivator's Mood constantly which will decrease Breathing Efficiency

It will also kill any of your normal animals

Getting Cursed Feng Shui Essence (from breathing in very ominous rooms), is NOT WORTH losing Intrinsic Life Essence and Breathing Efficiency for!

You can get Cursed Feng Shui Labels from ANY ESSENCE! In my Guides, I never use any Feng Shui Essence for a reason! b/c we can get the labels from elsewhere at better rates!

[Normal Paradox]

It's obvious that you don't put bed inside the very ominious cult room (i don't put beds in any of my cult room but some guide suggest to do so), also the liberated buff is useless, the time it take to get it at 5 stars you'll already be done breathing (if your room is good enough) and you'll only focus on remolding body parts. Breathing is the easiest and cheapest way to get essences, might as well get the fengshui essences from it as well instead of wasting time and resources.
Well, that was my point of view and how i do thing, do what ever you guys want.

[jazz1541]

Originally posted by Normal Paradox:

It's obvious that you don't put bed inside the very ominious cult room (i don't put beds in any of my cult room but some guide suggest to do so), also the liberated buff is useless, the time it take to get it at 5 stars you'll already be done breathing (if your room is good enough) and you'll only focus on remolding body parts. Breathing is the easiest and cheapest way to get essences, might as well get the fengshui essences from it as well instead of wasting time and resources.
Well, that was my point of view and how i do thing, do what ever you guys want.

Well.. Yeah. If you are referring to my post then I said any very ominous room is bad, bed or no bed makes no difference.

Liberated buff is useful, especially when you are starting and don't have means to get better qi gathering items, granted it will take ~20 days to remove all minuses, but you WILL NEED ALL help to get more essencess that you can get in order to defeat yaogai invasion on day 80, if you are playing with that difficulty enabled. If you are not playing with that then... who cares? It's almost impossible to fail in normal game if you somewhat know what you are doing and how to contain dragon.

My point is that you are just going to handicap yourself with very ominous room. There is absolutely no benefit in having very ominous room since you can get label that cursed/blessed essence gives from ANYTHING.

And yes, if you can afford to get items to devour for essencess then it's way better than breathing, but you are not going to be doing it before killing dragon on tribulation ix.
You also might be stuck with just spirit wood as qi gathering item, so there is that.

[Normal Paradox]

You are so confusing.

First of all ominious breathing room are totaly fine.

Then you start to speak about trib 9 body cult strat (which you probably never tried in vanilla or else you would say such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) when it's not the subject.

You say that during that trib 9 breathing period you need all the help needed but refuse to build an ominous room when you precisely need cursed fengshui essence to get enough dps to hope survive the primodial hunt (which in vanilla is a nightmare ).

Then you return to your ranting about very ominous room while saying that you can't find cursed or blessed fengshui essences : your quote :
"My point is that you are just going to handicap yourself with very ominous room. There is absolutely no benefit in having very ominous room since you can get label that cursed/blessed essence gives from ANYTHING." If you can't find it anywhere then breath in an ominous breathing room dummy.

Finaly you explain that you are not going to devour item before killing the flood dragon on trib 9 which is insanely ignorant, you clearly never tried it because YOU HAVE TO DEVOUR ITEM if you want to have a spec a chance to succeed it. Your first body cult in trib 9 is just here to make you pass (if you luck it) the 200 first days, feeding him the flood dragon meat is pure waste. It's to be reserved for your finals body cult which should be a build in yaogui or a human with the beserker law.

So please stop confusing new player with half assed infos.

[jazz1541]

Originally posted by Normal Paradox:

You are so confusing.

First of all ominious breathing room are totaly fine.

Then you start to speak about trib 9 body cult strat (which you probably never tried in vanilla or else you would say such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) when it's not the subject.

You say that during that trib 9 breathing period you need all the help needed but refuse to build an ominous room when you precisely need cursed fengshui essence to get enough dps to hope survive the primodial hunt (which in vanilla is a nightmare ).

Then you return to your ranting about very ominous room while saying that you can't find cursed or blessed fengshui essences : your quote :
"My point is that you are just going to handicap yourself with very ominous room. There is absolutely no benefit in having very ominous room since you can get label that cursed/blessed essence gives from ANYTHING." If you can't find it anywhere then breath in an ominous breathing room dummy.

Finaly you explain that you are not going to devour item before killing the flood dragon on trib 9 which is insanely ignorant, you clearly never tried it because YOU HAVE TO DEVOUR ITEM if you want to have a spec a chance to succeed it. Your first body cult in trib 9 is just here to make you pass (if you luck it) the 200 first days, feeding him the flood dragon meat is pure waste. It's to be reserved for your finals body cult which should be a build in yaogui or a human with the beserker law.

So please stop confusing new player with half assed infos.

I am trying to be polite here, but you are making it very hard for me.
Let's go step by step so you won't be confused:
1. Very ominous rooms are are ♥♥♥♥. They lower your mood which impacts mental which impacts breathing efficiency. And they will kill your animals that you want to have to increase your chance at intristic life essence. (someone mentioned you will get more wraith essence in ominous room, but most likely it will be one of the essences that you have too much even without it)

2 Cursed fengshui esence is ♥♥♥♥, you would know it if you played as body cultivator on anything higher than normal. You can get labels they give from anything else, hence you will most likely get them when remolding with intristic life/wraith/solar/lunar essencess.
Which also means that:

Originally posted by Normal Paradox:

You say that during that trib 9 breathing period you need all the help needed but refuse to build an ominous room when you precisely need cursed fengshui essence to get enough dps to hope survive the primodial hunt (which in vanilla is a nightmare ).

Is just false and this:

Originally posted by Normal Paradox:

If you can't find it anywhere then breath in an ominous breathing room dummy.

Is handicapping yourself by decreasing breathing efficiency.

3. Most of what said is about early-mid game where you are limited on your resources and cultivators to do explorations, which means you will be rather limited with your resources. And this:

Originally posted by Normal Paradox:

Breathing is the easiest and cheapest way to get essences, might as well get the fengshui essences from it as well instead of wasting time and resources.

is precise reason why i mentioned devouring at all. Because devouring is faster way to obtain some essencess but it's way more expensive and it's for late game. Hence the remark about not being able to devour good things before dragon (like spirit roots/boss parts/origins).
Which is also why i mentioned that anything that increases your breathing efficiency is good thing.


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Originally posted by Normal Paradox:

Finaly you explain that you are not going to devour item before killing the flood dragon on trib 9 which is insanely ignorant, you clearly never tried it because YOU HAVE TO DEVOUR ITEM if you want to have a spec a chance to succeed it. Your first body cult in trib 9 is just here to make you pass (if you luck it) the 200 first days, feeding him the flood dragon meat is pure waste. It's to be reserved for your finals body cult which should be a build in yaogui or a human with the beserker law.

This is only part that I regret doing. I should have said that you won't be devouring good items before 120-200 in game days. Because you will have better use for them and there won't be a lot of them.

Don't treat it as personal attack, it's not meant to be. If my understanding is wrong I would be glad if you can correct it and provide some examples for better way of doing it. But don't go spreading false information that cursed essence is any good when you can get labels from literally anything.

[Normal Paradox]

Listen, i already said you had to build at least two room for breathing body cult and animal should be in the very auspicious.
Very omnious breathing room also help build your "furious" ability that is why you need to have a room that will leave bad memories to your cultivator (you aren't supposed to sleep in it tho, already said that too). The mental state is not a problem since you are not suppose to spend you whole time breathing inside. I never had any issue with my body cult mental state, just cultivate is peepee to the max, don't be lazy and you'll be fine.
Also wraith essence are more easily breathed inside ominous room that's why the tombs are usualy put inside that room, a room that can also be used at the start for soul inquiry and anguish soul drop.
Their is absolutly no reason not to build one.
Now, if you want to make only one room, go for it.

Ps : the subject wasn't trib 9, just a random run where you can afford to build at least two room.