Trying to understand body cultivation

[VoiD]

So I just got a disciple to try it out, made a very omnious room with everything it needs to survive in there.

From what I understood I just have to set up a breathing schedule, make sure it includes mid day and mid night, and leave it there?

As for remolding, I don't quite understand, should I try to buff both my arms and my legs and then somehow my special body thingies will activate?
A tiny guide mentions I shouldn't get the bad labels, but it doesn't say what is a bad label, so I was just getting white stuff, and some blue one that I think came from the death essence I tried to use as it was mentioned that the dead stuff is really good, also metal, but I have no lumine cores, it's all just spiritwood.

[Kasa]

These should help:

https://docs.google.com/document/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vQ7BV9Pyt4TVv56U7fVAJaPYQAvbHzRJ6uyX-mxbE8fPceI9yFd5pT6kuWfOan-5YmYOLBKMnAiia4C/pub#h.o341ip7zn350

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfVZ9tvaUFXORqIEG3zOP2O-KYcPlpd0I7aR0Y0SzJI/edit#gid=1389329657

[Foefaller]

When you open the remold menu, there should be tabs at the top that say something like "Body/Mixed Element Fist (L)/Mixed Element Fist(R)" and so on.

The ones labeled something other than "Body" are the secret body techniques for your Physical cultivation law. When you open one of their tabs, the list of parts to shape should be filtered. These are the body parts associated with that technique, and the ones you need yo mold to advance. The actual molds required are in the bottom left, and you can click the Roman Numberals above them to see what future ranks of the technique will require so you can plan ahead.

Starting off, you should more or less focus entirely on getting those techniques as high as you can, and/or work on what parts you can remold for the next rank(s) until you unlock new techniques to work on or the ability to remold the other parts required.

As for what the "bad" choices are, I suspect they mean ones that have a negative stat and/or sound Body Horror-ish in their description. I've also tried to avoid elemental molds and others of the same quality unless it's what I need for a technique. In any case, you do want to make sure you do NOT use up all the slots on a part (which is 6 unique types of buff) until you're 100% sure of what you want there to reduce the odds of finding yourself forced to reset a part that might have a super-rare mold on it because a new technique requires molds it didn't have and you couldn't fit.

[BrownianMotion]

One thing to note for min maxing, is that you either equip the body technique for offense or defense (or effect). So dont try to get both offensive and defensive stuff on the same body part, unless its use for other body technique.

Getting white label is always good, since it stacks to 999 for flesh and bone. You probably wont hit this limit unless min maxing. There are only so many label slots, 6 initially but you can increase this to 7 via upgrading the heart organ which increase remold cap.

[ElderKai]

just pick the labels for the desired secret body and if you don't have rare essences use Wraith Breath for remold

[Exothermically Eclectic]

Publicado originalmente por Foefaller:

and/or sound Body Horror-ish in their description.

Bah, what's the point of remolding your weak flesh into a walking blasphemy against the heavens that regularly destroys their attempts at tribulations if you're not going to have fun with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gIMZ0WyY88

[Halfshell]

You basically just refine body parts to use abilities secret arts. They scale massively with higher refinement. Early on use life essence for faster breakthroughs until you can refine your stomach and other organs. Getting rare essences is going to vary by what it is so just experiment. You'll want alot of cushions on the map. I'd save any rare essences incase later secret arts need them.

[VoiD]

Thanks, I'm starting to get it a bit

[VoiD]

Publicado originalmente por Halfshell cat:

You basically just refine body parts to use abilities. They scale massively with higher refinement. Early on use life essence for faster breakthroughs until you can refine your stomach and other organs. Getting rare essences is going to vary by what it is so just experiment. You'll want alot of cushions on the map. I'd save any rare essences incase later abilities need them.

Do you mean a no-essence remold?
and should I pick anything but white from those?

[Halfshell]

Its just because life essence is so plentiful and gives quick growth. Just eat ~80 herbs and you have almost enough to reach the 3rd stage in Primordial Unity after a few days for instance. Only thing I know to avoid are elemental bonuses, such as fire or wood blessing because they cannot coexist with each.other. Because certain secret arts require a specific element. Its not a big deal to reset the body part anyway so don't worry too much about picking the wrong thing. Life essence also gives extra tempering if you want to max out a body part but thats for later.

Edit: Make fasting, inedia or other no-hunger pills and body cultivators eat them like candy. I'd actually prefer they didn't.. but it means you never have to worry about immortal essence.

Well the idea is to rush the ability to improve your stamina gain, breathing rate and refining speed. I haven't gotten super far with a body Law myself but thats a pretty quick way to get it rolling.

[VoiD]

Publicado originalmente por Halfshell cat:

Its just because life essence is so plentiful and gives quick growth. Just eat ~80 herbs and you have almost enough to reach the 3rd stage in Primordial Unity after a few days for instance. Only thing I know to avoid are elemental bonuses, such as fire or wood blessing because they cannot coexist with each.other. Because certain secret arts require a specific element. Its not a big deal to reset the body part anyway so don't worry too much about picking the wrong thing. Life essence also gives extra tempering if you want to max out a body part but thats for later.

Edit: Make fasting, inedia or other no-hunger pills and body cultivators eat them like candy. I'd actually prefer they didn't.. but it means you never have to worry about immortal essence.

Well the idea is to rush the ability to improve your stamina gain, breathing rate and refining speed. I haven't gotten super far with a body Law myself but thats a pretty quick way to get it rolling.

Been playing around with it, think I'm starting to understand.

But I read that most bonuses only affect a secret body.
For instance: The basic law only affects parts of both arms and legs.

Does that mean that refining anything else is completely useless? Should I use essences anywhere else?

[BrownianMotion]

Organs definitely, but all the other parts still affect your overall physical cultivator slightly.
The wording "physical cultivator" means its a global effect that takes place regardless if that secret body is equipped or not. Whereas the wording "secret body" will only have those bonus applied onto the secret body.

Tempered Flesh, Tempered bones all applied a slight global physical strength affect, but of course very very little. Organs have the best global effect, like heart increases remolding speed and cap, stomach increases the max tier for devour, etc. So you should train up your organs regardless if a secret body needs them or not. And of course improving your phallus makes you a happier guy.

[VoiD]

Alright thanks, now to wait and see if the daemonians send me some guys so I can steal some yaoguai laws too

[VoiD]

Damn, now I got to the second level and I got more secret bodies, and I just realized certain body parts can be part of multiple bodies.

I'm still using the basic law, is it safe to assume doing offensive stuff on the arms is a good idea? Because a new body seems to want to make these arms defensive now, and there is some wood element thing supposed to use my feet for defense.

It's a lot more complicated than I thought @_@

Also, I'm at 0 stamina and can't progress further =/

[BrownianMotion]

First try to imagine what slot you want that secret body to become: offense, defense, or effect.
This is because you can only use that secret body for one function.

Let say you have leveled up mixed element-arm dramatically, then it will have a decently high base offense and defense values due to all the stacks of tempered flesh and bone. At this point you only want to stack certain labels depending on whether you want to use that part offensively or defensively. Since endurance or defense wont really matter if you are using that part to attack.
Maybe it might affect how much dmg will be taken if you get hit in that area, but i haven't test this out yet.

Also certain labels will be exclusive to certain essence. For instance aqualuna, ignis, nimbus, illusision are the top tier essence that can produce unique orange label. In addition to that, i think if you pick the regular orange label Ancestral Throwback then you wont be able to pick any of the other orange label on that body part even if you refine it with those other essence. But i might be mistaken

As for stamina, you can either just breath all day. Or eat stamina items like bear gall, red ginseng, pig demon meat (npc sects sometimes sell this, it gives 100 stamina per so that is pretty good).

[VoiD]

Thanks, no demon pigs, but I did find some bear stuff.

Too bad the guide doesn't specify what gives +stam and there are no bears left alive
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XyRlJOMhg7DKnj6XA7jCW43Al2_6QzfIKURIJVQaPeg/edit#
Breathing is giving like 10 a day, maybe less @_@