Trying to understand body cultivation

[VoiD]

So I just got a disciple to try it out, made a very omnious room with everything it needs to survive in there.

From what I understood I just have to set up a breathing schedule, make sure it includes mid day and mid night, and leave it there?

As for remolding, I don't quite understand, should I try to buff both my arms and my legs and then somehow my special body thingies will activate?
A tiny guide mentions I shouldn't get the bad labels, but it doesn't say what is a bad label, so I was just getting white stuff, and some blue one that I think came from the death essence I tried to use as it was mentioned that the dead stuff is really good, also metal, but I have no lumine cores, it's all just spiritwood.

[insane]

Ok, so alle the stuff told in this thread is true BUT there is a massive problem no one talked about.

True Qi Regeneration.

All those white options you get while remolding inrease True Qi use and some other options do as well.

A body cultivator doing 500.000dmg a hit (without that 300%-400% Qi Barrier penetration buff) will have so much True Qi use that he is at 0 Qi outside of battles and needs the first 30 seconds of any battle to regenerate some Qi with the enhanced Qi regen during battles.
That makes any tribulation unsurvivable as they start before he gets his qi up.

The MOST important thing about ANY body cultivator is to keep True Qi Regeneration higher than True Qi use.

The only way i have found to do this is to make "secret bodies" for the lowest line in your gear screen (always active) that specifically raise Qi Recovery, and if you want your cultivator to be powerful (duh) use as few of the white options while remolding as possible.

[Hyrael]

Originally posted by insane:

Ok, so alle the stuff told in this thread is true BUT there is a massive problem no one talked about.

True Qi Regeneration.

All those white options you get while remolding inrease True Qi use and some other options do as well.

A body cultivator doing 500.000dmg a hit (without that 300%-400% Qi Barrier penetration buff) will have so much True Qi use that he is at 0 Qi outside of battles and needs the first 30 seconds of any battle to regenerate some Qi with the enhanced Qi regen during battles.
That makes any tribulation unsurvivable as they start before he gets his qi up.

The MOST important thing about ANY body cultivator is to keep True Qi Regeneration higher than True Qi use.

The only way i have found to do this is to make "secret bodies" for the lowest line in your gear screen (always active) that specifically raise Qi Recovery, and if you want your cultivator to be powerful (duh) use as few of the white options while remolding as possible.

To add to this, on your spare organ slots you should get Void Breath (blue and purple variant) from Blessed Feng Shui and Wraith Breath, Smooth Function from Withering Essence and Water Blessing from Water Essence that all give true qi regen. There may be more but those are the only ones I've found so far and are vital if you're running high level Eagle Bear Form etc

[Hyrael]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Thanks, no demon pigs, but I did find some bear stuff.

Too bad the guide doesn't specify what gives +stam and there are no bears left alive
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XyRlJOMhg7DKnj6XA7jCW43Al2_6QzfIKURIJVQaPeg/edit#
Breathing is giving like 10 a day, maybe less @_@

Level up Heaven and Earth Furnace and use that on the Effects equipment row while doing breathing (not sure if it works when remoulding) to build stamina. Another easy way for stamina is just grow grass on spirit soil and use remove to cut it, you'll get spirit dew which you can eat for easy stamina, even on a Body Cultivator

[Rordar]

How do you counter tribulations? My body cultivator instantly died after I had him for a very long time....
He wasn't even able to leave the sect anymore because some message kept popping up. :(

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Hyrael:

Originally posted by VoiD:

Thanks, no demon pigs, but I did find some bear stuff.

Too bad the guide doesn't specify what gives +stam and there are no bears left alive
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XyRlJOMhg7DKnj6XA7jCW43Al2_6QzfIKURIJVQaPeg/edit#
Breathing is giving like 10 a day, maybe less @_@

Level up Heaven and Earth Furnace and use that on the Effects equipment row while doing breathing (not sure if it works when remoulding) to build stamina. Another easy way for stamina is just grow grass on spirit soil and use remove to cut it, you'll get spirit dew which you can eat for easy stamina, even on a Body Cultivator

I have like 3 tiles of spirit soil on my map

[Hyrael]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Originally posted by Hyrael:

Level up Heaven and Earth Furnace and use that on the Effects equipment row while doing breathing (not sure if it works when remoulding) to build stamina. Another easy way for stamina is just grow grass on spirit soil and use remove to cut it, you'll get spirit dew which you can eat for easy stamina, even on a Body Cultivator

I have like 3 tiles of spirit soil on my map

You're gonna have a bad time with that map if you play playing the long term. You can get spirit seeds that make spirit soil, but that takes something like 3 years to spread lol. One of the pets, the fox I think, can create spirit soil when its fully grown.

[ahnkra]

Breathing doesnt give any stamina, regular stamina regen comes from digesting food, as your food bar goes down, it ever ever so slowly regens stamina. Without any kind of buffs, i believe it is 12 points a day. One of the reasons why when you level you get a hunger bonus, because the bigger your food bar, the more you eat, the more stamina you regen. SO what ever you do, dont eat dried meat! not only does it give a mood debuff, it will totally trash your mental stability (no idea why on that one) and it slows down your food digestion, which in turns slows down base stamina regen.

[BrownianMotion]

One reason that awakened beast yaoguai are strong physicals is because you can min max those physical body thoughts in that minigame. There are some thoughts that improve qi recovery, add body slots (climbing, hearing loudness, watching boulders) and various global chances.

Also different yaoguai have 2 extra secret body specific to their race (mostly effect bodies i think). Some of which could help with various things like true qi recovery or boost global power, etc.

[Halfshell]

Originally posted by Hyrael:

Originally posted by VoiD:

I have like 3 tiles of spirit soil on my map

You're gonna have a bad time with that map if you play playing the long term. You can get spirit seeds that make spirit soil, but that takes something like 3 years to spread lol. One of the pets, the fox I think, can create spirit soil when its fully grown.

Early on just grow tons of ginseng, liangzhi. Every 50 or so grown gives one red/ purple that gives stamina. Not the best source but its reliable. Assuming you have fertile soil to spare anyway.

[VoiD]

Which bonuses apply in the support slot? All of them?
For instance, if I get the Five Element Fists which uses both hands and a bunch of organs, and I stack all of those +qi on every organ, will I get all of that regen and even the SP penetration bonuses on my other attacks?

[Halfshell]

I think regen is global, at least I refined most my organs with one of the Qi regen bonuses and I have nothing using organs equipped currently but still notice alot of regen. At least I believe the wording will be different between something that only applies to secret arts that use that body part and global affects. For support secret arts, you have to equip them in the support slot.

[BrownianMotion]

The wording "secret body" means effect is only applied on that secret body (thus the secret body needs to be equipped). "physical cultivator" is when the effect is global and that body part does not need to be part of some equipped secret body.

[VoiD]

Thanks, but I still don't really get what the 3rd slot does, I know the first is used to attack, the 2nd for defense, what about the last?

If I add atq or penetration bonuses and equip on the third, does it count?

[Halfshell]

The 3rd slot is "always active" and basically passive. It mentions what it is in the help for body cultivators in more detail.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Halfshell cat:

The 3rd slot is "always active" and basically passive. It mentions what it is in the help for body cultivators in more detail.

I see, thanks, I might place my basic arm in there then, I leveled it up for raw power with basic stats, it's quite strong and I got the basic yellow label as well, so it has just as much on offense and defense, might turn out to be useful overall