I feel bad for natal

[Chiki]

She just wanted to be with aster like his wives are but not only did she not muster up the courage to confess she has little to no chance with him now.
He believes that natal hates him unlike any other woman he has even met,She got corrupted by the Adan's blood and now she is an addict that can't help but subject people to her hardcore tendencies,and aster has all the wives he could possibly get now the he is a zero knight so he doesn't even have any room for her.

To think she would be among them if she told him that she liked him atleast once T_T

[fllthdcrb]

Yeah, that is sad. And Millet had to f--- it up toward the end. If not for that, maybe it could have worked out after all. It would have meant Croix would be left out, though.

[Chiki]

no if she had confessed during or before the event where he got the vibe she could have helped him and towa wouldn't have to have lost her innocence which could mean towa would have been left out actually.
problem with that is if towa didn't test out the product erimo wouldn't be in either though

[fllthdcrb]

Hmm. Well, Aster would have been one short, in that case. Who else could have filled that last slot?

[persocom01]

imo the reason she was meant to be left out is that she's actually combat capable. The game is meant for you to only have 4 combat capable wives and Natal being a thousand knight, would mean we would have a 5th combat capable companion late in the game.

and yes, I absolutely wish she were a wife instead of certain other characters, but I think she was never written to be wifeable to begin with.

[Chiki]

but she seemed really torn that she couldn't be with aster, it looks like the adan's blood was driving her desire to have him, that means her desire to have aster was strongest along with her pride that kept her from being with him.
so her mind made a compromise with the 2 by making her want aster as a pet rather than as a lover since her pride would never allow her to be that honest allowing her to become what she became.
when she got beaten by aster though her love seemed to grow stong enough to beat pride since when she had been broken her strongest desire wasn't her pride but her love for her Dear aka aster.
I imagine what persocom said is true and that the plot actually drove her away because she was able to fight,considering he never said aster's name during the session but she was clearly thinking of aster.
If she did aster likely wouldn't be able to take croix as casually as he did and keep his character like usual.

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by sshadowthekid:

problem with that is if towa didn't test out the product erimo wouldn't be in either though

Actually, I don't think that's necessarily the case. It's acknowledged they both had feelings for Aster and he for them for a while. That thing of illegally using Towa's picture just forced the issue in their cases. I think that with Natal as #8, Towa, Erimo, and Croix would be contenders for those last two slots, regardless of Towa making her donation or not. Natal could only make the donation under narrow circumstances; if she married him before that came up, obviously she'd no longer be able to.

Originally posted by persocom01:

imo the reason she was meant to be left out is that she's actually combat capable. The game is meant for you to only have 4 combat capable wives and Natal being a thousand knight, would mean we would have a 5th combat capable companion late in the game.

That's an excellent point I hadn't thought of. It would have been weird to have another fighter in the harem with no room for her in the party according to the design.

[Pay Child Suport]

It's just a question of who's gonna take the last slot, Croix or Natal. seriously though? they both don't deserve the last slot. And no, just because she wants aster doesn't mean she should. I mean boo hoo hoo cry me a river. I like a certain age group of girls. woe is me when I can't get them due to certain restrictions right?

[Bob of Mage]

It's stated that while Zero Knight is the highest rank, there are ways to gain more wife slots. So Natal could join the family at a later date. The bigger roadblock is that in the end Aster is off exploring other chunks of the world, while Natal is staying in her homeland trying to put her life back together. If they both reappear in a future game there is a good chance they could get together.

It's also too bad that every scene with Natal is some form of rape, with the mildest one showing her getting brainwashed while drugged with Adan's Blood. It's even worse because she has so many scenes too. I think she is on par with some of the wives. And all of those scenes deal with her being the victim of some sort. Even went she finally comes clean with Aster about her feelings, she still lucks out due to him not having space for a new wife.

[Chiki]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

It's just a question of who's gonna take the last slot, Croix or Natal. seriously though? they both don't deserve the last slot. And no, just because she wants aster doesn't mean she should. I mean boo hoo hoo cry me a river. I like a certain age group of girls. woe is me when I can't get them due to certain restrictions right?

Well i don't think natal is that old maybe not even 20 yet i think croix likely is though
well either way you likely aren't going to find any more gurigura like girls.

[Pay Child Suport]

Originally posted by sshadowthekid:

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

It's just a question of who's gonna take the last slot, Croix or Natal. seriously though? they both don't deserve the last slot. And no, just because she wants aster doesn't mean she should. I mean boo hoo hoo cry me a river. I like a certain age group of girls. woe is me when I can't get them due to certain restrictions right?

Well i don't think natal is that old maybe not even 20 yet i think croix likely is though
well either way you likely aren't going to find any more gurigura like girls.

that's not what I mean at all. let's see... Tia's younger sis or heck even Colpis of all people deserves the last slot more than both Croix or Natal. the former two is far more tragic than the latter two. hell I'd prefer Ophelia over those two any day even though Ophelia is supposed to be broken inside in the original Hamlet. her being wife material would just weird out the source material.

[Chiki]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

Originally posted by sshadowthekid:

Well i don't think natal is that old maybe not even 20 yet i think croix likely is though
well either way you likely aren't going to find any more gurigura like girls.

that's not what I mean at all. let's see... Tia's younger sis or heck even Colpis of all people deserves the last slot more than both Croix or Natal. the former two is far more tragic than the latter two. hell I'd prefer Ophelia over those two any day even though Ophelia is supposed to be broken inside in the original Hamlet. her being wife material would just weird out the source material.

I thought ophelia was going to join the circle as well and was disappointed when she didn't tio's sister is already as in the circle as she can be since she is a ghost and colpis can't because she is an outlaw and is a big part of the outlaw town for the player as she is the only one we know there.
Tbh if not natal i would probably want the dragon lady.

[Pay Child Suport]

Tbh if not natal i would probably want the dragon lady.

you mean Qu? if its not obvious to you enough, she's rebelling against the whole black ring system it's just simply impossible for her to be in aster's harem

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

Tia's younger sis or heck even Colpis

I'd be okay with either/both of them. But sadly, neither is a possibility, for the obvious reasons sshadowthekid stated. At least Tilt was able to get around the rings in a way.

[Chiki]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

Tbh if not natal i would probably want the dragon lady.

you mean Qu? if its not obvious to you enough, she's rebelling against the whole black ring system it's just simply impossible for her to be in aster's harem

No not qu the dark skinned dragon lady

[Bob of Mage]

Originally posted by sshadowthekid:

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

you mean Qu? if its not obvious to you enough, she's rebelling against the whole black ring system it's just simply impossible for her to be in aster's harem

No not qu the dark skinned dragon lady

You mean Millet, the person that Aster ends up raping more then once (under QU's orders, but still)? It wouldn't really be Aster's style to have a wife that was forced to marry him (she clearly dislikes him quite a bit).

Really the bigger issue is the whole damn ring system which heavily limits causal sex. It's kind of interesting when you think about the fact that a game like this makes such a big deal about who can have sex with who. In most other titles the MC would be doing anything that moves, not having to wait a long ways in to the story to even do women like Aster's sisters, who could barely hold off forcing themselves on him.