Ship Operations skills

[GlassDeviant]

Once you qualify for a ship, is there any benefit to training its related Ship Operations skill higher? That is...beyond any requirement to access the next "size" of ship.

So let's say I am in an RDE-1 Destroyer, which requires IIRC Destroyer Ship Operation 1 or 2. I also need Destroyer Ship Operation 3 in order to learn Battlecruiser Ship Operation. Is there any benefit from training Destroyer Ship Operation higher than 3?

[momoguru]

i have plans for this. currently there is no bonus to leveling past the requirements for the next ship class in line.

[GlassDeviant]

Thanks. Can't wait to see what you have planned.

[TK_Over50]

Are there any new developments in raising ship skill level, as I have the Dreadnought Ship Operator at skill level 10, but it still says operation skill level 1. Or, is it still useless to level it past being able to pilot it? That took quite a few turns in the kill zones to get those skill points.

[Daering]

There is still no bonus from skills, but when it will be added is for Momo to tell.

[TheDiaz]

Originally posted by MaleOver30:

Are there any new developments in raising ship skill level, as I have the Dreadnought Ship Operator at skill level 10, but it still says operation skill level 1. Or, is it still useless to level it past being able to pilot it? That took quite a few turns in the kill zones to get those skill points.

Some ships, though, require certain level.

[Commanderm]

Originally posted by MaleOver30:

Are there any new developments in raising ship skill level, as I have the Dreadnought Ship Operator at skill level 10, but it still says operation skill level 1. Or, is it still useless to level it past being able to pilot it? That took quite a few turns in the kill zones to get those skill points.

same issue tho with Mining barge Used some cheat mods to train my lvl to max for Mining op and can't seem to fly the Mining Carrier say skill need to be lvl 3 yet i am lvl 10.

guess it still a work in-progress issue.

[Daering]

Originally posted by Commanderm:

Originally posted by MaleOver30:

Are there any new developments in raising ship skill level, as I have the Dreadnought Ship Operator at skill level 10, but it still says operation skill level 1. Or, is it still useless to level it past being able to pilot it? That took quite a few turns in the kill zones to get those skill points.

same issue tho with Mining barge Used some cheat mods to train my lvl to max for Mining op and can't seem to fly the Mining Carrier say skill need to be lvl 3 yet i am lvl 10.

guess it still a work in-progress issue.

What i understand here is you train your Mining Operation to lvl 10, but this is quite different from the skill required to fly that ship. At least thats how your post sounds.

[Commanderm]

Originally posted by Daering:

Originally posted by Commanderm:

same issue tho with Mining barge Used some cheat mods to train my lvl to max for Mining op and can't seem to fly the Mining Carrier say skill need to be lvl 3 yet i am lvl 10.

guess it still a work in-progress issue.

What i understand here is you train your Mining Operation to lvl 10, but this is quite different from the skill required to fly that ship.

Mining Barge Ship Operation lvl 3, is the skill i need to fly it going by the shipyard and my lvl in that skill is 10, some reason it not working, and a do have the other skill to use the tools.

i am an old school EVE Online players so i take note of what skill i need and not in order to fly that ship and generally i over lvl that skill for bonus, my guess is you need to be exactly on the skill in order to fly it, going over said skill makes the game think it under lvl/not trained in it.

going to reset my skills to test this tho.

[Commanderm]

needed to start a fresh game just to test it but even when it at lvl 3 it wont let me fly it, i did notice a Pilot skill that Blank but ships skills is only skills listed as requirement, and not seeing Pilot skills in starting system.

[Daering]

Originally posted by Commanderm:

Originally posted by Daering:

What i understand here is you train your Mining Operation to lvl 10, but this is quite different from the skill required to fly that ship.

Mining Barge Ship Operation lvl 3, is the skill i need to fly it going by the shipyard and my lvl in that skill is 10, some reason it not working, and a do have the other skill to use the tools.

i am an old school EVE Online players so i take note of what skill i need and not in order to fly that ship and generally i over lvl that skill for bonus, my guess is you need to be exactly on the skill in order to fly it, going over said skill makes the game think it under lvl/not trained in it.

going to reset my skills to test this tho.

i am quite positive there is a mistake somewhere on your side.

First, there is no such skill Mining Barge Ship Operation in the base game. There are two possibilities i can think of because of that:
* either you downloaded a mod (quite outdated at that) that introduced a new ship class and this results in some miss mash in your game
* or you misread the Miner Basic Operation skill, which is the skill needed to operate mining lasers with the skill, needed to operate the ship.

I somehow can't believe you misread the skill, so it is most likely the first guess.

Also, there is a single ship named Mining Carrier in the base game and that is ECA-1 Mining Carrier and it requires Carrier lvl 1 skill, not 3 lvl.

So... i guess this needs some more clarification whats wrong, but at this point i am not convinced the issue is with the game itself.

*edit - maybe some screenshots from the Shipyard and the Pilot panel will tell us more

[Commanderm]

Originally posted by Daering:

Originally posted by Commanderm:

Mining Barge Ship Operation lvl 3, is the skill i need to fly it going by the shipyard and my lvl in that skill is 10, some reason it not working, and a do have the other skill to use the tools.

i am an old school EVE Online players so i take note of what skill i need and not in order to fly that ship and generally i over lvl that skill for bonus, my guess is you need to be exactly on the skill in order to fly it, going over said skill makes the game think it under lvl/not trained in it.

going to reset my skills to test this tho.

i am quite positive there is a mistake somewhere on your side.

First, there is no such skill Mining Barge Ship Operation in the base game. There are two possibilities i can think of because of that:
* either you downloaded a mod (quite outdated at that) that introduced a new ship class and this results in some miss mash in your game
* or you misread the Miner Basic Operation skill, which is the skill needed to operate mining lasers with the skill, needed to operate the ship.

I somehow can't believe you misread the skill, so it is most likely the first guess.

Also, there is a single ship named Mining Carrier in the base game and that is ECA-1 Mining Carrier and it requires Carrier lvl 1 skill, not 3 lvl.

So... i guess this needs some more clarification whats wrong, but at this point i am not convinced the issue is with the game itself.

*edit - maybe some screenshots from the Shipyard and the Pilot panel will tell us more

Yea first part, honestly Surprised their no Mining Barge Operation skill since it seems like it be a part of the game maybe in a future update then.

the mod that has issue is astrox extended that added that skill but it not bean updated since 2019 going to test out the astrox extended redux of it after making sure base game working with cheat mod see if it works then.

plus Carrier was LMB-3 mining carrier by Borecraft likely added by astrox extended so removing that mod completely at least til i patch it to work with recent build of game.

[Commanderm]

also i got 2 of your ship mods as well only noticed yesterday before bed.

[Daering]

Ok, couple of notes - Astrox Extended is heavily outdated, there is huge, huge chance using it to introduce many errors and issues visible and hidden and this save will not be compatible in any vanilla game even if you remove Astrox Extended. Keep that in mind.

Also, keep in mind that not every ship mod is up to date with the current build. Using just ship mods even if they are not up to date is still safer than using mods that deals with database like Astrox Extended.

It's up to you to play your game the way you like, but now you have more info to help you make informed decision.

[Commanderm]

Originally posted by Daering:

Ok, couple of notes - Astrox Extended is heavily outdated, there is huge, huge chance using it to introduce many errors and issues visible and hidden and this save will not be compatible in any vanilla game even if you remove Astrox Extended. Keep that in mind.

Also, keep in mind that not every ship mod is up to date with the current build. Using just ship mods even if they are not up to date is still safer than using mods that deals with database like Astrox Extended.

It's up to you to play your game the way you like, but now you have more info to help you make informed decision.

it ok got rid of Astrox extended even the redux was having same issues testing today, just playing with your mods and some small stuff your resource mods rarity and resources and drones along with 3 ship mods void vanguard Orca ship and your 1.

i may expand into eXperimental but for now just going to play using those for now, looking forward when Titans get added to that 1.

[Daering]

Titans may be postponed in eX 1.0 because I work on 2.0 now